For the record (submit your stance)

[SECTION 11]

you dont have to buy it.. it is the truth.

it may not matter to you, but it matters to alot of others.

What exactly may mean a lot to others? Sitting on their asses?

 

[clif]

What exactly may mean a lot to others? Sitting on their asses?

what I stated in my earlier post.

 

[SECTION 11]

Remember you were the one that called my statement LAME.

I did. And the next time I see a local complaining about the game being blacked out, I'll do it all over again.

 

[clif]

I did. And the next time I see a local complaining about the game being blacked out, I'll do it all over again.

and in that particular situation I believe the posting person was saying that the game should not be blacked out only because it was the Pat Tillman tribute game, so it should have meant more than a money.


I personally don't mind the blackout.

My only problem is that some people work on sundays so they cant go even if they wanted to.

 

[Redheart]

Green...

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

and in that particular situation I believe the posting person was saying that the game should not be blacked out only because it was the Pat Tillman tribute game, so it should have meant more than a money.


I personally don't mind the blackout.

My only problem is that some people work on sundays so they cant go even if they wanted to.

Clif, the Phoenix Metro area is what approaching 4 million people?

All you guys work on Sunday?

come on.........

 

[clif]

Clif, the Phoenix Metro area is what approaching 4 million people?

All you guys work on Sunday?

come on.........

not the only reason, but it was a reason I personally could not go to games.

you act like 4 million people automatically means 4 million football fans.




prop 302... had less than 1 million people who actually voted on it.

again more people should go to the games .. no doubt , but it is not that cut and dry.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

not the only reason, but it was a reason I personally could not go to games.

you act like 4 million people automatically means 4 million football fans.




prop 302... had less than 1 million people who actually voted on it.

again more people should go to the games .. no doubt , but it is not that cut and dry.

My point is there are 4million people within a 30-40 minute drive of SDS and the Cards cant get 60,000 people to a game? Any excuse, whether it be work on sundays, broke, etc still cant hold true for ALL 4 million people!

 

[clif]

My point is there are 4million people within a 30-40 minute drive of SDS and the Cards cant get 60,000 people to a game? Any excuse, whether it be work on sundays, broke, etc still cant hold true for ALL 4 million people!

again you act like 4 million people automatically means 4 million football fans.

how many cities in this country actually have professional sports franchises?

edit: also how many fans would you expect with this team winning 1 playoff game in 47 years.

 

[jf-08]

I will state that I will give him the benefit of the doubt based on his past success and so far based on the intensity and competiveness that the team has shown so far. Of course moral victories are never accepted, but there has to be room to accept the positives and criticize the negative.

I do not agree with all of DG's moves, but none of them have been "mind blowers"


I see the team headed in the right direction.

my exact feelings.

GBR

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

again you act like 4 million people automatically means 4 million football fans.

how many cities in this country actually have professional sports franchises?

edit: also how many fans would you expect with this team winning 1 playoff game in 47 years.

Not 4 million football fans but 4 million people to draw from.


How many would I expect? Well if Phx wasn't so apathetic then I would expect sell outs every home game just like other cities that have perrenial bad teams:

Chicago Cubs,
Packers were bad for a dozen years
Cinicnnati Bengals although not always sold out still drew 50,000 a game


they still draw more than 23,000 fans! Thats awful!!!

 

[clif]

Not 4 million football fans but 4 million people to draw from.


How many would I expect? Well if Phx wasn't so apathetic then I would expect sell outs every home game just like other cities that have perrenial bad teams:

Chicago Cubs,
Packers were bad for a dozen years
Cinicnnati Bengals although not always sold out still drew 50,000 a game


they still draw more than 23,000 fans! Thats awful!!!

and those teams started there and were not brought in from another town.

Those fans have grown up with the team. the cards did not start here and have not enjoyed any sort of success since they been here except a 9-7 1 playoff win season.

Green bay.. come on... you can't compare the two.

Chicago cubs.... ummmh they have been around for almost 100 years in chicago.

bengals.... have been to the superbowl before and have had a steady following and have never moved.
It takes way longer

 

[PhxGametime]

Well I couldn't read all the posts but if not attending games was directed to me and that fans will come out when Cardinals win etc. I don't attend games regardless of all the teams I follow - IMO that doesn't make you less of a fan (I have my own reasons, I don't attend games). I wear my gear, watch games on Tv, collect sportscards, listen to sports radio, etc. If you expect me to be on this board 24 hours and read every post - I can't spend all day reading on every single team I follow 24/7.

When D'Backs won Title - I supported, watched most games on Tv (Wildcats National Championship as well) but Suns are the team I follow the most and are addicted to - I don't see many Cardinals fans on Suns board and no one is complaining about that. I have been fan of Cardinals since their arrival in Arizona (I was a youngster) and have been watching games since and will continue to - if you can't respect a fan not attending games, not my problem .

 

[Assface]

DG wasn't my first choice for coach but I'm supporting him because he's our coach and I want to win. I don't agree with everything he does and will voice my displeasure when he does something I don't like. That doesn't make me, or anyone else, anti-Green. I think he has as good a chance as anyone to rebuild this team. He does have a terrific offensive mind and knows how to win.