DeSean Jackson - My thoughts on why Cards should show interest

[Pariah]

Interesting idea. They seem to look for possession targets on the outside and look to stretch the field with Gronkowski and Hernandez, though. Would he be happy getting 60 touches a season? Would New England want to pay $25 million guaranteed for that?

Would definitely help with special teams, though.

Bellichek is the best coach I've seen at making use of the talent he has on hand. I don't think they'd pass on talent just because it doesn't fit what they did the previous season.

JMHO

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Hey! Do I go into your guys multiple Peyton circle jerk threads talking about DeSean? NO! I expect the same curtisy..

I cant spell for crap today haha

They have been "curt" with you and not a bit "courteous:.

 

[kerouac9]

The second that kick went through in the playoff game SF started planning how to upgrade at WR and the local media has already identified DeSean as one guy they'd likely go after if he hits FA.

Doesn't mean they will but I'd be pretty surprised if they passed on him because of Ted Ginn.

Fair enough, and there's no question that San Francisco needs better targets on the outside. I'm just wondering if DeSean is that guy. David Maclin's been better than him the last two years.

As I said, they have Ted Ginn, but rotoworld has him as a pending free agent. So bringing in DeSean and allowing him to replace Ginn's production in special teams is a definite possibility.

I don't blame the Bay Area media for connecting dots with Jackson coming back home. I just happen to think that's less important than money and role. I think that most teams around the NFL would prefer to get a big-bodied WR with speed like Dewayne Bowe than Jackson, who is a known concussion risk at this point, all things being equal. But because San Francisco emphasizes special teams so much, he's a more interesting option for them.

 

[Russ Smith]

Fair enough, and there's no question that San Francisco needs better targets on the outside. I'm just wondering if DeSean is that guy. David Maclin's been better than him the last two years.

As I said, they have Ted Ginn, but rotoworld has him as a pending free agent. So bringing in DeSean and allowing him to replace Ginn's production in special teams is a definite possibility.

I don't blame the Bay Area media for connecting dots with Jackson coming back home. I just happen to think that's less important than money and role. I think that most teams around the NFL would prefer to get a big-bodied WR with speed like Dewayne Bowe than Jackson, who is a known concussion risk at this point, all things being equal. But because San Francisco emphasizes special teams so much, he's a more interesting option for them.

Don't quote me but I think harbaugh knows him from his days at Cal I seem to recall reading something about that before the 2 teams played this year but not positive.

KC would also make some sense IIRC, his older brother was drafted by the Chiefs and he said he grew up a Chiefs fan.

If Al Davis were still alive I'd say Oakland too so they could complete their 4 x 100 meter relay team with Ford, DHB etc.

 

[Phrazbit]

Bellichek is the best coach I've seen at making use of the talent he has on hand. I don't think they'd pass on talent just because it doesn't fit what they did the previous season.

JMHO

2 tight ends being stars in the same offense, wide outs playing corner... hell, even his QB can punt! Bellichek is certainly not afraid to mix it up.

 

[187]

Jackson might be a bit of a ********, but I definitely would not mind having him stretching the field across from fitz.

Interesting idea. They seem to look for possession targets on the outside and look to stretch the field with Gronkowski and Hernandez, though. Would he be happy getting 60 touches a season? Would New England want to pay $25 million guaranteed for that?

Would definitely help with special teams, though.

He averages 58 receptions a year so I don't think that's an issue. He's not a possession receiver that is expecting 90+ catches.

 

[kerouac9]

He averages 58 receptions a year so I don't think that's an issue. He's not a possession receiver that is expecting 90+ catches.

I'll say it again: Larry Fitzgerald is the deep threat for the Arizona Cardinals. He opens up the middle zones for Doucet and Roberts. If you want to draw some coverage over the top, then we have Rob Housler who is supposed to be opening up the seams.

We're not paying Larry Fitzgerald $120 million to run slants and seven-yard square routes. There's no one except Andre Johnson and Megatron who is going to pull double coverage off Larry Fitzgerald. If we had a quarterback who could more consistently deliver the ball to the targets we DO have that aren't Larry Fitzgerald, he's going to see less bracket coverage.

 

[kerouac9]

Don't quote me but I think harbaugh knows him from his days at Cal I seem to recall reading something about that before the 2 teams played this year but not positive.

KC would also make some sense IIRC, his older brother was drafted by the Chiefs and he said he grew up a Chiefs fan.

If Al Davis were still alive I'd say Oakland too so they could complete their 4 x 100 meter relay team with Ford, DHB etc.

I think that Tampa if they were going to make one major move would be a good landing spot for him. They have no speed on their offense and have Preston Porter and Micheal Spurlock returning punts for them.

Jackson is just a #2+ receiver. He's like a cross between Lee Evans and Terry Glenn (who were both really good players in their days). As I've said elsewhere on the board, times are really tough for #2 WRs around the NFL.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think that Tampa if they were going to make one major move would be a good landing spot for him. They have no speed on their offense and have Preston Porter and Micheal Spurlock returning punts for them.

Jackson is just a #2+ receiver. He's like a cross between Lee Evans and Terry Glenn (who were both really good players in their days). As I've said elsewhere on the board, times are really tough for #2 WRs around the NFL.

Yeah he's not a #1, won't go over the middle so will never be a 1. But dangerous as hell.

TB would make sense too.

 

[Tyler]

If you ask me, this is what Marcus Fitzgerald was talking about when he tweeted " big news" this offseason for Az.

Just my guess though.

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[Buckybird]

I'll say it again: Larry Fitzgerald is the deep threat for the Arizona Cardinals. He opens up the middle zones for Doucet and Roberts. If you want to draw some coverage over the top, then we have Rob Housler who is supposed to be opening up the seams.

We're not paying Larry Fitzgerald $120 million to run slants and seven-yard square routes. There's no one except Andre Johnson and Megatron who is going to pull double coverage off Larry Fitzgerald. If we had a quarterback who could more consistently deliver the ball to the targets we DO have that aren't Larry Fitzgerald, he's going to see less bracket coverage.

I might have to slightly disagree with that K9. It sure did seem to my Fitz was used in the slot to run most of those patterns in the back half of the season. Wiz & Co. did that to keep the double teams off him.

Sure Fitz is the deep threat, but when other guys have problems getting open inside or the QB isn't finding them, it sure makes things easier to have a quality 2nd WR. I'm all for adding 1 in the draft or FA...not named Desean Jackson.

 

[Russ Smith]

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Big news or big head?

Never ceases to amaze me how big Manning's head and forehead are.

 

[Tyler]

Big news or big head?

Never ceases to amaze me how big Manning's head and forehead are.

Gotta be big to keep all those plays in it.

 

[kerouac9]

I might have to slightly disagree with that K9. It sure did seem to my Fitz was used in the slot to run most of those patterns in the back half of the season. Wiz & Co. did that to keep the double teams off him.

Sure Fitz is the deep threat, but when other guys have problems getting open inside or the QB isn't finding them, it sure makes things easier to have a quality 2nd WR. I'm all for adding 1 in the draft or FA...not named Desean Jackson.

We HAVE quality #2 WRs in Doucet and Roberts. It's that the QB can't find them with any consistency. If our QBs looked for ANYONE outside of Fitz, we wouldn't have to move him around all the time to get him his numbers.

 

[Stout]

We HAVE quality #2 WRs in Doucet and Roberts. It's that the QB can't find them with any consistency. If our QBs looked for ANYONE outside of Fitz, we wouldn't have to move him around all the time to get him his numbers.

I, and many on this board, respectfully disagree. IMO, we have #3 WRs in Doucet and Roberts.

 

[Bodha]

He would corrupt PP

guarantee it


Right now, PP has a great head. Hes always asking what he can do to get better.

Put a loud, flashy, young guy on the team and watch PP follow him down the road to Divasville.

forget that

 

[Gee!]

He would corrupt PP

guarantee it


Right now, PP has a great head. Hes always asking what he can do to get better.

Put a loud, flashy, young guy on the team and watch PP follow him down the road to Divasville.

forget that

Im not sure that is true.. Dockett has known PP for some time now well before he made it to the NFL.. How? Dockett and Bryant McFadden went to FSU together.. And McFadden is PP's cousin.. Im sure Dockett would have a little more hold over PP than DeSean, even if DeSean was to be a diva.. Which we havent determined to be true.. What if Fitz has an effect on DeSean in a positive way? Everyone just thinking about negatives around here..

 

[Gee!]

He would corrupt PP

guarantee it


Right now, PP has a great head. Hes always asking what he can do to get better.

Put a loud, flashy, young guy on the team and watch PP follow him down the road to Divasville.

forget that

And BTW if you think PP has that weak of a mind he can be influenced this way, then it doesnt matter if we get DeSean or not because someone else will influence him somewhere, its just a matter of time.. If you want to play football and not mess things up, no one is gonna steer you away from it..

I dont believe PP is that meantally weak.. BTW

 

[TJ]

I, and many on this board, respectfully disagree. IMO, we have #3 WRs in Doucet and Roberts.

With the plethora of good receivers in free agency and the draft, finding Doucet's replacement and someone who can supplant Roberts as the #2 would not be a tall task.

Although, Roberts is taking this kind of personally. Here is a recent tweet:

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Andre' Roberts @ARob12_Cards Bring them all in....they won't out grind me...REMEMBER THAT #namesarenothin

Good mindset and I hope this lights a fire under his butt to improve his game.

 

[Chopper0080]

• Stevie Johnson
• Mario Manningham
• Robert Meacham

In that order are my realistic favorites as targets for this team and would compliment Fitz well.

I'm not a fan of D-Jax and his antics. Plus, I'm not sure he wants to share the spotlight with another big receiver, especially one that is more dominant.

This doesn't even take into account his value as a punt returner, at which Patrick Peterson is doing just fine.

Mine would go

Mario Manningham
Robert Meachem
Eddie Royal (the perfect buy low option)
Jerricho Cotchery (a player I have valued for a while)

 

[Duckjake]

We HAVE quality #2 WRs in Doucet and Roberts. It's that the QB can't find them with any consistency. If our QBs looked for ANYONE outside of Fitz, we wouldn't have to move him around all the time to get him his numbers.

If our other WRs were any good our QBs wouldn't have to look for Fitz all the time.

 

[WildBB]

I, and many on this board, respectfully disagree. IMO, we have #3 WRs in Doucet and Roberts.

2 1/2.....anybody do I hear 2 1/2.........

 

[Buckybird]

I, and many on this board, respectfully disagree. IMO, we have #3 WRs in Doucet and Roberts.

If our other WRs were any good our QBs wouldn't have to look for Fitz all the time.

Spot on

 

[BigRedRage]

Spot on

I would argue we dont look at fitz enough.

 

[kerouac9]

If our other WRs were any good our QBs wouldn't have to look for Fitz all the time.

Can you give me ONE example of a quarterback who got significantly better after their team surrounded him with "more talented" receivers? A quarterback can make good receivers look awesome and average receivers look good (Phil Rivers, Drew Brees, and Brett Favre are all testament to this), but bad quarterbacks make good WRs look worse all the freaking time. Braylon Edwards didn't suck, the quarterbacks around him in Cleveland did.

With the exception of Anquan Boldin, it's rare that a wideout is going to shine if the quarterback delivering him the ball isn't at least average. Even Jake Plummer got better when he left here, despite arguably having less talent on the outside with the Broncos than he had here. Giving Blaine Gabbert Megatron, Fitz, and Andre Johnson aren't going to suddenly make him a good quarterback.