Gambo rumor

[mark1]

For what it's worth




Gambo said last night on the "ASR" that the Suns are 24 to 48 hours away from a trade with an eastern conference team that would bring a back up PG and a back up PF/Center to Phoenix. He did not mention who or what we would be giving up, or what players we would be getting.

 

[NastyOne]

Sign and trade with Indiana for Pollard and one of their PG's possibly?

 

[Kolo]

For what it's worth




Gambo said last night on the "ASR" that the Suns are 24 to 48 hours away from a trade with an eastern conference team that would bring a back up PG and a back up PF/Center to Phoenix. He did not mention who or what we would be giving up, or what players we would be getting.

Gambo gets bashed here, but he's usually pretty accurate on Suns info. I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns are looking at Derek Anderson and maybe Earl Barron from the Heat, maybe for James Jones (or maybe Anderson for the TE and a pick). Anderson's not a pure point, but he's the combo-type we've heard the Suns are looking for. A Miami paper reported this morning Anderson will ask for a buyout if he's not in the rotation next year, and he's only got one year at about $2.5 million left on his deal.

 

[Muggum]

Teams in the Eastern Conference we have traditionally traded with are the Cavs, Celtics, Sixers, and Knicks.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Hmmmm....

IND - Pollard/Jasikevicius
PHI - Hunter/Ollie
CHI - Duhon/Allen
MIA - Anderson/Doleac
MIL - Gadzuric/Bell
TOR - Calderon/Sow

Interesting. We shall see....

 

[Espo]

Maybe this has something to do with it.

The Wizards, at least for now, don't appear to be interested in doing a sign-and-trade, despite that fact that Philadelphia and Phoenix are believed to have approached the Wizards, who already have tendered Jared Jeffries the required one-year qualifying offer.

 

[nowagimp]

I heard that Larry Bird is trying to unload Jamal Tinsley, who has been injury prone. Pollard also doe not fit in if the pacers get Harrington(its what Harrington wants).

No leandro in this trade, I hope. That would mean the suns would lose 2 or their top 4 3pt shooters this off season. Tinsley cant shoot the 3, either(30.9 % career).

 

[arthurracoon]

I also heard Gambo on the radio yesterday saying that the suns are close on the numbers with Diaw's camp, and a deal should get done this summer.

Barbosa's camp, is not as close on the numbers, however.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I heard that Larry Bird is trying to unload Jamal Tinsley, who has been injury prone. Pollard also doe not fit in if the pacers get Harrington(its what Harrington wants).

No leandro in this trade, I hope. That would mean the suns would lose 2 or their top 4 3pt shooters this off season. Tinsley cant shoot the 3, either(30.9 % career).

That can't be it. Tinsley and Pollard for Barbosa and Jones?

We would need more compensation for that trade to go through, for sure.

 

[Gaddabout]

Maybe this has something to do with it.

The Wizards, at least for now, don't appear to be interested in doing a sign-and-trade, despite that fact that Philadelphia and Phoenix are believed to have approached the Wizards, who already have tendered Jared Jeffries the required one-year qualifying offer.

I doubt they'll be dealing Jeffries. If it's the Wizards, it would more likely be along the lines of a Michael Ruffin and Donnell Taylor for James Jones and a second-round pick (or something like that).

For those of you dreaming about Duhon, he had back surgery at the end of May and his recovery is going slower than anticipated. That's a red flag.

If there's a trade in the works, I'm doubting the "wow" factor will be high. Since it's likely the Suns are the ones making the calls, I'm a little fearful of the terms. When you are the ones pushing for a trade, the terms are rarely in your favor.

 

[nowagimp]

That can't be it. Tinsley and Pollard for Barbosa and Jones?

We would need more compensation for that trade to go through, for sure.

that would further strip the suns of not one but 2 of their best 3 pt shooters for a guy who shoots 30.9% from 3, and a guy who misses outside 5 ft. I cant believe DAntoni would divest in shooters in such a way. I just stated, NO Leo I Hope.

 

[Espo]

I doubt they'll be dealing Jeffries. If it's the Wizards, it would more likely be along the lines of a Michael Ruffin and Donnell Taylor for James Jones and a second-round pick (or something like that).

For those of you dreaming about Duhon, he had back surgery at the end of May and his recovery is going slower than anticipated. That's a red flag.

If there's a trade in the works, I'm doubting the "wow" factor will be high. Since it's likely the Suns are the ones making the calls, I'm a little fearful of the terms. When you are the ones pushing for a trade, the terms are rarely in your favor.

I don't think the wow factor needs to be that high. I think if we do really pick up a back up pg and a back up f/c that puts us that much closer to a championship. I will be happy with this offseason if we accomplish that and get Diaw resigned.

 

[jbeecham]

None of those trades sound very good and depending on what we give up they could be a lot worse for our team. I'd rather take my chances with Jay Williams and Lampe. I'd even take a look at Sean Dockery from Duke who went undrafted. He was more of a pure PG for a stacked Duke team. He's got pretty good shooting percentages over the last 2 seasons, but he didn't shoot very much (48%fg, 43% 3pt two yrs ago, 47% fg, 40% 3pt last year).

 

[jlove]

None of those trades sound very good and depending on what we give up they could be a lot worse for our team. I'd rather take my chances with Jay Williams and Lampe. I'd even take a look at Sean Dockery from Duke who went undrafted. He was more of a pure PG for a stacked Duke team. He's got pretty good shooting percentages over the last 2 seasons, but he didn't shoot very much (48%fg, 43% 3pt two yrs ago, 47% fg, 40% 3pt last year).

Jay Williams is going to sign with Philly. He was going to sign with New Jersey until the Nets lucked out and Marcus Williams fell to them in the draft.

 

[jbeecham]

Jay Williams is going to sign with Philly. He was going to sign with New Jersey until the Nets lucked out and Marcus Williams fell to them in the draft.

I heard that rumor, but as far as I knew it was still a rumor.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I personally like the Calderon/Sow one I posted. Calderon is a true pass-first PG and he could really learn from Nash. Sow is a high energy guy who wouldn't likely get too much time, but he scraps....

 

[F-Dog]

A few 'realistic' options:


Boston--Ryan Gomes, Delonte West (at the very least, they'd want the Cleveland pick back)

Indiana--Anthony Johnson, Jeff Foster (KT plus pick)

Milwaukee--Joe Smith, Charlie Bell (Kurt Thomas plus)

NY Knicks--Nate Robinson, Malik Rose (Kurt Thomas)

Toronto--Humphries, Calderon (JR plus)


The least unrealistic of those IMO are Boston and Milwaukee. The problem with Milwaukee is, they don't have much depth at PG, but the motivation on the Suns' side is obvious enough (trade KT for expiring contracts). Boston has excess depth at low salaries--especially at PG, now that Telfair and Rondo have arrived--and I'm sure Ainge wouldn't mind adding draft picks if he can manage it.

 

[slinslin]

Those trades are no good...

 

[mribnik]

I have no idea why we'd want to give up KT in any of those deals. I can't believe how little love he gets on this board. Of course, I'm sure he was added in to make the salaries match up, but there's no way I'd be willing to give him up for the players listed above. KT is worth his salary IMO.

 

[Gaddabout]

Boston--Ryan Gomes, Delonte West (at the very least, they'd want the Cleveland pick back)

What would it take in salaries? About $2 mil? If Boston has these two guys on the table, I think that's two players better than we could have landed in the draft. I would like this trade a lot, a lot, a lot.

West gives you a legitimate back-up point who plays bigger than 6-1 on defense. Gomes just fits as another psuedo-forward.

 

[sunsfn]

Hmmmm....

IND - Pollard/Jasikevicius
PHI - Hunter/Ollie
CHI - Duhon/Allen
MIA - Anderson/Doleac
MIL - Gadzuric/Bell
TOR - Calderon/Sow

Interesting. We shall see....

It could be Toronto, BC said he really liked Barbosa and got the pick from the Spurs to make the deal.
He could not get him in for the tryout until just before the draft because Barbosa had injured his leg? and finally he could come in just before the draft and they got the pick to draft him.
Sow is just 6' 9" I think, not a very big big. Calderon is not considered a very good point, just a backup.

 

[F-Dog]

What would it take in salaries? About $2 mil?

Less, according to hoopshype. I agree, Boston is my favorite scenario--they're the only ones with cheap young talent they might be willing to move.



slin, you think those trades suck, wait until you see the one the Suns actually come up with.




Mribnik, KT gets into trades because he's the only Sun with a middle-range salary. Also, the salary ****-storm is coming after next summer, and moving KT's two-year deal for an expiring deal is the obvious way to take care of that.

 

[Covert Rain]

but the motivation on the Suns' side is obvious enough (trade KT for expiring contracts).

I don't think that is the obvious decision at all. Why trade your best option at Center (who actually plays defense and rebounds) unlike your second option Diaw??? That makes no sense. This team cannot afford to give up ANY rebounding and defense in ANY trade.

If this team trades their best option at Center for a backup point guard, then this team takes a step back, not forward. Steve needs to get some minutes on the bench each game but they can't do that at the expense of the Center position.

They only thing I can think of is their is a trade scenario we have not thought of and they are getting someon with the equal of Kurts skills on defense and rebounding. That's assuming he is even being considered in the trade.

 

[sunsfn]

Sow is not going to be traded now!
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Updated: July 7, 2006, 2:00 PM ET
Raptors forward Sow undergoes neck surgery

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Sow

TORONTO -- Raptors forward Pape Sow had neck surgery to repair a fractured vertebrae after falling and hitting another player during practice in Las Vegas.


The operation was Thursday night, with no timetable set for his return, the team said Friday.

Sow was driving to the basket Tuesday while preparing for the Las Vegas Summer League. His neck struck a player's leg as he went down.

He was taken by ambulance to a Las Vegas hospital and has been there since.

Sow, 6-foot-10, averaged 3.5 points and 3.5 rebounds in 42 games for Toronto last season, including 25 games as a starter.

 

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