For those of you that say lose out for a better draft pick ...

[dreamcastrocks]

You know I'm not talking about Manning. Who IMO is far from an exciting or great "franchise" QB. Regardless of his SB victory.

I will take Larry over Manning all day everyday.

Whoa whoa whoa. Larry Fitzgerald or Peyton Manning, and you take Larry?

Larry might be my favorite athlete of all time, but this is crazy.

 

[Shane]

(excluding Leinart as we all know that cutting him was a mistake)

You can't exclude him. He was the light at the end of the tunnel and he just wasn't a franchise QB. Regardless of whether or not cutting him was a mistake.

 

[Mulli]

We haven't bad enough to get a franchise QB. (excluding Leinart as we all know that cutting him was a mistake)

Including Leinart. He would have been a stop gap. Not a franchise. Definitely not on par with E. Manning or Rivers. NEver.

 

[Shane]

Whoa whoa whoa. Larry Fitzgerald or Peyton Manning, and you take Larry?

Larry might be my favorite athlete of all time, but this is crazy.

No. Eli Manning.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I want a can of worms smiley.

Won't need it. Been covered ad nauseum.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No. Eli Manning.

Ok, whew.

In that case, I'll agree.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If Cards drafted Eli, Not only would the team NOT have Fitz, they wouldn't have gotte Warner either. IMO, I thank the stars for Josh McCown and Nate Pool, for they put into the motion the framework for the team's only Superbowl appearance.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You can't exclude him. He was the light at the end of the tunnel and he just wasn't a franchise QB. Regardless of whether or not cutting him was a mistake.

Fine. If you want to include him... you thank your lucky stars if you can draft a franchise changing QB without having a top 5 pick.

 

[Shane]

Ok, whew.

In that case, I'll agree.

I would take Peyton all day and twice on sunday over anyone including Q

 

[Shane]

If Cards drafted Eli, Not only would the team NOT have Fitz, they wouldn't have gotte Warner either. IMO, I thank the stars for Josh McCown and Nate Pool, for they put into the motion the framework for the team's only Superbowl appearance.

Good solid case.

 

[Mulli]

I would take Peyton all day and twice on sunday over anyone including Q

Tom Brady.

 

[Shane]

Tom Brady.

Yes him too. I would take him over Peyton.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Tom Brady.

Waiting until the 5th round isn't the smartest idea either.... (cue Skelton reference)

 

[Shane]

Waiting until the 5th round isn't the smartest idea either.... (cue Skelton reference)

He will be better than Tom Brady

 

[Jersey Girl]

He will be better than Tom Brady

Wouldn't that be a hoot?!

 

[Shane]

Wouldn't that be a hoot?!

It would a whole lot more than a hoot.

 

[Duckjake]

I would take Peyton all day and twice on sunday over anyone including Q

You know if the Cards hadn't won a meaningless game against Atlanta the last week of the 1997 season they might have had Peyton Manning.

But the Bears did a better job of Cardinaling the draft that year. They won two of their last 3 to finish 4-12 while Indy was at 3-13.

 

[Duckjake]

He will be better than Tom Brady

Quit jinxing guys will you. You already sent Daryl Washington to the bench and it was only the incessant complaining from the rest of us on ASFN that got him back out on the field.

 

[chickenhead]

It's fun to talk about on a message board, but landing the number one pick takes a lot of help from other teams and is unpredictable enough to not even warrant thinking about as a strategy unless you have double digit losses and only one or two wins, IMO. Even if the Cards had lost yesterday, the Benglas and Panthers would still be sitting below them, and the Bills and Lions would still be tied with them. Even if the Cards lost yesterday and to the Panthers next week, the Panthers would still have the inside track. The Bengals play San Diego and at Baltimore in the last two weeks.

That's just too many teams you need help from. Regardless of what pick we end up with, there are existing players on this team who need improvement now. No sense in sacrificing real progress for an illusory goal of ineptitude. I'm cheering for the other bottom-feeders ever week, too. But I think the team itself should focus on the pick they ultimately earn.

 

[Shane]

Quit jinxing guys will you. You already sent Daryl Washington to the bench and it was only the incessant complaining from the rest of us on ASFN that got him back out on the field.

 

[Duckjake]

It's fun to talk about on a message board, but landing the number one pick takes a lot of help from other teams and is unpredictable enough to not even warrant thinking about as a strategy unless you have double digit losses and only one or two wins, IMO. Even if the Cards had lost yesterday, the Benglas and Panthers would still be sitting below them, and the Bills and Lions would still be tied with them. Even if the Cards lost yesterday and to the Panthers next week, the Panthers would still have the inside track. The Bengals play San Diego and at Baltimore in the last two weeks.

That's just too many teams you need help from. Regardless of what pick we end up with, there are existing players on this team who need improvement now. No sense in sacrificing real progress for an illusory goal of ineptitude. I'm cheering for the other bottom-feeders ever week, too. But I think the team itself should focus on the pick they ultimately earn.

I think it was Earthsci who pointed out that if you go back and look at the drafts for the last 20 years you can't find a single instance where winning a late season game cost the Cards anything in the draft.

And since they have made an art form of picking the wrong guy in the first round it's probably better that the Cards FO never has the #1 overall.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And since they have made an art form of picking the wrong guy in the first round it's probably better that the Cards FO never has the #1 overall.

there is that. if we had a choice of a levi brown-type or andrew luck, i'd bet we go with levi brown. sigh. maybe the cards are saving us from even greater heartbreak.

 

[earthsci]

that's possible. so we end up with rivers? i'm okay with that.

Or we could have just won the game like we did and draft Phillip Rivers. He's better than Manning. We weren't going to draft a QB that year anyway.

 

[Duckjake]

there is that. if we had a choice of a levi brown-type or andrew luck, i'd bet we go with levi brown. sigh. maybe the cards are saving us from even greater heartbreak.

Heck even when we do make a good move like taking Andre Wadsworth or David Boston it doesn't work out. If the Cards were to somehow get Andrew Luck he'd turn out to be Ryan Leaf II

 

[DeAnna]

... I say kiss my arse! There is NOTHING better than winning a game at home, especially after a seven game skid. It was soooo nice to walk out of the stadium a winner today and not have the opposing fans taunt me and other fans.

Thank you, Cardinals!!! Damn the draft pick!!!!

Hear, hear!!

All those elite draft picks through out the years never really did them much good, did they?