Evaluating James Jones as acting GM

[1Sun]

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Can't say I disagree, though at least with Oubre coming back, this can be seen as a lateral move, whereas with the Grizzlies leftovers they were getting last night, they basically were acquiring three more Troy Daniels...

 

[Yuma]

Can't say I disagree, though at least with Oubre coming back, this can be seen as a lateral move, whereas with the Grizzlies leftovers they were getting last night, they basically were acquiring three more Troy Daniels...

Yeah I like this trade a lot better.

 

[Hoop Head]

There has been a lot of talk league-wide about James Jones just helping his buddy LeBron. I have no doubt Sarver has heard it. I remember him saying once that he regularly reads hoopsype. Maybe he did not want that accusation again. Or maybe once he read it and found out that LeBron had actually called James Jones, and Sarver was not happy about it.

I have given up being worried about Sarver's interference. It just is. It is now more interesting to see what he does and speculate why. I am not a Sarver fan, but if my owner hates the Lakers, I am ok with it.

That's a reasonable outlook, I think. Hoping for Silver to get involved is like wishing Santa Clause was real. It's not happening and anybody waiting on that is wasting their time. This is the team we have, the Phoenix Suns owned by Robert Sarver. I don't think he's going to do anything that stupid within the next month while waiting for the city council vote. That's part of why he blocked a deal from happening with the Lakers, even though there wasn't much of a deal to make if they weren't willing to trade one of their young players.

This was far from the worst trade we could have made. Who knows how Oubre and Rivers will pan out here but I'm open to giving them a chance because they have to contribute more than Ariza. If nothing else they aren't Igor's chosen ones so he shouldn't give them 30+ minutes a night if they aren't producing.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Many Laker's fans were convinced we were just going to waive Ariza so that the Lakers could sign him.

 

[Ronin]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...es-chandler-buyout-recent-success/2357940002/

 

[95pro]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...es-chandler-buyout-recent-success/2357940002/

Also says that Rivers didn't want to be part of a rebuilding team.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Also says that Rivers didn't want to be part of a rebuilding team.

Rivers is stupid. The way was wide open for him to become a starting pg in the NBA with an improving team.

 

[Hoop Head]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...es-chandler-buyout-recent-success/2357940002/

Decent article, nothing new but a nice recap of sorts. I'd still like to know more of the reasoning behind waiving Canaan. He hasn't signed elsewhere and he hasn't drawn any interest either so what was the rush? I'd like to know why that happened when it did and how it did. It seemed like a good move, at the time, and then Booker got hurt and it looked questionable. The Suns social media teams also released positive stuff about thanking Canaan for his time here so if he was unhappy here and asked out that would seem odd. I guess we'll hear something or we won't and as more time passes it seems like we won't.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Decent article, nothing new but a nice recap of sorts. I'd still like to know more of the reasoning behind waiving Canaan. He hasn't signed elsewhere and he hasn't drawn any interest either so what was the rush? I'd like to know why that happened when it did and how it did. It seemed like a good move, at the time, and then Booker got hurt and it looked questionable. The Suns social media teams also released positive stuff about thanking Canaan for his time here so if he was unhappy here and asked out that would seem odd. I guess we'll hear something or we won't and as more time passes it seems like we won't.

I think the fact he hasn’t signed elsewhere is all the answer you need.

 

[95pro]

Decent article, nothing new but a nice recap of sorts. I'd still like to know more of the reasoning behind waiving Canaan. He hasn't signed elsewhere and he hasn't drawn any interest either so what was the rush? I'd like to know why that happened when it did and how it did. It seemed like a good move, at the time, and then Booker got hurt and it looked questionable. The Suns social media teams also released positive stuff about thanking Canaan for his time here so if he was unhappy here and asked out that would seem odd. I guess we'll hear something or we won't and as more time passes it seems like we won't.

I think it was because he sucked.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Decent article, nothing new but a nice recap of sorts. I'd still like to know more of the reasoning behind waiving Canaan. He hasn't signed elsewhere and he hasn't drawn any interest either so what was the rush? I'd like to know why that happened when it did and how it did. It seemed like a good move, at the time, and then Booker got hurt and it looked questionable. The Suns social media teams also released positive stuff about thanking Canaan for his time here so if he was unhappy here and asked out that would seem odd. I guess we'll hear something or we won't and as more time passes it seems like we won't.

I think the story about Canaan was not why we waived him, but why he was on the roster in the first place. I think we determined after his injury last year that we were going to give him a legit shot to make the team. He ended up starting because of our youth at pg. But the only reason he was on the roster was that we wanted to do him a favor after that injury.

 

[Errntknght]

I recall reading a short blurb that NAZ Suns have acquired Canaan, no idea what it portends for the main team.

 

[SirStefan32]

I recall reading a short blurb that NAZ Suns have acquired Canaan, no idea what it portends for the main team.

I thought they traded the right to Canaan to San Antoni's G-League team.

EDIT:
The Suns acquired the returning player rights to forwards Livio Jean-Charles and Hollis Thompson from the Spurs in exchange for the returning player rights to guards Isaiah Canaan and Josh Gray.

https://northernarizona.gleague.nba.com/news/naz-suns-complete-trade-with-austin-spurs/

 

[95pro]

I'm not sure who gets credit here but the Suns did a great job of getting rid of the junk of "NBA" players we had.

Also Sarver is paying big $ to get them gone.

We actually have some NBA talent and some starter talent to surround Ayton, Booker and Warren.

The length we acquired this year is awesome. A tall and mobile center. A great wing in Bridges who plays D and shoots good. The trade that got rid of Ariza to bring in Oubre.

And lets hope Jackson can fix his outside shooting woes.

We have 7 solid players right there.

Mix in Crawford and Holmes, very good 2nd string players who provide a lot given their minutes played.

 

[slinslin]

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Bill Simmons is unarguably the most incompetent NBA "journalist"

If you value solid information the best thing to do is to blacklist Bill Simmons.

 

[elindholm]

Bill Simmons is unarguably the most incompetent NBA "journalist"

That's an exaggeration, but I think it is true that he let his celebrity get to his head, and he's now more interested in getting his name out there than he is in knowing what he's talking about.

 

[Hoop Head]

Bill Simmons is unarguably the most incompetent NBA "journalist"

If you value solid information the best thing to do is to blacklist Bill Simmons.

He's not an NBA journalist anymore and hasn't been close to that since he left ESPN. Once he joined HBO and was cancelled within a month or two he hasn't done a lot of anything other than host a podcast. He's a fan with an audience. Calling him a journalist at this point is misrepresenting him.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That's an exaggeration, but I think it is true that he let his celebrity get to his head, and he's now more interested in getting his name out there than he is in knowing what he's talking about.

Agreed when he was with ESPN he was pretty solid. Since then I think he is just trying to drive traffic to his portal by being over the top.

 

[Raindog]

I'm not sure who gets credit here but the Suns did a great job of getting rid of the junk of "NBA" players we had.

Also Sarver is paying big $ to get them gone.

We actually have some NBA talent and some starter talent to surround Ayton, Booker and Warren.

The length we acquired this year is awesome. A tall and mobile center. A great wing in Bridges who plays D and shoots good. The trade that got rid of Ariza to bring in Oubre.

And lets hope Jackson can fix his outside shooting woes.

We have 7 solid players right there.

Mix in Crawford and Holmes, very good 2nd string players who provide a lot given their minutes played.

Yeah, really it's not a bad 9 man rotation - a little young and inexperienced. But there is definitely some talent there. Assuming the coaching and development is up to snuff, the future should be good. And maybe we can even add a couple more decent pieces in this next off-season. Certainly, we will have another probably high pick to do so, plus maybe add a decent FA... who will actually WANT to be here for more than just a paycheck.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well. The waiving of players gives me the impression that James Jones might understand how to put a roster together and the importance of team chemistry. McD was a former scout that looked at players more as individual talent. Just an initial take. Might not be correct.

 

[SirStefan32]

Well. The waiving of players gives me the impression that James Jones might understand how to put a roster together and the importance of team chemistry. McD was a former scout that looked at players more as individual talent. Just an initial take. Might not be correct.

I think you are spot on. McD did not understand the human side of things. In my opinion, that was always his biggest weakness.

 

[Willie D]

I think LeBron James Jones is doing an exceptional job, as reflected in the Suns' entry on BBRef:

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[JCSunsfan]

I think you are spot on. McD did not understand the human side of things. In my opinion, that was always his biggest weakness.

McD would look at the draft or free agency and get whatever deal he could find. I he had an empty spot, he might fill it with two or three players. If he could not decide between two players, he would get both. He also hung on to those players long after it was clear they were not working here. It was great for gathering assets but bad for developing chemistry. It produced a crowded roster of mediocre or young players without enough minutes to develop them.

 

[95pro]

I’m thinking McD tried to emulate Ainge

 

[BC867]

Bump. It is Sunday the 23rd and an unnamed MGP has kept himself out of the news.

And the Suns won four in a row, lost a close game in triple overtime and came up short less than 24 hours later. A ray of Suns-shine.

Unfortunately, without the addition of a skilled distributor and a Head Coach who can react to situations and then create, we are (as everyone knows) not yet staffed to make too much happen.

But it feels better now than before.