Florio: Scout says Cam Newton looked "terrible".
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I'm all for drafting Peterson. 
I hope we wait to pick a QB and also sign a vet.
I hope we wait to pick a QB and also sign a vet.
Hater.
So did Tom Brady. 
azsportsfan01
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...officially-runs-460-40-yard-dash-at-combine/1
I didn't realize Gabbert had that type of speed.
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I thought he did fine. He showed he is a hell of an athlete size wise and speed wise. He has a terrific arm. His accuracy was off but he was throwing to wrs that he never had worked with before. He also spent some time interviewing with Faulk, Mayock and Eisen on the NFL Network.. He handled himself very well with them.
I was impressed that he took part in all the drills. He will do better at his pro day. He will go top 4 for sure.
I was impressed that he took part in all the drills. He will do better at his pro day. He will go top 4 for sure.
Isn't that the case with all of these guys?
Unsterblich856
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It's not hating if it's true. His accuracy was pretty damn bad.
Chopper0080
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Newton was very inaccurate and a lot of it had to do with his footwork. His footwork was very slow which made him rush his throw, and the end result was that he was consistently inaccurate. Correctable flaw, but just the surface of the areas that he needs to work on. A huge project with great physical ability.
Stout
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So it's okay to bust on a kid like Locker and Mallet for their accuracy, but not on Newton? Oh wait, some people have tried to do that to them, but they excelled at the combine. With unfamiliar WRs. Eh, who am I kidding. I still don't like Locker as a QB prospect. More and more I'm confirming I don't like Newton. The one that's winning me over is Mallet. So far I don't want him at 5, but if he keeps doing well leading up to the draft and clears up the rumors, then I might be convinced. Not over Quinn, of course
WildBB
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Yes, he's not a top 5 prospect. Prob. not even top 15 , buts that's where he'll likely go.
OP
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I actually don't consider myself a hater. Just if you can't hit receivers with no rush that raises red flags for me. Thought he would be very interesting at #5.
Then again, I thought Byron Leftwich was the best QB in the draft in the year he came out and I wanted him over Suggs.
So much for my opinion.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
So it's okay to bust on a kid like Locker and Mallet for their accuracy, but not on Newton? Oh wait, some people have tried to do that to them, but they excelled at the combine. With unfamiliar WRs. Eh, who am I kidding. I still don't like Locker as a QB prospect. More and more I'm confirming I don't like Newton. The one that's winning me over is Mallet. So far I don't want him at 5, but if he keeps doing well leading up to the draft and clears up the rumors, then I might be convinced. Not over Quinn, of course
I think that you will see that both Locker and Newton's inaccuracy will be pretty correctable. I give the nudge to Locker at this point because of his experience against better talent, and the greater amount of exposure that he has had to more complex defenses. Both are decent prospects that will probably go about 15-20 picks higher than they should.
Buckybird
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The Pac-12 better in talent than the SEC? Dont think so...
I dont like Newton or Locker as an NFL QB, but to think Lockers inaccuarcy is correctable, I really find that hard to believe.
I was being facetious because I was called a hater for not liking his chances in the NFL.
Buckybird
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All of us not on the Cam train are all haters.
All I want is the Cards to do is pick the player they fell is the best player for them for years to come & with the fewest chance for failure. IMO Newton isn't on my 1st rd board for that reason.
lobo
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Watched the whole combine today (because I'm stupid).
Here's the NFL Channel scouting skinny from the pros:
1) A lot of QBs, Newton included, weren't dropping into their sets quick enough. They were late with the final step and that made the throw late.
2) A lot of QBs, Newton included, were throwing to the man-on-route and not the spot that best suited the reciever. At the combine actual completions are meaningless, it's the fundamentals and form.
It's QBs at the combine. Only a handful of guys looked good, but without a pass rush baring down it's a lot of academia.
(in full disclosure I don't care for Newton)
Here's the NFL Channel scouting skinny from the pros:
1) A lot of QBs, Newton included, weren't dropping into their sets quick enough. They were late with the final step and that made the throw late.
2) A lot of QBs, Newton included, were throwing to the man-on-route and not the spot that best suited the reciever. At the combine actual completions are meaningless, it's the fundamentals and form.
It's QBs at the combine. Only a handful of guys looked good, but without a pass rush baring down it's a lot of academia.
(in full disclosure I don't care for Newton)
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
Nope the Pac 10 sure isn't better than the SEC, but the Pac 10 is a hell of a lot better than then National Junior College Athletic Assoc. that Newton played against in 2009. Also the while Locker was putting up solid stats in 2007, cam Newton was medical red shirting.
So yes, Locker's 1055 passing attempts throughout his college career vs. the Pac 10 were against better competition than Cam Newton's 292 passing attempts vs. the SEC and his 336 attempts while at Blinn College.
TJ
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Chopper0080
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I don't really get why Cam Newton is so polarizing. He is what he is. He is very athletic, and a gifted thrower of the football who has thrown less than 300 passes vs. Div 1 college football talent. He is very charismatic, and while he has had some character issues in his past, that happens with young men. He is a gifted player that comes with question marks, and has plenty of appeal for a league that is desperate for QB's.
Will he be reached fro in this draft? Sure he will, but that is what you have to do to get QB's these days. You reach and hope that the gamble pays off. He is too risky for me, but I think that he is less of a risk transitioning to an NFL QB than Robert Quinn is transitioning to a NFL OLB.
Will he be reached fro in this draft? Sure he will, but that is what you have to do to get QB's these days. You reach and hope that the gamble pays off. He is too risky for me, but I think that he is less of a risk transitioning to an NFL QB than Robert Quinn is transitioning to a NFL OLB.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
They did a piece on it on NFL Network. Locker's accuracy issues are seen as something that is due to his stride length. Instead of setting with a wide base, taking a short stride and letting the ball go, Locker shows in film that on throws where he is inaccurate he sets his feet narrowly and then strides long which makes his ball sail high and inaccurately.
He acknowledged this was an issue that he has been working on trying to correct and his throwing performance today at the combine showed his progress as he was spot on.
Baseball background.
Different throwing style has burned itself into muscle memory.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
Not today apparently as his muscle memory took the day off, though I get what you are saying.
Elway had a bit of the same problem and he figured it out so it is definitely correctable.
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