Did the Senior Bowl change anyone's opinion about Von Miller?

[Solar7]

To me, the guy looks ready to play, and seems to have the instincts to dominate. I think he's the perfect match for us, even possibly over Patrick Peterson.

 

[juza76]

To me, the guy looks ready to play, and seems to have the instincts to dominate. I think he's the perfect match for us, even possibly over Patrick Peterson.

here paople said he is not good against run,i think he is very complete player.the more ready player to play outside linabacker position.i like also nate irving,6.1 242'' he could be a option for SILB

 

[Krangodnzr]

here paople said he is not good against run,i think he is very complete player.the more ready player to play outside linabacker position.i like also nate irving,6.1 242'' he could be a option for SILB

Irving is incredibly underrated.

He makes gamechanging plays from the ILB position, which is rare. IMO he's better than Martez Wilson and Greg Jones.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think it would be awfully hard to pass on Peterson if he's sitting there at 5. I like Miller alot, but Peterson is just too good.

i just read an article on Miller and think they made a very good comparison to what type of playe he could be and who he reminds them of: Derrick Thomas.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Von-Miller-wowing-scouts-at-Senior-Bowl.html

 

[Second Deck]

I was very impressed with Miller today. I would have no problem if the took Miller at 5. I will say Locker was not impressive at all. I would like to get kid out of Reno in the second but doubt he will be there. The U of A LB Reed had a nice game.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think it would be awfully hard to pass on Peterson if he's sitting there at 5. I like Miller alot, but Peterson is just too good.

i just read an article on Miller and think they made a very good comparison to what type of playe he could be and who he reminds them of: Derrick Thomas.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Von-Miller-wowing-scouts-at-Senior-Bowl.html

I am also on the Patrick Peterson bandwagon, but Von Miller is beginning to push his way into the discussion because of the team need at OLB.

I still like the options that Peterson gives us on defense and on special teams, and hopefully we can address the OLB position later in the draft. Maybe take a guy in round 2 or 3.

 

[ajcardfan]

Sorry cbus, I actually hit "edit" instead of "quote" But, here is what I wrote:


I think the team that drafts Miller will get about 10 or more sacks a season. That is something we haven't had since Berry's first couple of years here. We BADLY need pass rush. And, I think corners are too handcuffed by the rules now to take in the top 10.

If he is close to being as good as Derrick Thomas we'll love the guy. On top of all that, he's just a really solid dude too.

 

[Snakester]

Didn't change my mind at all. Have liked him the whole time. Everything he showed at the SB I have already watched on game tapes so nothing is new.

 

[football karma]

I think it would be awfully hard to pass on Peterson if he's sitting there at 5. I like Miller alot, but Peterson is just too good.

i just read an article on Miller and think they made a very good comparison to what type of playe he could be and who he reminds them of: Derrick Thomas.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Von-Miller-wowing-scouts-at-Senior-Bowl.html

Derrick Thomas? A team could do far, far worse at #5 than the next coming of Derrick Thomas

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Derrick Thomas? A team could do far, far worse at #5 than the next coming of Derrick Thomas

No kidding. He's in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Syracusecards]

Sorry cbus, I actually hit "edit" instead of "quote" But, here is what I wrote:


I think the team that drafts Miller will get about 10 or more sacks a season. That is something we haven't had since Berry's first couple of years here. We BADLY need pass rush. And, I think corners are too handcuffed by the rules now to take in the top 10.

If he is close to being as good as Derrick Thomas we'll love the guy. On top of all that, he's just a really solid dude too.

Great point about cb's. The pass rush makes the cb these days

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If the kid is as good as Derrick Thomas, I would draft him twice!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

"I got a lot of film on Derrick Thomas, I like the way he plays the game," Miller said. "Joe Kines told me a long time ago that I had similar attributes to my game that he had. Right then and there, I looked him up and just watched him. I try to emulate some of the stuff he does. You can’t do some of the stuff he does, but I try my hardest to be like Derrick Thomas.

"Just his mentality about the game. I don’t think it’s his physical ability that I try to emulate. It’s the way he played the game with a relentless fanatical effort with every play That’s what allowed him to make the plays that he made."

:thumbsup

 

[overseascardfan]

Lets see what he weighs in at next month at the Combine. If he comes in at 247 which is about 10 lbs heavier than his current weight then I think his stock goes up. I think he can play the WOLB, he may be a one trick pony but we really need that one trick on our defense. I would be torn though if Peterson is ther at #5 because the OLB pool is deeper this year than the CB pool and you could probably get a guy like Jeremy Beal in Round 2 or Sam Acho in Round 3. Miller at WOLB and Kamerion Wimbley at SOLB is a dream worth dreaming.

 

[juza76]

Lets see what he weighs in at next month at the Combine. If he comes in at 247 which is about 10 lbs heavier than his current weight then I think his stock goes up. I think he can play the WOLB, he may be a one trick pony but we really need that one trick on our defense. I would be torn though if Peterson is ther at #5 because the OLB pool is deeper this year than the CB pool and you could probably get a guy like Jeremy Beal in Round 2 or Sam Acho in Round 3. Miller at WOLB and Kamerion Wimbley at SOLB is a dream worth dreaming.

acho is a second rounder beal he is a fourth rounder

 

[Southpaw]

To me, the guy looks ready to play, and seems to have the instincts to dominate. I think he's the perfect match for us, even possibly over Patrick Peterson.

No. He is still a reach with the 5 pick.

 

[JeffGollin]

Didn't Change My Mind

Top on my BAPWCHUM* board going into the Senior Bowl/Top on my board after the SB.

*BAPWCHUM = Best Available Player Who Can Help Us Most

 

[Duckjake]

I'm on board with Acho in the 2nd for OLB now instead of Beal. Although it is hard to tell since what I saw of Beal was all as a 4-3 DE in the Sr.Bowl.

“I am prepared to switch to a stand up linebacker position,” said Acho, who played defensive end at Texas. “There are a lot of 4-3 and 3-4 teams in the league so depending on which team picks me I may have to make that transition and I played that position my first two years at Texas, so I’m comfortable with it.”

Acho has an almost identical skill set to Brian Orakpo and we all know what Orakpo has done in his two seasons in Washington.

 

[JeffGollin]

Beale had his moments, but those (called and uncalled) encroachment penalties are killers. Some guys grow out of it/some don't.

 

[overseascardfan]

acho is a second rounder beal he is a fourth rounder

Everything I've seen and read suggest the opposite. Beal is considered at Top 60 guy, he most certainly will not be available in Round 4. He may have slipped a little because he played out of position at DE in the Senior Bowl but no mock I've seen has Acho going before the 3rd round.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm on board with Acho in the 2nd for OLB now instead of Beal. Although it is hard to tell since what I saw of Beal was all as a 4-3 DE in the Sr.Bowl.

Acho has an almost identical skill set to Brian Orakpo and we all know what Orakpo has done in his two seasons in Washington.

I wouldn't mind Acho, though I like Brooks Reed more at this point. Beal was disappointing, but I figured that he would start to drop as soon as I saw that he wasn't going to be repping at OLB. He is a 5th round 4-3 DE and a late 2nd round 3-4 OLBer from what I have seen. Because he doesn't flash great athleticism I expect him to drop into the 3rd round after the combine.

I feel a bit hamstrung by our offensive line. I like the defensive talent enough to take all defensive players with our top 3 picks, but our line is so weak that I can't see passing on an offensive linemen for 3 rounds either. I would be surprised to see us pass on Carimi, Sherrod, Castonzo, Watkins or Moffitt in teh 2nd or 3rd rounds if they are available.

 

[Chopper0080]

Beale had his moments, but those (called and uncalled) encroachment penalties are killers. Some guys grow out of it/some don't.

I liked how he seemed to pick up the QB cadence so quickly in an All Star game when they were swapping QB's so frequently. I don't mind the penalties in a game like this because it shows he is trying to make plays.

 

[WildBB]

I wouldn't mind Acho, though I like Brooks Reed more at this point. Beal was disappointing, but I figured that he would start to drop as soon as I saw that he wasn't going to be repping at OLB. He is a 5th round 4-3 DE and a late 2nd round 3-4 OLBer from what I have seen. Because he doesn't flash great athleticism I expect him to drop into the 3rd round after the combine.

I feel a bit hamstrung by our offensive line. I like the defensive talent enough to take all defensive players with our top 3 picks, but our line is so weak that I can't see passing on an offensive linemen for 3 rounds either. I would be surprised to see us pass on Carimi, Sherrod, Castonzo, Watkins or Moffitt in teh 2nd or 3rd rounds if they are available.

I'd really like to get Brooks Reed in here. Don't know if he'll last to our 3rd round pick.

I agree we need to go OL in the 2nd.

We really need the extra picks.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'd really like to get Brooks Reed in here. Don't know if he'll last to our 3rd round pick.

I am wondering that too. He is a player that I predicted will rise or fall depending on the level of agility that he shows at the combine. Not so much 40 time, but how he moves in the linebacking drills. If he moves as smooth at the combine as he showed at the Senior Bowl, he may be a 2nd rounder. If that is the case, I wouldn't mind moving down in the 2nd to get him while trying to acquire another 3rd or 4th rounder.

 

[kerouac9]

Good lord, Von Miller is small. Way too small to stand up in a one-gap scheme like we run most of the time.

Dude looks to me like a 4-3 rush linebacker. 237 and doesn't seem to have the frame to add much more weight.

Here he is against Nebraska: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkDdpgRn7Pk

Doesn't demand extra attention, constantly outrushes his position. Haven't seen him back up into coverage.