Exit interviews for Suns after 2014-15 season

[BC867]

According to FoxSports.com, it was McDonough who made the comment about
size/rebounding/shooting/leadership.

I think he should get Executive of the Year. Oops, I left out a word. Executive of the Wasted Year.

And Jeff, of course, is a willing partner, especially with his earlier quote, "We're going to keep trying until we get it right."

There's a confidence booster.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/st...ng-to-improve-size-shooting-leadership-041615

 

[sunsfan88]

To get good through the draft, you need to have decent picks. Suns are stuck in the proverbial purgatory. Drafting at #13 is not going to produce significant movement.

Play Archie, TJ, and Len. Bogdanovic too, when he gets here. Screw the winning, screw the Bledsoe/ Dragic/ IT/ Knight types who will win you a few games but not make you a very good team. You develop players while probably getting good picks. It's no coincidence that the Suns' best asset is the guy they picked when they got that #5 pick.

But what about the "winning atmosphere" we create by being mediocre and not being really bad like the TWolves or Orlando?

Your completely right and that's the reason why despite being worse than us record, Timberwolves and Magic fans are more happy and content with their teams than Suns fans.

 

[Phrazbit]

But what about the "winning atmosphere" we create by being mediocre and not being really bad like the TWolves or Orlando?

Your completely right and that's the reason why despite being worse than us record, Timberwolves and Magic fans are more happy and content with their teams than Suns fans.

So much so that the Timberwolves were 2nd to last in attendance. They sure love that team!

I think you need to stop pretending that a some message board posters who are fans of video game style GMing provide a true pulse of the fan base.

 

[SirStefan32]

So much so that the Timberwolves were 2nd to last in attendance. They sure love that team!

I think you need to stop pretending that a some message board posters who are fans of video game style GMing provide a true pulse of the fan base.

Tell me you wouldn't trade our roster for their roster?

 

[Phrazbit]

Tell me you wouldn't trade our roster for their roster?

As long as they keep Rubio...

But even so, its not about roster for roster.

The idea that they're some astute franchise who knows how to build and that their fan base is excited is utterly baseless. They're a poorly ran team that has sucked for virtually their entire existence, their current glimmer of hope only exists because Kevin Love forced their hand.

There are a lot of franchises out there whom I'm jealous of, who have front offices that are worthy of envy. The bumbling Wolves and Magic are not among them, and SF88s notion that they have fan bases who are brimming with excitement is flat out false.

 

[sunsfan88]

Tell me you wouldn't trade our roster for their roster?

Not to mention their fans are lot more excited for Wiggins and maybe even Lavine than any of our fans are about any of our players. And it's not wrong, Wiggins by himself has more value than anyone on our team and its not close.

 

[mojorizen7]

To get good through the draft, you need to have decent picks. Suns are stuck in the proverbial purgatory. Drafting at #13 is not going to produce significant movement.

Play Archie, TJ, and Len. Bogdanovic too, when he gets here. Screw the winning, screw the Bledsoe/ Dragic/ IT/ Knight types who will win you a few games but not make you a very good team. You develop players while probably getting good picks. It's no coincidence that the Suns' best asset is the guy they picked when they got that #5 pick.

Checkmate. (Cheese already used bingo)

 

[JCSunsfan]

According to FoxSports.com, it was McDonough who made the comment about

size/rebounding/shooting/leadership.



I think he should get Executive of the Year. Oops, I left out a word. Executive of the Wasted Year.



And Jeff, of course, is a willing partner, especially with his earlier quote, "We're going to keep trying until we get it right."



There's a confidence booster.



http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/st...ng-to-improve-size-shooting-leadership-041615

Yep. You are right. It was McD.

 

[Mainstreet]

According to FoxSports.com, it was McDonough who made the comment about
size/rebounding/shooting/leadership.

I think he should get Executive of the Year. Oops, I left out a word. Executive of the Wasted Year.

And Jeff, of course, is a willing partner, especially with his earlier quote, "We're going to keep trying until we get it right."

There's a confidence booster.

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/st...ng-to-improve-size-shooting-leadership-041615

Where was this focus the last two seasons?

 

[BC867]

Where was this focus the last two seasons?

Exactly! McDonough and Hornacek are first-timers in their jobs and have not gotten off to a good 2-year start. 'Sad but true.

And the way they gutted the roster after a half season and are getting ready to do it again. That cries out desperation.

The lack of cohesion among the players shows weak planning and weak leadership.

And the GM and Head Coach committed to their multi-tweener Guard experiment and closing games with light players moving up to heavier positions (more of the same) offers no hope for the future.

They took a fork in the road and it was a mistake. They both should be held accountable. As should the owner who condones it.

 

[Catlover]

Exactly! McDonough and Hornacek are first-timers in their jobs and have not gotten off to a good 2-year start. 'Sad but true.

And the way they gutted the roster after a half season and are getting ready to do it again. That cries out desperation.

The lack of cohesion among the players shows weak planning and weak leadership.

And the GM and Head Coach committed to their multi-tweener Guard experiment and closing games with light players moving up to heavier positions (more of the same) offers no hope for the future.

They took a fork in the road and it was a mistake. They both should be held accountable. As should the owner who condones it.

'Sad but your opinion. Two years ago we were arguably in the worst shape in the league and even teams like Utah and Minnesota were well above us in both veteran leadership and young talent. Now, perhaps those teams still have a brighter future than we do, but we have some young talent and we have some future assets. Wherever that puts us it's still far better than no young talent and no stockpiled picks, which was our starting point when McD and Jeff were hired.

 

[Phrazbit]

For some posters its like the 2012/13 season never happened.

How quickly the perspective of what its REALLY like to be in a terrible situation goes out the window.

 

[Errntknght]

The thing about Blanks and Hunter was that they were obviously bad. Now we have McD and Hornacek who are not so obvious, but as BC said they chose a bad fork and by all the signs they still believe it was a good fork and have every intention of sticking with it. I expect them to make enough good tactical moves to get us into the playoffs but that is just going to prolong their clinging to their misbegotten strategy.

 

[SirStefan32]

The thing about Blanks and Hunter was that they were obviously bad. Now we have McD and Hornacek who are not so obvious, but as BC said they chose a bad fork and by all the signs they still believe it was a good fork and have every intention of sticking with it. I expect them to make enough good tactical moves to get us into the playoffs but that is just going to prolong their clinging to their misbegotten strategy.

You nailed it! It's not that they screwed up, but it's that they refuse to admit they screwed up and they continue to go in the same direction.

I remember leading a project a couple of years ago. Everything went as planned, but results were opposite of what we had hoped for. We sat down, looked at the data, and we admitted that it wasn't working. We brainstormed other ideas, came up with a plan B which worked like a charm. It ended up being the most successful project by the end of the year, and it happened because we had enough sense to admit our initial approach was wrong.

If we were McD and Hornacek, we would have fired three major players and replaced them with three new ones hoping it would have created different results.

 

[sunsfan88]

The thing about Blanks and Hunter was that they were obviously bad. Now we have McD and Hornacek who are not so obvious, but as BC said they chose a bad fork and by all the signs they still believe it was a good fork and have every intention of sticking with it. I expect them to make enough good tactical moves to get us into the playoffs but that is just going to prolong their clinging to their misbegotten strategy.

Exactly. I wish Sarver would step up and say "Hey Jeff, hey Ryan, so I just went into the future and WOW this dual PG crap is just that....crap! So lets ditch that brilliant idea and build a normal team".

 

[WildBB]

Exactly. I wish Sarver would step up and say "Hey Jeff, hey Ryan, so I just went into the future and WOW this dual PG crap is just that....crap! So lets ditch that brilliant idea and build a normal team".

They need a true pure shooting guard. Not sure Goodwin is that guy.

Three guard rotation with Bledsoe, Knight and ?

Goodwin can fight for SF minutes.

 

[Mainstreet]

Exactly! McDonough and Hornacek are first-timers in their jobs and have not gotten off to a good 2-year start. 'Sad but true.

And the way they gutted the roster after a half season and are getting ready to do it again. That cries out desperation.

The lack of cohesion among the players shows weak planning and weak leadership.

And the GM and Head Coach committed to their multi-tweener Guard experiment and closing games with light players moving up to heavier positions (more of the same) offers no hope for the future.

They took a fork in the road and it was a mistake. They both should be held accountable. As should the owner who condones it.

I look at it like, McDonough is cashing in his chips without regard to player positions.

Why no talk about the Mercury draft and Diana Taurasi getting injured in Russia? No one posting about it on the Mercury forum.

 

[JCSunsfan]

They need a true pure shooting guard. Not sure Goodwin is that guy.

Three guard rotation with Bledsoe, Knight and ?

Goodwin can fight for SF minutes.

No way. Goodwin is a 2.

 

[Catlover]

No way. Goodwin is a 2.

Is he? I still don't know what position he is best suited for but unless he improves his shot it's difficult to pencil him in as a shooting guard.

 

[Mainstreet]

Is he? I still don't know what position he is best suited for but unless he improves his shot it's difficult to pencil him in as a shooting guard.

I believe Goodwin should play as a 2 but he had some moments as a PG in which he was surprisingly composed before the the Suns brought in A.J. Price. This move seemed to destroy his confidence. Here is what Paul Coro said about him today in a Q&A.

Goodwin played in every game but one after the All-Star break and got pretty decent minutes for the last month of the season. He is different than the normal second-year player because he is still younger than most rookies at 20. Goodwin still has a lot to learn about the game but feels like he's ready to contribute now. He made steps with his off-ball defense and his perimeter shot. With more improvement and that NBA-ready skill to get to the rim and a long, rangy body, Goodwin can be a rotation player on a better team. He upset the staff a little bit with his out-of-turn comments but there was not much wrong about what he said. Just out of place for it to come from a guy still working on his game. He does work hard so that gives him a chance. He was a good value pick at No. 29.

It's easy to forget he is only 20.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/04/20/phoenix-suns-chat-with-paul-coro/26070697/