Detroit Lions @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/15/24-09/21/24

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This is a big game but I won’t go as far as calling it a defining moment.
It’s an awfully long season. 2-1 would make us all feel fuzzy and warm but it doesn’t define nothing but our fandom.
Agreed! Would be a really really nice win but losing a competitive game with a winnable game against Washington wouldn’t deter my optimism. 2-2 after our first four games would be just fine especially since 0-4 was realistic to start the season.

But let’s get greedy and show the NFL what’s up this weekend!
 

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Agreed! Would be a really really nice win but losing a competitive game with a winnable game against Washington wouldn’t deter my optimism. 2-2 after our first four games would be just fine especially since 0-4 was realistic to start the season.

But let’s get greedy and show the NFL what’s up this weekend!
I’m thinking 2-2 with our yet to be used receiver and possibly a new disrupter on the defensive line we might be starring at the next 4 games as winnable.

The worst thing from the Detroit game would be a solid plan as to how to counter our offense.
 
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Detroit should win this game. We’re kind of outmatched in numerous spots, especially our D versus their O.

If we win though, playoffs might not be out of the question.

Yeah trenches is the big one.

The wildcard here is QB. Goff hasn't been playing well and Kyler has been on fire. If that happens again who knows? But as Goff probably has all day to pick passes I don't see it being an issue.
 

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Yeah trenches is the big one.

The wildcard here is QB. Goff hasn't been playing well and Kyler has been on fire. If that happens again who knows? But as Goff probably has all day to pick passes I don't see it being an issue.
I think Rallis is going to have a plan to swarm Goff... he kinda has to, the book on Goff has always been that he wilts under pressure...the redbirds just have not been able to pressure him in the past much.
 

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That’s just it, you’re arguing from a place admitted limited knowledge. I’m sure that lions fans don’t know who higgins or tip or either. Maybe their 2 and 3 are as good, or better, than our no name guys at the position. I can only grade upon what I know. LaPorta to mcbride. And while it’s close, LaPorta was historically fantastic as a rookie.
What I will say is that McBride with a full season with Murray last year probably would have put up much better numbers. His 17 game pace with Kyler last year would have been something like 1150 yards and 5 TDs.

Also looking at the two games played so far this year, it's 127 yards and a TD for our TEs versus 60 yards and no TDs for the Lions' TEs.
 

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And correct me if I’m wrong, but analytics don’t always have all the pertinent data to make them infallible. Like the analytics might say go for it on 4th down at their 30 with 3 yards to go. But what if you starting QB isn’t playing or you’re playing a team with a great defense? There’s also something called momentum. People might dismiss such as the “feels” of the game, but the players are human. Humans react on feelings. As a result momentum can absolutely be a real thing that operatives outside of The purview of analytics.
This. Also there is situational things in the game like the current score, how much game is left, how good the team has been performing in certain aspects in the game and of course what the team's strengths and weaknesses are in general.

A good example is if you have 4th and short at the 50 late in a close game. The analytics might say that you should go for it, but if your defense has forced a three and out on multiple possessions in a row and you have a good punter that will likely pin the other team close to the goal line, it's probably safe to say that you should just punt there.
 

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I think unless his leg is hanging off they will roll him out.
But that might be a wash. How much better is a hobbled ancient beachum than a younger healthy lesser player? Against average defenders maybe his guile is enough. Against a hutch that guile is likely meaningless.
 

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What I will say is that McBride with a full season with Murray last year probably would have put up much better numbers. His 17 game pace with Kyler last year would have been something like 1150 yards and 5 TDs.

Also looking at the two games played so far this year, it's 127 yards and a TD for our TEs versus 60 yards and no TDs for the Lions' TEs.
Again, I love mcbride. I think he’s a stud. I just question if he’s as good as LaPorta. Which I think is reasonable. I also like tip and higgins. But they’re largely unproven. And I just saw they signed ertz. I don’t think he’s got lots left in the tank, but tough to argue he’s not more proven than our backups.

Overall I love our TE room. Just don’t know how good the backups can be at max optimization.
 
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