Fire Petzing now

[slanidrac16]

Kliff was the problem.
Now Petzing is the problem

Okay…….

 

[Solar7]

Kliff was the problem.
Now Petzing is the problem

Okay…….

It can be both, although I'm guessing you're pinning a lot of this on Kyler, which I do too.

 

[Broseph]

This was the most horrific OC performance I've ever seen. And I've seen some bad after 23 years in the stands.

Shotgun passes on 3rd and 4th and 1? No designed runs or RPO for Kyler? Running the ball on 3rd and 34, down heavy? Squandering a rare pick by the inept defense to put them back on the field AGAIN? Running the ball well but not then incorporating play action and rollouts? Not drawing up plays to free MHJ? Just a horrible offensive playcalling strategy, and it isn't just this game. It's been constant. He isn't good at this. He's not even below average at this.

I can give Rallis a pass because this is the least talented defense in the league. By far. Exposed as hell today, but Petzing did them no favors. Kyler didn't either, but ffs Michael Wilson catch a ball. Even on his nice catch that he eventually fumbled, he bobbled the catch. Kyler has his flaws, but when the OC can't even use him correctly it becomes glaring. Malpractice.

We can't put a game together at all, and our offense can't keep the worst defense in the league off the field. Petzing needs fired, immediately. I can call a better game and that's only partly hyperbole.

It was embarrassing in the stadium today. Worst I've felt at a game in a long time. I'm rowdy, normally. But there was very little to cheer for. Very little. God bless my wife for still yelling for the defense late in the game while I just sighed over and over.

Gutted by this game.

The fact that we could hardly move the ball on the worst statistical defense in the league is absolutely mind-blowing.

 

[gimpy]

The fact that we could hardly move the ball on the worst statistical defense in the league is absolutely mind-blowing.

I agree.

 

[602 Native]

The fact that we could hardly move the ball on the worst statistical defense in the league is absolutely mind-blowing.

We moved it the first drive of the game with ease which is why I pin it on the scheme later in the game.

We have been able to do this every game.

 

[vince56]

You must be registered for see images attach

I'm not sure the play calling is the issue.

You could argue we should have run on 4th and 1. Fine. I argue the ball should already be in the air by the time this frame was shot. If Kyler passes now, defenders are already closing. He did throw this, and it did not connect, because he was so late.

Kyler doesn’t anticipate well and I bet it’s eating him up. He’s a smart guy, I be he’s as frustrated with his processing speed on the field as any of us are with him.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The Cards do have some highly regarded up and coming young coaches on the offensive side of the ball. #15 and 17(I’m related to him, my cousins nephew, whatever that makes me,lol)

NFL Coaching Candidates: 25 Coaches Under 40 to Watch in 2024

Meet the NFL's top young coaches under 40! From Zach Orr's defensive strategies to Bobby Slowik's offensive prowess, discover the next generation poised to become head coaching legends.

www.the33rdteam.com

 

[D-Dogg]

We can't go from "Petzing is great" to "Fire Petzing" in like 2 weeks.

There was lots on that game that was on Kyler. I'm not sure what an OC can do when your QB can't handle man coverage.

Nobody came out of this game with any credit, blame everywhere, not least of which was the staff for a weak game plan, but Petzing is still one of the better OC's in the league.

I've never thought Petzing was great. So there's that.

 

[D-Dogg]

You must be registered for see images attach

I'm not sure the play calling is the issue.

You could argue we should have run on 4th and 1. Fine. I argue the ball should already be in the air by the time this frame was shot. If Kyler passes now, defenders are already closing. He did throw this, and it did not connect, because he was so late.

Kyler doesn’t anticipate well and I bet it’s eating him up. He’s a smart guy, I be he’s as frustrated with his processing speed on the field as any of us are with him.

Naw, on All 22, those DBs are downhill. That's a pick 6 if he throws it with the line bunched up and empty backfired. Sack was not horrible, throw away is the same result.

The playcall of double hitches in empty shotgun on 4th and 1 when you have Connor and Kyler available was malpractice.

 

[D-Dogg]

Petzing certainly deserves blame but don’t forget most QBs can change plays at the line of scrimmage. For good or bad.

If K1 wanted to call his own number on 3rd or 4th and short, I’m sure he has the authority to change the play at the LOS. At least he should. If he’s earned the coaches trust after being 6 years in the league.

Doesn't seem he has the balls to. "Hey coach, I saw something" is an acceptable response.

 

[D-Dogg]

Kliff was the problem.
Now Petzing is the problem

Okay…….

That's literally not what this is about. It is about the reality on the field. I gave KK a ton of grace far longer than necessary. Of course you want to blame Kyler, so I get it. But let's be real. That was uninspired, Madden button mashing playcalling yesterday.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Naw, on All 22, those DBs are downhill. That's a pick 6 if he throws it with the line bunched up and empty backfired. Sack was not horrible, throw away is the same result.

The playcall of double hitches in empty shotgun on 4th and 1 when you have Connor and Kyler available was malpractice.

Nah… that picture is a half or full second layer where Kyler has already waited too long to get the ball out. That’s got to be an immediate hitter so that when those guys turn, like do in the first pic.

 

[vince56]

Naw, on All 22, those DBs are downhill..

You’re not wrong - my contention is Kyler should be a step ahead and know the play better than the DBs defending it and get the ball out BEFORE they can react lol

 

[PlayerHater]

MHJ had 6 targets "2 more than Dortch" while playing from behind all day and going up against one of the worst defenses in the league. I can't believe how much money Kyler and this coaching staff are being paid to put a product like this on the field. People need to stop financially supporting this franchise until they start acting like serious people.

 

[D-Dogg]

Nah… that picture is a half or full second layer where Kyler has already waited too long to get the ball out. That’s got to be an immediate hitter so that when those guys turn, like do in the first pic.

Disagree. He can't throw that, at all.

 

[D-Dogg]

You’re not wrong - my contention is Kyler should be a step ahead and know the play better than the DBs defending it and get the ball out BEFORE they can react lol

We should not have been in that playcall to begin with.

 

[Redsz]

MHJ had 6 targets "2 more than Dortch" while playing from behind all day and going up against one of the worst defenses in the league. I can't believe how much money Kyler and this coaching staff are being paid to put a product like this on the field. People need to stop financially supporting this franchise until they start acting like serious people.

I'm with you. I bought into the vibes this season. They won't be seeing a dime from me until they have a season above .500.

 

[Redsz]

This was the most horrific OC performance I've ever seen. And I've seen some bad after 23 years in the stands.

Shotgun passes on 3rd and 4th and 1? No designed runs or RPO for Kyler? Running the ball on 3rd and 34, down heavy? Squandering a rare pick by the inept defense to put them back on the field AGAIN? Running the ball well but not then incorporating play action and rollouts? Not drawing up plays to free MHJ? Just a horrible offensive playcalling strategy, and it isn't just this game. It's been constant. He isn't good at this. He's not even below average at this.

I can give Rallis a pass because this is the least talented defense in the league. By far. Exposed as hell today, but Petzing did them no favors. Kyler didn't either, but ffs Michael Wilson catch a ball. Even on his nice catch that he eventually fumbled, he bobbled the catch. Kyler has his flaws, but when the OC can't even use him correctly it becomes glaring. Malpractice.

We can't put a game together at all, and our offense can't keep the worst defense in the league off the field. Petzing needs fired, immediately. I can call a better game and that's only partly hyperbole.

It was embarrassing in the stadium today. Worst I've felt at a game in a long time. I'm rowdy, normally. But there was very little to cheer for. Very little. God bless my wife for still yelling for the defense late in the game while I just sighed over and over.

Gutted by this game.

100% I turned the game off after the first quarter. I haven't done that since Steve Wlks was HC. Couldn't believe what I was watching.

 

[urs]

Disagree. He can't throw that, at all.

You can't argue with these guys, a couple weeks ago Kurt Warner and Orlovsky said they were wrong but they held firm that they were right and a HOF QB and another ex-NFL QB were dumb and had no clue. The Kyler haters on this board say that still shots tell the whole story

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

You can't argue with these guys, a couple weeks ago Kurt Warner and Orlovsky said they were wrong but they held firm that they were right and a HOF QB and another ex-NFL QB were dumb and had no clue. The Kyler haters on this board say that still shots tell the whole story

Yep.. and two weeks ago he was an MVP candidate, now they want him traded. Laughable. It's a team sport and our team is horrible.

 

[Gambler]

Yet some were worried about him being stolen as a head coach.

 

[Dayman]

The lack of creativity this week was maddening. The Washington DL manhandled our OL most of the game, and Drew just kept running his standard set. Boring, unimaginative, ineffective football.

 

[dscher]

You must be registered for see images attach

I'm not sure the play calling is the issue.

You could argue we should have run on 4th and 1. Fine. I argue the ball should already be in the air by the time this frame was shot. If Kyler passes now, defenders are already closing. He did throw this, and it did not connect, because he was so late.

Kyler doesn’t anticipate well and I bet it’s eating him up. He’s a smart guy, I be he’s as frustrated with his processing speed on the field as any of us are with him.

I guess schlereth was right after all. Kyler apologists were in full force on this one.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Disagree. He can't throw that, at all.

You’re right… the problem is he CAN’T throw that ball because a) he’s too slow to read the defense and b) he’s too small to make a throw from that position without the ball getting batted down. A good QB who isn’t automatically buried under a line because he’s 5’9 sure as hell can make that throw.

And to be honest, even with his limitations so can he. That ball needs to be fired out immediately and the play is there. And if he can’t, he’s not a starting QB for a team that has any serious intention of being consistently good.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yep.. and two weeks ago he was an MVP candidate, now they want him traded. Laughable. It's a team sport and our team is horrible.

LOL… who the hell besides the biggest Kyler honks were claiming him to be ever an MVP candidate?! Y’all live in bizarro world.