DRC getting owned

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not true shane just tries to annoy and juice the board for giggles i knew someone in high school who he reminds me of, real instigator , never got in a fight but caused countless of them with his little bitching and back biting

his whole offseason/preseason "i want leinert to win the job ploy" and then giggling with glee when he was cut and anderson got the job was as transparent as glass.
just an instigator, maybe the board sends him a share of advertising revenue to try and increase traffic, who knows? half the time he doesn't believe what he says, and if he doe's i feel sorry for anybody that has contact with the dude,
in fact i am putting him on ignore if we have that feature which is what most everyone finally decided to do to the dude in highschool

does anyone see the irony in a post completely devoid of football where the poster spends his entire time personally slamming another poster while calling THAT GUY the "instigator, bitch and back-biter."

"I feel sorry for anybody that has contact with the dude"? Good grief. talk football.
 

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does anyone see the irony in a post completely devoid of football where the poster spends his entire time personally slamming another poster while calling THAT GUY the "instigator, bitch and back-biter."

"I feel sorry for anybody that has contact with the dude"? Good grief. talk football.

I see.
 

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I'm not even going to read the whole thread, because most of the 1st page of this thread was complete crap and smacked of bitterness from the loss. Of all the guys I want to blame, DRC is not one of the main ones. The PI in the end zone was one of the ******** officiating calls of the game. The Jolly Green Giant couldn't have caught that ball. He had a bad missed tackle, but that is the weekness of his game, and he is set up to fail in that weekness constantly, week-in and week-out.

Are we surprised that our star CB can't cover when he gets lined up 8-12 yards off the ball? It is patently impossible for even the best in the game to routinely close 8-12 yards almost immediately to break up a pass 10 or so times a game. DRC is being put into a position to fail. K9, don't give me the crap about our LBers not being able to cover because I don't want to hear it. We're taking away the strength of our best cover corner and making him look bad because of it.

It should be no surprise that DRC got smoked when the coaches literally put him in a position to fail.
 

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What exactly is a shut down corner?

Was our defense in cover zero all game? Do you know what the coverage call was on the plays where he was beat? Do the CBs decide where they are going to line up in relation to the line of scrimmage or is that dictated by the coverage?

I don't think he had a good game but i would rank him about 7th in relation to the starter on Defense who didn't do their job:

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Bryan Robinson
Calais Campbell
Washington
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Haggans
Lennon
Toler

These 8 played like absolute crap. Why aren't there threads about each of these players?
 
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I was watching the Ch. 3 sports show and one of the analysts was saying that was ATL's game plan. Run wide and force the corners to come up and make tackles. Clearly they saw that DRC can't/won't tackle and the Cards got gashed time and time again.
 

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I was watching the Ch. 3 sports show and one of the analysts was saying that was ATL's game plan. Run wide and force the corners to come up and make tackles. Clearly they saw that DRC can't/won't tackle and the Cards got gashed time and time again.

Aren't you pretty much done if your secondary is making the tackles?
 

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Wow. I only read the first page, but I think this is a typical knee-jerk reaction thread.

Is DRC a Revis-level CB? No.

Is he really, really good? Yes.

Can he get better? Yes.
 

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I'm not even going to read the whole thread, because most of the 1st page of this thread was complete crap and smacked of bitterness from the loss. Of all the guys I want to blame, DRC is not one of the main ones. The PI in the end zone was one of the ******** officiating calls of the game. The Jolly Green Giant couldn't have caught that ball. He had a bad missed tackle, but that is the weekness of his game, and he is set up to fail in that weekness constantly, week-in and week-out.

Are we surprised that our star CB can't cover when he gets lined up 8-12 yards off the ball? It is patently impossible for even the best in the game to routinely close 8-12 yards almost immediately to break up a pass 10 or so times a game. DRC is being put into a position to fail. K9, don't give me the crap about our LBers not being able to cover because I don't want to hear it. We're taking away the strength of our best cover corner and making him look bad because of it.

It should be no surprise that DRC got smoked when the coaches literally put him in a position to fail.

I do not understand why are coaches insist on lining our corners 10 yards off the ball, especially when teams are in the redzone. And it can't be 'DRC being afraid to get smoked' because they have done this with nearly every corner the past few years. The only time I can remember someone consistently pressing at the LOS (or being anywhere near it) was Rod Hood vs TO the last time we played Dallas. I'm not saying DRC should be pressing on the los, because I doubt he is physical enough for that to work in his favor, but there's not reason for him to be that far off the ball. Anyone remember the playoff game vs atlanta? White's stats:

11 receptions, 84 yards, 7.6avg, 1 TD, and a long of 12. All they did was dink and dunk on short routes because we had DRC 10 yards off the ball every play.
 
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Wow. I only read the first page, but I think this is a typical knee-jerk reaction thread.

Is DRC a Revis-level CB? No.

Is he really, really good? Yes.

Can he get better? Yes.

Revis got burned last night for a TD too.
 

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It's nature of today's NFL beast that any CB is going to get beat. The rules are far too much in favor of the offense for it to be any other way. DRC is a good player, I don't think the words "shut down" or "great" should be used with him. He'll have his good moments and his bad ones. At some point this year, he'll make a couple of big INTs that will be huge for victories. Just like the last couple of seasons.
 

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What exactly is a shut down corner?

Was our defense in cover zero all game? Do you know what the coverage call was on the plays where he was beat? Do the CBs decide where they are going to line up in relation to the line of scrimmage or is that dictated by the coverage?

I don't think he had a good game but i would rank him about 7th in relation to the starter on Defense who didn't do their job:

Docket
Bryan Robinson
Calais Campbell
Washington
Porter
Haggans
Lennon
Toler

These 6 played like absolute crap. Why aren't there threads about each of these players?

Those are eight players.
 

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Asomugha has done fine in Oakland with zero pass rush for the majority of his elite career. I would've hoped that DRC reached that level by now but alas. He is DeAngelo Hall 2.0, he shows flashes of his potential a lot of the time but never ends up reaching it.

this isn't entirely accurate. while the raiders have been putrid there defense has largely been pretty good. i don't know their sack numbers, but there d usually wasn't to blame for their poor record. asomugha is great (and certainly better than drc), but i don't remember qb's having the time ryan had yesterday.

let's put it this way, drc isn't as good as we all hoped. but he's still damn good. yesterday wasn't his best game. one PI was a damn good call. one was questionable. overall the whole defense crapped the bed.
 

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Just out of curiosity what are you basing this off of?
You yourself pointed out bunch of shortcomings. How can you point out his faults and then question when I say there's room for improvement.

To directly answer your question:

1. He can get stronger (I've said from the day he was drafted I worried about how thin he is)
2. He can become a better tackler
3. He can work on his technique rather than relying on his athleticism
 

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You yourself pointed out bunch of shortcomings. How can you point out his faults and then question when I say there's room for improvement.

To directly answer your question:

1. He can get stronger (I've said from the day he was drafted I worried about how thin he is)
2. He can become a better tackler
3. He can work on his technique rather than relying on his athleticism


1 & 3 for sure... but #2?? I don't see that happening... unless he has a lobotomy perhaps... The dude just doesn't have the psychological make-up that will allow him to stick his nose in there. Watched too much Neon Deon...
 
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You yourself pointed out bunch of shortcomings. How can you point out his faults and then question when I say there's room for improvement.

To directly answer your question:

1. He can get stronger (I've said from the day he was drafted I worried about how thin he is)
2. He can become a better tackler
3. He can work on his technique rather than relying on his athleticism

He could become stronger. He could become a better tackler. He can work on technique. I don't disagree. Doesn't mean that he will though. We can only hope.

Can he be a good player? sometimes he can. But sometimes he can go out and have real stinkers like yesterday. He needs to be more consistent. It was not a knee jerk reaction. it was calling a spade a spade. For that game and that game only.
 

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All the doom and gloom is making me sick. Stop watching!!! Find another team!!! I've been a lurker here for a few season. It's hard enough to watch the game but to come and here and read some of the pathetic posts you guys make when a week ago you were saying the exact opposite!! :stick:


Go Cards!! :newcards:
 
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All the doom and gloom is making me sick. Stop watching!!! Find another team!!! I've been a lurker here for a few season. It's hard enough to watch the game but to come and here and read some of the pathetic posts you guys make when a week ago you were saying the exact opposite!! :stick:


Go Cards!! :newcards:

Rather than suggesting people find another team? Wouldn't it be better to do things you yourself can control and not just not come here if it bothers you so much?
 

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Maybe you should go apply for a pro scouting position with an NFL team. I'll tell you why, because you have no clue what you're talking about. Saying DRC got schooled yesterday shows about how much you know. I personally saw him a heart beat away from not once but twice getting a pick 6, The only play I saw him really get taken on was the drag route by Robby White in the 4th quarter. And for your info White is no slouch hes had three str8 1,000 yard seasons. This team has bigger issues then DRC and if he's an issue @ all then the whole roster might as well be. Stick to whatever it is you do and leave the talent evaluating to the pros because it's obviously not your area of expertise.
 

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The Deangelo Hall compariosn is laughable. Hall hasn't covered anybody from day 1 but was fast, that's it. DRC is, and has been, a better CB than Hall ever was/is.
 

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sorry if i got to personal ehh, nature of the beast and passion of a sports fan i guess
 

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