Earl Watson has been fired

[Phrazbit]

Name a larger market than Phoenix that doesn’t already have a team.


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Seattle lost their franchise to OKC. Market does not matter as much as a billionaire who will feed the pockets of the other owners with relocation fees.

 

[devilalum]

Seattle lost their franchise to OKC. Market does not matter as much as a billionaire who will feed the pockets of the other owners with relocation fees.

Seattle lost their team because they suck and that market is smaller than AZ.


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[Folster]

The foam finger was YEARS ago. There is a lot to fault Sarver with, but the embarrassing court side antics are ancient history.

Plus, Cuban had recently came on to the NBA scene and was getting a lot of publicity for his antics and passion.

It worked for Cuban, but even he had to tone it down. I think Sarver was trying to emulate Cuban, and it just didn't work. In fairness he stopped with the antics shortly after that.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Sarver isn’t selling and the team isn’t going anywhere...
Sarver is extremely passionate about this team and more than you and me, he wants to win. He is FAR from perfect and in most regards, he is ill-equipped to be an effective leader of men, let alone what amounts to be kids who are just a year or two out of high school. I happen to know that he is being “coached” by a really good Leadership guru... and he has tried hard to change.
I have no idea why Bled is so bent on leaving... but knowing what I know and the fact that the Suns stepped up and paid him, I really don’t believe it has much to do with Sarver.
As for Earl - I honestly believe he’s still be the coach had he not taken that bizarre “us vs them” approach with the team. He actually lost the players when he did that and gave Sarver/McD no choice but to can him.
I’m not a Sarver apologist... just keeping this real.

 

[Phrazbit]

Seattle lost their team because they suck and that market is smaller than AZ.


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But they lost it to a smaller market because a billionaire bought the team with every intention of moving. And we have the "suck" part covered right now.

 

[Hoop Head]

The Coyotes leaving is different than the Suns, the NBA and NHL are quite different not only in their appeal but how they operate. The NBA is bringing in record revenue while hockey is just there. More NHL teams are losing money than NBA teams and the value of franchises is entirely different. Billionaires actually want to buy NBA teams nowadays and have for the last decade. The value of teams has tripled over the last 15 years in the NBA while the value of NHL teams largely depends on what city it's in and how that market responds to their team already. I would not look to what NHL teams are doing as far as moving to dictate what other leagues will do because they're the #4 sport in the US by a decent margin and it's more likely that Major League Soccer overtakes them than them moving ahead of the NBA or MLB.

Seattle isn't a huge market but it's good sized, larger than some existing NBA markets while the league continues to pay lip service to moving there to keep other cities on their toes. They almost pulled off getting the Kings and probably would have if KJ wasn't Mayor of Sacramento and fought so hard to keep them there and to find either a local buyer or one that wouldn't move the team. Except Seattle to be used to get the Suns a new arena, whether Sarver sells or not. The NFL did the same thing with LA and the NBA has done that in Sacramento already. There have even been rumors that Steve Balmer would take the hit in revenue and move the Clippers there to get out from the Lakers shadow completely. I don't see that happening but it makes for good headlines that will scare other teams into the idea they could lose their NBA franchise.

They've also played in Mexico City for a reason, expansion or moving a team to Mexico is more likely than a European expansion. There is also the possibility of moving another team back to Vancouver since the Canadian market as a whole has gotten much better as of the last decade or so and without a team in Seattle the west coast doesn't have a team close to it to root for.

 

[Hoop Head]

'Sorry, but I disagree with your post. Sarver involved himself in the day-to-day right from the start. And calling attention himself with the fans with the foam finger. Sarver even acted as interim GM with no qualifications for the job. He brought it all on himself. 'Hey, look at me. I have a new toy. An NBA basketball team.'

By the time he took a step back, it was too late. He identified himself as as NBA clown and took our beloved team down with him. The ongoing 3 lead Point Guard approach didn't help.

If you're still holding the foam finger and chicken dance against him then there is nothing that Sarver can do to win you over. If it's too late, why still follow the Suns because clearly you don't support the owner and don't trust him to run a competent franchise?

You back up Colangelo some times and then bash him not long after voicing your support of what he did in the past. Colangelo was much more involved than Sarver has been, naming himself as the coach 3 times and also placing his son in charge of the team despite Bryan not having the credentials to run an NBA team. He learned on the job though and eventually turned into a decent GM just like Jerry became a good owner. It didn't happen overnight with either of them though and they still had plenty of warts when they sold the team back in 2004. Why allow Jerry to learn on the job and not Sarver? You've said you'd welcome Jerry back as owner and wish he still had the team but he never won anything and built an identity of close but not quite for the Suns.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If you're still holding the foam finger and chicken dance against him then there is nothing that Sarver can do to win you over. If it's too late, why still follow the Suns because clearly you don't support the owner and don't trust him to run a competent franchise?

You back up Colangelo some times and then bash him not long after voicing your support of what he did in the past. Colangelo was much more involved than Sarver has been, naming himself as the coach 3 times and also placing his son in charge of the team despite Bryan not having the credentials to run an NBA team. He learned on the job though and eventually turned into a decent GM just like Jerry became a good owner. It didn't happen overnight with either of them though and they still had plenty of warts when they sold the team back in 2004. Why allow Jerry to learn on the job and not Sarver? You've said you'd welcome Jerry back as owner and wish he still had the team but he never won anything and built an identity of close but not quite for the Suns.

It’s been 13 years. Sarver is a grown man. How much more time does he need to learn on the job???

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Cheesebeef]

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WTF?

 

[Mainstreet]

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So is Earl Watson taking credit for changing Devin Booker's life? I think Devin Booker was doing quite nicely on his own.

 

[JCSunsfan]

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Wow. Earl talks like no one else saw anything in Booker but him and his staff. Pretty inflated view of myself. The only way this makes sense is if he is contrasting himself with Jeff Horacek. He seems to be saying that Horny did not believe in Booker but he did.

 

[BC867]

Wow. Earl talks like no one else saw anything in Booker but him and his staff. Pretty inflated view of myself. The only way this makes sense is if he is contrasting himself with Jeff Horacek. He seems to be saying that Horny did not believe in Booker but he did.

Let's not forget that, no matter who the coach was, Devin got his chance to start only because of an injury.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wow. Earl talks like no one else saw anything in Booker but him and his staff. Pretty inflated view of myself. The only way this makes sense is if he is contrasting himself with Jeff Horacek. He seems to be saying that Horny did not believe in Booker but he did.

Exactly. Booker looked like he would be special from the beginning.

 

[Finito]

Lol

 

[TJ]

Earl Watson sounds like he wants to write the biography of Devin Booker. Dude, get lost. Must suck to see your assistant coach laps around you, clown.

 

[hcsilla]

Earl Watson doesn't sound or look like an NBA head coach. He seems loving to play the role of some kind of psychological advisor, big brother/father figure to players but that's it.

X and O, player development, team play: that's not his business.

 

[Hoop Head]

Watson might not be a bad assistant coach in the future, someone who is responsible for building team chemistry, but that's only if he had a good head coach directing him.

I almost felt bad when he got fired because I read an interview with him right before the season started about how he moved downtown so he could be walking distance from the arena and he was also thinking about selling his car because everything he needs is really close to his downtown apartment. Then this interview comes out and he seems oblivious as to why he got he fired, like that was part of the plan all along and it wasn't his fault.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Watson might not be a bad assistant coach in the future, someone who is responsible for building team chemistry, but that's only if he had a good head coach directing him.

I almost felt bad when he got fired because I read an interview with him right before the season started about how he moved downtown so he could be walking distance from the arena and he was also thinking about selling his car because everything he needs is really close to his downtown apartment. Then this interview comes out and he seems oblivious as to why he got he fired, like that was part of the plan all along and it wasn't his fault.

Watson would make a good high school guidance counselor or youth pastor somewhere.

As far as coaching basketball, he has no skills or plans and he does not seem to be able to let someone else do it. Every great team has a great x's and o's philosophy and implements it with accountability and commitment.

BTW, He has taking this firing pretty well hasnt he. He characterizes his time as turning the chemistry around and giving hope. He said only Jerry Sloan and Pop get to stay around long term, giving the clear impression that he is OK with this and he accomplished his purpose. There was no "I think we were just about to turn it around." or "If I had just a little longer, I think we could have made it."

He is a nice guy. A good guy. Just not a basketball coach.

 

[Ronin]

Watson is talking again about his departure from the Phoenix Suns. If anyone is interested.

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[JCSunsfan]

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So. Is this because Ryan did not communicate, or because he could not get a word in?

Sarver should not have even been in the conversation. He should let his GM run the team.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

So. Is this because Ryan did not communicate, or because he could not get a word in?

Sarver should not have even been in the conversation. He should let his GM run the team.

Sarver will always be involved...he is incapable of letting the GM run the show.