ESPN rumor mill says McNabb to Fitz :) (only if Warner retires)

[jf-08]

McNabb for all the love he gets is a really bad QB accuracy wise. 20th in the NFL this year. Gerrard with way more horrible WR's had better accuracy, Alex freaking Smith had better accuracy, Jay 26 INT's Cutler who has even worse WR's had better accuracy, Jason Cambell had better accuracy. Him having horrid accuracy is not just this year, its almost every year.

McNabb doesn't throw many INT's but he is a fumble machine, again not just this year, every year.

Both facts are why Philly fans are so frustrated with him every year. They are the ones that see him missing receivers every week, or not scanning the field to find the open receiver.

Now add in the fact that he is only signed for one more season, and the high likely hood that the 2011 season will be a lockout we have to give him a new contract for a guy that will 35 when his new contract kicks in.

Save the money, draft picks, or what ever else you can get for Boldin and spend it on Defense.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I could only hope this rumor to be true assuming Warner retires.

Unfortunetly I Lienart isn't the answer.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Good deep ball would not do much in our system. You need receivers who can get separation for that to work.

Or one receiver that can take the ball from 2 if it is just thrown in the air high enough.

 

[TheHopToad]

People in Minnesota are speculating about McNabb going to the Vikings if Favre retires (again)...

I'd rather he go there...

 

[Black Jesus]

Sign McNabb to 2 year deal. Draft Sam Bradford.

 

[RedStorm]

I would rather focus on getting someone to backup ML besides St.P.

 

[TheHopToad]

Sign McNabb to 2 year deal. Draft Sam Bradford.

Bradford won't be there by the time it's our turn. Some mocks have him as high as #5.

Who is your second choice? Don't say Tebow...

 

[seesred]

No more 2-3 year starters. We need to have Matt do it and bring in someone who has expierance (Not a 36 year old or higher) to give Matt someone he has to beat for the job. And I dont mean the Saint!

GBR
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[Cards_Campos]

Yes this is ONLY if WARNER retires. I want Warner to stay for 3 more years if possible. I say we dress Warner up like the Michilin(sp?) Man he can absorb some of those hits.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Eagles fans have been pondering life without Donovan McNabb for years, but now there's a pretty good chance he ends up with another team. McNabb's heading into the final year of his contract, and at age 33, the Eagles could still expect to land a first-day draft pick for their starting quarterback. Let's take a quick look at the leading candidates for McNabb's services:

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1. Minnesota Vikings: I think this is a no-brainer for Brad Childress if Brett Favre retires. And by trading for McNabb, you'd basically be blocking Favre from changing his mind and trying to return to Minneapolis. John Clayton said on ESPNEWS on Tuesday that the Vikings will make a play for McNabb if Favre walks away. He thinks that the Vikes might be willing to trade the No. 62 overall pick for McNabb. Something tells me, though, the Eagles will be asking for a first-rounder. By the way, McNabb's old quarterbacks coach at Syracuse is now in the same position with the Vikings.

2. Arizona Cardinals: If Kurt Warner retires, which he's expected to do, the Cardinals would be in the mix. Matt Leinart hasn't done anything to convince coaches or fans that he's ready to take over the team. You'd be safer going with McNabb.

3. Cleveland Browns: The new general manager is Tom Heckert, who spent years with McNabb in Philly. I also know that Heckert's a huge supporter of Kevin Kolb. And the Browns wouldn't have to give up quite as much for an unproven quarterback such as Kolb.

 

[Unsterblich856]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/01/27/expect-leinart-not-a-qb-blockbuster/

There's next to no chance McNabb will be the QB of the Cardinals in 2010. 2011 may be a different story.

I think McNabb is a great person. He's hilarious and can handle the most bipolar fans in the US. One major problem with him is his favorite target is the ground near a receiver's feet, and I've noticed this happens a lot when he throws out of shotgun.

 

[joeshmo]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/01/27/expect-leinart-not-a-qb-blockbuster/

There's next to no chance McNabb will be the QB of the Cardinals in 2010. 2011 may be a different story.

I think McNabb is a great person. He's hilarious and can handle the most bipolar fans in the US. One major problem with him is his favorite target is the ground near a receiver's feet, and I've noticed this happens a lot when he throws out of shotgun.

If Urban who is usually very careful with his wording is that passionate of the fact that we will not be doing a any type of blockbuster QB deal, AKA McNabb, then we should all believe it.

 

[Totally_Red]

Cardinals are not in a position to cough up draft choices for a quarterback, not when they have so many needs on defense. The Bears tried that route last season without success. Now, if and when Donovan becomes a free agent, I'd make an effort to sign him.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Urban doesn't know for sure! In my opinion if Mcnabb can be had for a decent pick no way the Cards say no. Of course all this if Warner retires...so my thinking is....Urban knows Warner is coming back.

There is no way this orginazation just goes with Leinart all out and then expects the fans to jump aboard. 4 home games last year almost didnt sell out and we were good!!!!

Obviously I am not a huge Leinart fan....but it is based on what he has done and what WHIZ will let him do!! Leinart isnt going to make our WR's better!..And in fact I bet Fitz and company dont have alot of confidence in Leinart. Ask Boldin if his passes are crips, straight and on the money?

But this Team has a 2 year window maybe and that is with a proven QB.....Leinart may turn out OK...but we cant win games where he and/or Whiz pussyfoot around on offense and get 200 yards passing and try to win games 20-17. It wont happen and it definately wont get us to the Superbowl.

Leinart is good enough to get us beat 20-17 by the decent teams in the league. Warner would win 95% of those games.

We will see. But I bet a BIG name QB comes here if Warner leaves...Lets just hope Warner doesn't!!!

 

[CardLogic]

If Urban who is usually very careful with his wording is that passionate of the fact that we will not be doing a any type of blockbuster QB deal, AKA McNabb, then we should all believe it.

Word.

Over the past several off-seasons, even before and especially since Whisenhunt's arrival in Arizona, the "inside" sources, i.e.- Urban, Somers; even Rod Graves and Mike Bidwill themselves; have been pretty straight forward about the Cardinals off-season plans. It has not been a situation where the club has said one thing and then done another. Information that has been given has generally been true to the actions that followed.

I agree, there is no reason to think otherwise in this instance.

If Warner steps away, expect the Cards to sign some sort of veteran quarterback, but one that will likely be told he will begin behind Leinart on the depth chart. Expect the Cards to use a mid-round draft pick (or at least seriously consider it) to draft a quarterback.
But mostly, if Warner retires, expect Matt Leinart to be behind center in 2010

 

[Pariah]

QB Roster
1. Matt Leinart
2. Charlie Batch
3. Late round draft pick

 

[Cards_Campos]

Does anyone honestly here think Leinart can audible consistantly into a positive play?

What about throwing a 40 yard pass down field over someones shoulder..Crisply!?!

What about reading the complex blitzes and or coverages?

What about throwing to a spot and letting the reciever make the play?

I know Leinart was good in college and he has shown some positive plays. But overall we would have to play like the Titans did last year and the Jets this year. Throw when we HAVE too and run the ball better. ANd play good fundamental defense! If we had the Jets defense I would say GO Leinart. But everyone saw the Green Bay game....If Leinart started that whole game...we lose 45-24.....Easily....and No way you can say otherwise. Does Warner have those games all the time? NO...But he has them enough to be DEADLY in a 3 game PLAYOFF FOrmat..and to get us to 9-10 wins a year!

 

[Cards_Campos]

Leinart and Batch would be like having Jeff Blake and Josh McCown. In fact McCown has had some unbelievable games for us!!! But they got us no where!!

 

[Pariah]

Cards_Campos, you should buckle your seatbelt because next year is going to be a bumpy ride for you. I don't think it's very likely the Cards get anyone else to start at QB other than Leinart if Warner retires.

 

[joeshmo]

Does anyone honestly here think Leinart can audible consistantly into a positive play?

What about throwing a 40 yard pass down field over someones shoulder..Crisply!?!

What about reading the complex blitzes and or coverages?

What about throwing to a spot and letting the reciever make the play?

I could just as easily put the name of one of the most innacurate most fumble prone starting QB's over the last ten years. Playing opposite one of the best D's over the last 10 years. That name being McNabb.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Does anyone honestly here think Leinart can audible consistantly into a positive play?

What about throwing a 40 yard pass down field over someones shoulder..Crisply!?!

What about reading the complex blitzes and or coverages?

What about throwing to a spot and letting the reciever make the play?

I know Leinart was good in college and he has shown some positive plays. But overall we would have to play like the Titans did last year and the Jets this year. Throw when we HAVE too and run the ball better. ANd play good fundamental defense! If we had the Jets defense I would say GO Leinart. But everyone saw the Green Bay game....If Leinart started that whole game...we lose 45-24.....Easily....and No way you can say otherwise. Does Warner have those games all the time? NO...But he has them enough to be DEADLY in a 3 game PLAYOFF FOrmat..and to get us to 9-10 wins a year!

Yes I do. Am I one of the few Cardinal fans that actually REMEMBER Leinarts rookie year? Maybe he won't work out, maybe he will. We fans should just support ALL the players and see how this all plays out. I won't put too much stock in his "garbage" time this year or the preseason games. Let's just all wait and see how this thing pans out.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Does anyone honestly here think Leinart can audible consistantly into a positive play?

What about throwing a 40 yard pass down field over someones shoulder..Crisply!?!

What about reading the complex blitzes and or coverages?

What about throwing to a spot and letting the reciever make the play?

I know Leinart was good in college and he has shown some positive plays. But overall we would have to play like the Titans did last year and the Jets this year. Throw when we HAVE too and run the ball better. ANd play good fundamental defense! If we had the Jets defense I would say GO Leinart. But everyone saw the Green Bay game....If Leinart started that whole game...we lose 45-24.....Easily....and No way you can say otherwise. Does Warner have those games all the time? NO...But he has them enough to be DEADLY in a 3 game PLAYOFF FOrmat..and to get us to 9-10 wins a year!

About your first bolded statement: Even Kurt didn't do it crisply this year. We had a HUGE drop off in deep passes this year. Something was just off.

About your second bolded statement: It's a timing offense. It takes any QB practice. Even McNabb couldn't come in here and hit our recievers in timing plays like Kurt did. If you watch tape of Kurts first year starting with Larry and this past season you will see a HUGE difference. This year the ball is almost at the recievers hands before they even look. The first year (practicing every day) it wasn't like that. It takes lots and lots of practice to get this offense down. Leinart can do it but we have to give him the time. I think that's a big reason Leinart will get the nod over any other QB. ANYBODY would have difficult throwing in our offense.

 

[chickenhead]

Well, we can't blame the Cardinals if they want to see once and for all what they in Leinart. All of this speculation is predicated on Warner retiring AND the Cardials not believing that Leinart can do the job NOW.

Let's just hope that if Favre retires and McNabb goes to Minnesota, that Favre doesn't get his release and come knocking on the Cards' door. I think this board would explode.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

I could just as easily put the name of one of the most innacurate most fumble prone starting QB's over the last ten years. Playing opposite one of the best D's over the last 10 years. That name being McNabb.

Nowhere in the post you quoted was McNabb mentioned.

5 NFC championships in 11 years with no recievers and one good running back who was a better reciever than runner. That hasn't earned your respect.

Warner was also a fumbling machine before that got corrected in the past couple years (for the most part).

Two consecutive Division titles and a Superbowl appearance is clearly having rose-colored effects on this board.

Hopefully, Matt is the answer, but if not Donovan is the only other name that comes to mind.

 

[CardinalChris]

Nowhere in the post you quoted was McNabb mentioned.

5 NFC championships in 11 years with no recievers and one good running back who was a better reciever than runner. That hasn't earned your respect.

Warner was also a fumbling machine before that got corrected in the past couple years (for the most part).

Two consecutive Division titles and a Superbowl appearance is clearly having rose-colored effects on this board.

Hopefully, Matt is the answer, but if not Donovan is the only other name that comes to mind.

First, please remember this is a thread about McNabb becoming a Cardinal. I think Joe, and others on this thread, are soured on McNabb not so much because of his abilities, but because it would cost multiple pick (2+) first rounders and probably a player or two to get McNabb from Philly. He isn't bringing THAT much value to a new team.