Director Kevin Smith Kicked Off Plane for Being Too Fat

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It's just one of those wicked telling signs, one of those sad little cultural punches that make you cringe and sigh even as you stifle a laugh and roll your eyes at the state of it all, as you read the one about how an increasing percentage of people -- mostly women but half of the men, too -- aren't receiving their proper dosage of medicine when given a shot in the rear by a nurse at the hospital because, well, their butts are just too damn big.

Which is to say, the needles are now too damn short. Too short to reach what remains of the gluteus in most increasingly obese butt-exploded people in America, and hence hospitals are now having to use longer and longer needles to penetrate all the fatty acreage in the average American rear and deliver the meds these people so desperately need to, you know, help lower their cholesterol and treat their diabetes and try to prevent the imminent heart disease that's coming upon them like a steam engine due to all the, uh, obesity.

It's just another telltale slap, much like those recurrent stories about how airline manufacturers are forced to increase the seating area in planes and charge double for passengers who take up two seats and every single airline is now burning a great deal more fuel to fly due to all the excess weight. Fly the friendly skies indeed, but only if we can get the plane in the air.

All part of the wider trend: larger caskets and heavy-duty toilet seats, thicker mattresses and industrial-strength office chairs and redesigned school systems to accommodate the enormous increase in obese children. They're altering the design of cars to fit fatter American butts and reinforcing restaurant chairs, and it's also the reason most SUVs are sold to overweight, aggressive males because have you seen the average American try to squeeze into, say, a Miata? Like a melon into a coffee cup, baby. Not pretty.

I know, it's not a simple problem. I know obesity is a terribly complicated issue, crosses myriad sociocultural lines, is more than merely too much unhealthy food coupled with too much laziness coupled with too much I'm-a-victim thinking coupled with lack of self-control coupled with lack of exercise coupled with lack of decent health education coupled with lousy upbringing coupled with sinister garbage-food corporate marketing coupled with increasingly sedentary TV-addicted lifestyles coupled with pain-avoidance mechanisms coupled with believing it's all up to the Big Pharmcos to merely invent a magic bullet to cure it all. Oh wait, check that, it's not more than that at all. That's exactly what it is.
 

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But... bags fly free!

Oh, I know.

because now it won't go away, and is stuck in my head, unless I blow it out with a bullet!

I hate that f'n commercial.

You don't pay for bags, and because of that they can say" Well, at least we are not charging you for your bags." When your flights is 82 hours late.
 

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I had a nightmare last night...

I was on a plane, and seated on either side of me was Rugby, and BIM. Shane was sitting in front of me, and he leaned his seat back... it was a that moment that DCR showed up (in a female flight attendant's uniform) and asked me if I would like some nuts.

I woke up screaming!
 

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No its us dude.

By Army standards I am morbidly obese. By any real medical standards I am obese. And its true. I try to deny it but its true. I should be 175 pounds. And when I was, when I was in the Army, I fit into a Jetta with ease.

Yeah, but Army standards are a joke. Need to pass the tape test? Grow a bigger neck which, to me and others, means GETTING FATTER. Makes no sense.

By medical standards I should be 190 pounds, which is a joke. The problem is, you can't just say that all people 6'3 should weigh 190 pounds. I wouldn't be able to lose that much weight and survive, literally. I guesstimate, although I might be off by 10 or 20 pounds, that I would be in perfect, tip-top shape at 250.

Also, the problem with the 'force them to buy 2 seats' theory is when someone does fit in the seat and it still doesn't leave enough room. They tried to seat me on a window seat in a small aircraft once, and only a person kind enough to switch kept me from getting kicked off--my shoulders didn't fit. I'm just waiting for someone to complain about my shoulders, which is valid because of how tiny and squished together the seats are, and to get kicked off. Lord love a duck, I'll go off so bad I'll be arrested. My shoulders aren't effing fat, and the broader they are the better shape I am in. The fact is, the seats are too tiny and too close together, making it so that even in-shape tall people don't fit properly. Now, they should get penalized too? Heck no.

I like the idea of the one row being slightly more expensive but having more room. Slightly.
 

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Yeah, but Army standards are a joke. Need to pass the tape test? Grow a bigger neck which, to me and others, means GETTING FATTER. Makes no sense.

Forget the tape test thats just a last chance to stay in. I mena the height/weight proportions. They are not a joke. They are a joke to modern americans that cant fathom what being in shape is.

By medical standards I should be 190 pounds, which is a joke. The problem is, you can't just say that all people 6'3 should weigh 190 pounds. I wouldn't be able to lose that much weight and survive, literally.

I disagree with you wholeheartidly. My brother is 6'4 is on a diet and got down to 200 and wants to lose 5 more. He looks and feels great.

Every height has a range. At 6' if I recall correctly my range is 158-180.

180 being the top! The lowest I got was in bosnia when I was 163 and I felt invincible. I had abour 4% body fat if that. My arms and legs were cords of muscle lol oh the days. Ironically I still had a pot belly.
 

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Forget the tape test thats just a last chance to stay in. I mena the height/weight proportions. They are not a joke. They are a joke to modern americans that cant fathom what being in shape is.



I disagree with you wholeheartidly. My brother is 6'4 is on a diet and got down to 200 and wants to lose 5 more. He looks and feels great.

Every height has a range. At 6' if I recall correctly my range is 158-180.

180 being the top! The lowest I got was in bosnia when I was 163 and I felt invincible. I had abour 4% body fat if that. My arms and legs were cords of muscle lol oh the days. Ironically I still had a pot belly.

You're smarter than that. You're saying that every single person in the world that's 6'3 should weigh 190 pounds at most. That's just stupid, swd. I don't even have to argue against that, because it argues against itself.
 

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You're smarter than that. You're saying that every single person in the world that's 6'3 should weigh 190 pounds at most. That's just stupid, swd. I don't even have to argue against that, because it argues against itself.

That is ******** stout I agree. You just count account for a person is built. You could have two 6'3" inch individuals both weighing in at 225 lbs and have completely different builds.

Some peopel are bigger boned built wider etc... Those charts and graph don't account for that stuff.
 

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I had a nightmare last night...

I was on a plane, and seated on either side of me was Rugby, and BIM. Shane was sitting in front of me, and he leaned his seat back... it was a that moment that DCR showed up (in a female flight attendant's uniform) and asked me if I would like some nuts.

I woke up screaming!

:lmao:
 
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1632494/20100223/index.jhtml

"I was so mad at the press" - The final — and most significant — reason why you're not seeing Kevin Smith on TV this week is the same one that has made his audience love him for all these years: The man is brutally honest and talkative to a fault. As he explained in Tuesday's tweet, however, he did speak to a handful of radio outlets — and the aforementioned MTV Radio interview offers unique insight into his mind-set these days.

"It's on my blog. I would waste time talking about it now, but you could pull it off my SModcast where I do the whole story," Kevin responded when asked the inevitable Southwest question. "I did about 24 video clips called 'Final Words' that also contains the whole story. And the blog has it all outlined; it would be a waste of time to go all over it again now."

A good, short, concise, polite answer. The only problem is, fans of Kevin Smith know that such a thing is an impossibility. Sure enough, he spent the rest of the radio interview — approximately one-third of the entire thing — doing exactly what he had just called "a waste of time."

The point seemed to be that Smith wants to get his own message out there and then get back to talking about his movie. So, although we rarely run an article this long, we now present Kevin's unedited thoughts on Southwest, the media and how he was wronged:

"The long story short? My parents taught me if you get f---ed and you don't want to get f---ed, then you start screaming. And that's what happened. I got lied to, I got f---ed over and I started complaining. And the airline was like, 'Well, something did happen — but he is fat and fat people should buy two seats.' And they put the information out there side by side and made it about weight. But it wasn't about weight — it was about a dude who bounced me for no reason, except maybe he didn't like a joke I told him on my way down the Jetway."

"First they were like, 'The pilot told us you have to get off because you're a safety concern.' I was like, 'Are you kidding me? Tell me the pilot's name.' And they lied — they lied again and again ... two days later, they told me, 'The pilot didn't say it, some employee made the call.' And I was like, 'OK, so it had nothing to do [with my weight],' because I could put my armrests down. I literally sat in the seat for five seconds before this chick — who had been all the way up at the desk in the airport — came over. If I just hit my seat and she's saying the pilot wants me off, I was like, 'Where'd you get that message, ma'am?' She's like, 'Well, the pilot told me.' And I can't even see the pilot! I'm sitting in the front row of the bulkhead — if I can't see the pilot, how can he see me?

"She's like, 'Well, we have phones.' And I'm like, 'Well, I know you have phones, ma'am. But I'm telling you — I literally sat and here you are.' She said, 'Can you please just come with me?' The lie compounds; the lie compounds.

"I go outside, I'm like, 'Give me more information,' and she's like, 'The pilot, the pilot.' Two days later, Southwest is going, 'It wasn't the pilot.' But they don't change that on their blog — they don't point out that they've changed the information.

"Everyone's going, 'He's fat' for the next f---ing three days; the top of Google News is everyone in the world telling me I'm fat. Everyone on network [TV] telling me I'm fat; 'Entertainment Tonight' put a f---ing chick in a fat suit and put her on a plane. I'm like, 'What does this have to do [with anything]?'

"Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know how many ways to say this: For 15 years, I've been completely honest with everybody. I believe in honesty. And I've been saying I'm fat for 15 years. This ain't about being fat — they obfuscated the f---ing truth with my fat, which really bums me out. They used my own fat against me. They hid behind my fat. And that's my job — to hide behind my fat.

"The [fat story] is the sexy story that everybody wants to write ... I was so mad at the press because for 15 years I've done nothing but tell you the truth and give you interesting sh-- to write about. And this one time, when you could have come to my aid, all you did was let me dangle and let these f---ers call me fat. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking."
 

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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1632494/20100223/index.jhtml

"I was so mad at the press" - The final — and most significant — reason why you're not seeing Kevin Smith on TV this week is the same one that has made his audience love him for all these years: The man is brutally honest and talkative to a fault. As he explained in Tuesday's tweet, however, he did speak to a handful of radio outlets — and the aforementioned MTV Radio interview offers unique insight into his mind-set these days.

"It's on my blog. I would waste time talking about it now, but you could pull it off my SModcast where I do the whole story," Kevin responded when asked the inevitable Southwest question. "I did about 24 video clips called 'Final Words' that also contains the whole story. And the blog has it all outlined; it would be a waste of time to go all over it again now."

A good, short, concise, polite answer. The only problem is, fans of Kevin Smith know that such a thing is an impossibility. Sure enough, he spent the rest of the radio interview — approximately one-third of the entire thing — doing exactly what he had just called "a waste of time."

The point seemed to be that Smith wants to get his own message out there and then get back to talking about his movie. So, although we rarely run an article this long, we now present Kevin's unedited thoughts on Southwest, the media and how he was wronged:

"The long story short? My parents taught me if you get f---ed and you don't want to get f---ed, then you start screaming. And that's what happened. I got lied to, I got f---ed over and I started complaining. And the airline was like, 'Well, something did happen — but he is fat and fat people should buy two seats.' And they put the information out there side by side and made it about weight. But it wasn't about weight — it was about a dude who bounced me for no reason, except maybe he didn't like a joke I told him on my way down the Jetway."

"First they were like, 'The pilot told us you have to get off because you're a safety concern.' I was like, 'Are you kidding me? Tell me the pilot's name.' And they lied — they lied again and again ... two days later, they told me, 'The pilot didn't say it, some employee made the call.' And I was like, 'OK, so it had nothing to do [with my weight],' because I could put my armrests down. I literally sat in the seat for five seconds before this chick — who had been all the way up at the desk in the airport — came over. If I just hit my seat and she's saying the pilot wants me off, I was like, 'Where'd you get that message, ma'am?' She's like, 'Well, the pilot told me.' And I can't even see the pilot! I'm sitting in the front row of the bulkhead — if I can't see the pilot, how can he see me?

"She's like, 'Well, we have phones.' And I'm like, 'Well, I know you have phones, ma'am. But I'm telling you — I literally sat and here you are.' She said, 'Can you please just come with me?' The lie compounds; the lie compounds.

"I go outside, I'm like, 'Give me more information,' and she's like, 'The pilot, the pilot.' Two days later, Southwest is going, 'It wasn't the pilot.' But they don't change that on their blog — they don't point out that they've changed the information.

"Everyone's going, 'He's fat' for the next f---ing three days; the top of Google News is everyone in the world telling me I'm fat. Everyone on network [TV] telling me I'm fat; 'Entertainment Tonight' put a f---ing chick in a fat suit and put her on a plane. I'm like, 'What does this have to do [with anything]?'

"Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know how many ways to say this: For 15 years, I've been completely honest with everybody. I believe in honesty. And I've been saying I'm fat for 15 years. This ain't about being fat — they obfuscated the f---ing truth with my fat, which really bums me out. They used my own fat against me. They hid behind my fat. And that's my job — to hide behind my fat.

"The [fat story] is the sexy story that everybody wants to write ... I was so mad at the press because for 15 years I've done nothing but tell you the truth and give you interesting sh-- to write about. And this one time, when you could have come to my aid, all you did was let me dangle and let these f---ers call me fat. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking."

Well said, Kevin Smith. Well said.
 

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He's an egomaniac looking for attention. I guess he got what he was looking for.

Normally I'd agree with you, but having followed KS since the beginning of his career, he's really just the obvious. He could have cashed in a long, long time ago, but has instead chosen to fly way below the radar to do his own low-budget movies and live in New Jersey. He's anything but an egomaniac. The fact that few people in the major media even knew who he was is telling.

He really earnestly believes he's justified in this, for better or worse.
 

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Normally I'd agree with you, but having followed KS since the beginning of his career, he's really just the opposite. He could have cashed in a long, long time ago, but has instead chosen to fly way below the radar to do his own low-budget movies and live in New Jersey. He's anything but an egomaniac.

Then how do you explain Cop Out? Kind of a coincidence that his new movie is just coming out, huh?
 

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lol. A guy using his obesity to promote a movie. That's a new one!

He's using publicity to promote his movie.

Bad publicity is better than no publicity.
 

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Then how do you explain Cop Out? Kind of a coincidence that his new movie is just coming out, huh?

It's starring Bruce Willis. You think Kevin Smith needs to pull a stupid stunt to promote a movie with Bruce Willis?

The funny thing is KS didn't do anything different that he hasn't done since he started. He tweeted it. And blogged about it. As he's done for about 10 years now. You can interact with him on his message board at viewaskew.com. I can't think of another film director who's more approachable with fans, or more brutally honest about his own limitations. That's always been his appeal.

The difference here is someone in the media decided his tweet about this was newsworthy and that's how it became a national story.
 

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It's starring Bruce Willis. You think Kevin Smith needs to pull a stupid stunt to promote a movie with Bruce Willis?
Nowadays in February? Absolutely.

I don't think it was a planned stunt, but he's definitely milking it as much as he can.
 

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Nowadays in February? Absolutely.

I don't think it was a planned stunt, but he's definitely milking it as much as he can.

What? You think he learned something from his Mallrats experience? LOL

Sorry. Just not his M.O. I'm not the biggest KS fan, but he's not a cheap promotion guy. I'll give him that.
 

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What? You think he learned something from his Mallrats experience? LOL

Sorry. Just not his M.O. I'm not the biggest KS fan, but he's not a cheap promotion guy. I'll give him that.

Come on, should this story be as big as it is? I mean, this thread is evidence enough.

KS's aversion to traditional PR is still PR.
 

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Come on, should this story be as big as it is? I mean, this thread is evidence enough.

KS's aversion to traditional PR is still PR.

I think it's an honest coincidence. I believe he'd much prefer talking about directing a script he didn't write for the first time. I believe he'd much prefer talking about working with Bruce Willis, really the first time he's ever worked with a current A-list lead (if you don't count Seth Rogen, which I don't).
 

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I think it's an honest coincidence. I believe he'd much prefer talking about directing a script he didn't write for the first time. I believe he'd much prefer talking about working with Bruce Willis, really the first time he's ever worked with a current A-list lead (if you don't count Seth Rogen, which I don't).

Ben Affleck.
 

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