Doesn't Mike deserve an apology?

[da_suns_fan]

He was told by Kerr to "throw it into Amare in the post more" which we now know is so incredibly ineffective you might as well call it an automatic turnover.

He was told to "play his bench more" even though the majority of the guys he didn't play couldn't even stay in the league and the rest can't even get off the bench with their respective teams.

He said to focus more on defense even though his new coach has basically scrapped that plan after realizing his current guys were never going to out-defend anybody and has decided to try to win with offense.


btw - I always thought that "Mike doesn't play his bench" was the dumbest cliche in the history of this organization. Sarver fill out the bench with minimum contract guys to save money and then D'Antoni got heat for not playing them?

 

[cly2tw]

Do you ever watch Suns games at all? Throwing to Amare was the only thing that worked in the final couple of min in our win vs. Magics, it was among the the best working over the whole game and other games.

DA owes the Suns organization an apology that he never put in effort to develop Amare into a more complete player that he still has to learn from mistakes to improve certain aspects of his games in his 6th year, which DHoward, Bosh, Al Jefferson did in their first 3 seasons in the league.

You got the causality and fact all wrong, dude!

 

[arwillan]

Do you ever watch Suns games at all? Throwing to Amare was the only thing that worked in the final couple of min in our win vs. Magics, it was among the the best working over the whole game and other games.

DA owes the Suns organization an apology that he never put in effort to develop Amare into a more complete player that he still has to learn from mistakes to improve certain aspects of his games in his 6th year, which DHoward, Bosh, Al Jefferson did in their first 3 seasons in the league.

You got the causality and fact all wrong, dude!

throwing to amare in the post didn't help us win that game. amare is a pick and roll/pick and pop player. he is much better at slashing and getting fouled or shooting jumpshots than he is at backing someone down in the post to try and get a shot off.

 

[Chaplin]

Do you ever watch Suns games at all? Throwing to Amare was the only thing that worked in the final couple of min in our win vs. Magics, it was among the the best working over the whole game and other games.

DA owes the Suns organization an apology that he never put in effort to develop Amare into a more complete player that he still has to learn from mistakes to improve certain aspects of his games in his 6th year, which DHoward, Bosh, Al Jefferson did in their first 3 seasons in the league.

You got the causality and fact all wrong, dude!

da suns fan is the biggest D'Antoni homer on this board. There's no reasoning with him because he hates the fact that D'Antoni wanted to be paid so much more by NY.

 

[O]

Who cares about D'Antoni, he's histiry. Get over it.

 

[95pro]

we all forget, this is a business too.

no one owes anyone an apology.

and not to mention DA could have gone to the bulls and been much much happier.
he went after the $$$ in NY, after the suns wouldnt fire him, i.e wouldnt BUY him out.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

This thread is full of fail

 

[Kablansky]

If Mike is due an apology Isaiah needs to apologize to the Knicks

 

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[CaptainInsano]

Actually, D'antoni owes Kerr and US, THE FANS, an apology for not hiring the assistant coach that helped the celtics win a championship.

 

[Griffin]

Actually, D'antoni owes Kerr and US, THE FANS, an apology for not hiring the assistant coach that helped the celtics win a championship.

Right, because hiring a defensive minded coach like Terry Porter has done so much to improve our defense.

 

[Ronin]

Who cares about D'Antoni, he's histiry. Get over it.

 

[PetryJr]

Right, because hiring a defensive minded coach like Terry Porter has done so much to improve our defense.

The difference is that Thibodeau, the guy Kerr interview for the job last year, is a GOOD defensive-minded assistant coach, with a respectable track record (before taking over in Boston, he was Van Gundy's lead assistant in Houston and New York). We can't say the same about Porter, at least not yet. In fact, if we look at what he did in Milwaukee as a head coach, we'll see that that team led the East in scoring in one season and wasn't very good defensively.

 

[shazaam6]

Wow Sorry Mike D'antoni, your GM made suggestions and you blew a fuse and left. It is not like he fired your brother or something.

How is that?

 

[CaptainInsano]

Right, because hiring a defensive minded coach like Terry Porter has done so much to improve our defense.

It wouldn't have been the FOCUS though, you don't hire an assistant coach to turn the whole team into a defensive minded team when the head coach is Mike D'antoni.

He would have attempted to help with our defense, and it could have worked when you have D'antoni still focusing on offense.

Porter was brought in to switch the entire team to a defensive one, it didn't work. That is not the suns.

The above 2 plans are very different. It isn't a fair comparison.

 

[DeAnna]

Nah, why should we when he made out like a $$bandit$$.

I understand his reasoning that he couldn't change course after 4 yrs to try to make this a defensive team (see Terry Porter) with the personnel he had.

Heard a snipped of his interview on the radio this evening. He said it's hard for him to watch any Suns game because he's still emotionally attached to those guys. He thinks it'll take him a while before he can watch objectively.

 

[DeAnna]

throwing to amare in the post didn't help us win that game. amare is a pick and roll/pick and pop player. he is much better at slashing and getting fouled or shooting jumpshots than he is at backing someone down in the post to try and get a shot off.

Yeah, I don't know if Cly2tw is actually watching the games himself, LoL. I complained that Amare hardly even got any touches in the 4th qtr. With DHoward out, they should have been going to him more often.

Throwing the ball into Amare in the post is a disaster waiting to happen (and it usually is when they do try it).

 

[da_suns_fan]

I guess I should have stated the question differently.

My point was, he was right.

btw- to cly2tw, who asked me if I ever watched any Suns games because I claimed that throwing it into Amare in the post is ineffective, let me tell you that you must be the worst observant of basketball I have ever come across. The very idea that there are Suns fans so clueless as to not realize how God awful Amare is with his back to the basket makes me feel inherently less smart by association.

 

[O]

I guess I should have stated the question differently.

My point was, he was right.

Let me re-phrase it;
Who gives a crap?
It doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cly2tw]

I guess I should have stated the question differently.

My point was, he was right.

btw- to cly2tw, who asked me if I ever watched any Suns games because I claimed that throwing it into Amare in the post is ineffective, let me tell you that you must be the worst observant of basketball I have ever come across. The very idea that there are Suns fans so clueless as to not realize how God awful Amare is with his back to the basket makes me feel inherently less smart by association.

Thanks to your God-sent magician DAntoni, Amare got as many postup chances in his 6 years in the NBA as Dwight Howard in his first month or Al Jefferson in his first month from bench! And Amare has definitely better with those touches than the other two. Is it Amare or DA? Do you now understand why Kerr asked more post feeding to Amare? Unlike DA who was worried about winning the next game only, Kerr has the long term interest of the franchise to worry about. Is that too hard to grasp?

 

[da_suns_fan]

Let me re-phrase it;
Who gives a crap?
It doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, geez, "O", I guess none of this really "matters". I mean, its just people who none of us personally know playing sports, right?

I mean, I guess this message board doesn't matter when you think about it. Its not like what anyone ever says on here ever affects your REAL life, right?

Or maybe it does matter to people who like to talk and argue about their favorite teams on a message boards for fun.

Maybe some people were sick of hearing the lame, cliche criticisms of D'Antoni.

He had major weaknesses, but the ones mindlessly spouted on this board and by many others have been proven to be unjust.

 

[Forrestham]

I do give D'Antoni credit for helping make the Suns a much better team. Before he took over this team was unwatchable. We had a n exciting team for 4 years but could not beat the Spurs. D'Antoni was stubborn to a fault. Kerr was with in his right to ask to practice defense. DA was the one who blew a fuse. He was too stubborn and non flexible to make a few tweaks and let someone handle the defense. Hers actiing like a whining baby. I am not saying Kerr does not have some fault but DA needs to turn the page and realize he is now coaching the Knicks. We also have to realize that Porter is now the coach. He has not been great but not terrible either. At least he did realize his offense was not working and willing to make adjustments. This is soemthing DA would not do

 

[Errntknght]

da suns fan,

btw- to cly2tw, who asked me if I ever watched any Suns games because I claimed that throwing it into Amare in the post is ineffective, let me tell you that you must be the worst observant of basketball I have ever come across. The very idea that there are Suns fans so clueless as to not realize how God awful Amare is with his back to the basket makes me feel inherently less smart by association.

it would help if you'd say 'low post' when that's what you mean... at one time 'post' had that meaning but nowdays people talk about posting up out high as well. You're exaggerating when you say Amare is terrible posting up low - though he doesn't have a back to the basket shot. But his spin moves are pretty good and sometimes he faces up even when he's low - personally, I like the latter move and I'd like to see him use it more.

 

[da_suns_fan]

Thanks to your God-sent magician DAntoni, Amare got as many postup chances in his 6 years in the NBA as Dwight Howard in his first month or Al Jefferson in his first month from bench! And Amare has definitely better with those touches than the other two. Is it Amare or DA? Do you now understand why Kerr asked more post feeding to Amare? Unlike DA who was worried about winning the next game only, Kerr has the long term interest of the franchise to worry about. Is that too hard to grasp?

Nice try pal:

Do you ever watch Suns games at all? Throwing to Amare was the only thing that worked in the final couple of min in our win vs. Magics, it was among the the best working over the whole game and other games.

Claiming that a strategy might not work now but might be better in the long run is quite different than claiming that Amare's post game is "working" now and has been one of our "best" plays in several games.

I personally dont believe that Amare has the natural basketball IQ to be effective in the post at any point in his career. Mostly because HE DOESNT LIKE CONTACT. Also because its physically tougher than taking your man off the dribble and he's lazy.

But none of that matters since you seem to believe that he is effective at it NOW, which is (as I said earlier) the worst observation I have ever read from a fan in my life.

 

[DeAnna]

Porter is now the coach. He has not been great but not terrible either. At least he did realize his defense was not working and willing to make adjustments.

FTFY.