Gambo: Suns Interested In Trade

[azirish]

maybe not. camby wont help too much on duncan like KT does, but he will be very nice on parker and floppy driving into the lane and sometimes passing it to duncan once they get there. let duncan get his, and shut down the rest. thats what the spurs do with amare and nash's assists. seems to be working out for them

Only if Amare can keep Duncan from steamrolling into the paint every play.

Duncan killsed KT by shooting fall away bank shots. That is an amazingly difficult shot to stop and he either hits it or he doesn't. The defender has little to do with it, even someone as long as Camby.

But at least it wasn't just dunks. Duncan just plows through smaller guys like Camby. Camby was fine coming across as weak side guy, but Nene did most of the heavy lifting.

 

[Nasser22]

Someone posted that Duncan averaged 6 less points against Denver than against us. He will always get his averages or better in the playoffs. The better goal would be to try and stop easy lay-ups, Camby would do that. 3.3 bpg is insane. He is also a better rebounder which is needed against the Spurs.

 

[asudevil83]

Sheed plays Duncan as well as anyone....and with him, there is a serious mismatch when the Suns have the Ball....Duncan and Oberto covering Sheed and Amare ??? I like Marcus, but he is 33, has what?, 3 yrs left on a hefty paycheck...and he doesn't have the outside game that Wallace has. Plus, Sheed is a flat out killer...and he has a ring.

I doubt either comes here.

this arguement is not much of an arguement there.

Sheed - 33 by start of season
Camby - 33 (just turned)

Sheed - 2 years $26mil
Camby - 3 years $26mil?

i would MUCH rather have $26mil shelled out over 3 years instead of 2.....especially when the player given up to get each is KT instead of Marion

 

[arwillan]

this arguement is not much of an arguement there.

Sheed - 33 by start of season
Camby - 33 (just turned)

Sheed - 2 years $26mil
Camby - 3 years $26mil?

i would MUCH rather have $26mil shelled out over 3 years instead of 2.....especially when the player given up to get each is KT instead of Marion

and really the difference between the two is this:

Rasheed better offensive game
Camby better defensive game.
Rasheed size advantage
Camby shot-blocking advantage (i think rebounding is even)

 

[Nasser22]

and really the difference between the two is this:

Rasheed better offensive game
Camby better defensive game.
Rasheed size advantage
Camby shot-blocking advantage (i think rebounding is even)

Rebounding is even? You take 7 rebounds over 12 per game with probably not even a 5 min. difference?

 

[asudevil83]

Rebounding is even? You take 7 rebounds over 12 per game with probably not even a 5 min. difference?

and i'd gladly give up KT's rebouding for Camby's rebounding over giving up Marion's rebounding for Rasheed's rebounding.

 

[hafey]

It is very very foolish to overhaul the Suns so they can maybe beat one particular team in the league. All this talk of beating the Spurs is short-sighted.

What were the Suns weaknesses all year, not just the Spurs series?

-PG defense? This isn't going to change and hell we even have a very good defender on the roster at this position who isn't played.

-A wing that can finish strongly at the rim.

-Playable, legitimately-sized depth in the paint.

Edit: I agree the talk of stopping Duncan is moronic. He's probably the best power forward of all time. There is no one the Suns can acquire to do that.

 

[arwillan]

-Playable, legitimately-sized depth in the paint.

Edit: I agree the talk of stopping Duncan is moronic. He's probably the best power forward of all time. There is no one the Suns can acquire to do that.

they could get the sopranos.

 

[Hugh D'Man]

this arguement is not much of an arguement there.

Sheed - 33 by start of season
Camby - 33 (just turned)

Sheed - 2 years $26mil
Camby - 3 years $26mil?

i would MUCH rather have $26mil shelled out over 3 years instead of 2.....especially when the player given up to get each is KT instead of Marion

oops...I thought Camby made more dough....fact still remains sheed has a much better offensive game and is equally troubling (when puttin effort) on defense...

honestly though, I really don't care for either deal....or rather don't see them happening largely due to the non tax relief. RSarverstien has lowered the boom. (no offense Mr Kissinger)

 

[arwillan]

if we want to gear the team towards beating one team (like detroit did to miami) then we need sheed because of what he does on both ends. however, camby will help us against the spurs almost as much, and will probably help more against other teams in the league like maybe dallas. camby guarding dirk could be quite nice, especially because dirk likes to take a lot of J's rather than take it to the paint

 

[dodie53]

i think the suns should pursue camby first before sheed..

if they get camby, there's no need to get sheed..

can the suns offer diaw, atlanta 08 pick, and someone for camby?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I find no reason to keep KT if we can get Camby. I remember convincing myself through the regular season that KT's salary was simply stealing money from us.

KT accomplished two things this season in my eyes - 8 million bucks for hassling Duncan for 5 games and slowing down our pace during the regular season.

Camby would be a welcomed addition to our crew, no question about it. We shouldn't focus our roster on keeping a guy(KT) just to frustrate one player (TD).

Duncan's like kobe: the way you beat these guys is you just play them hard, let them get their points, and contain the rest of the court. They cant do it all by themselves, but the odds of them doing their part are near-inevitable.

KT+Iavaroni + 29 for Camby and whatever they want to throw in. I dont think the nuggets even have a first round pick this year, so even 29 would be golden for them.

 

[cly2tw]

I find no reason to keep KT if we can get Camby. I remember convincing myself through the regular season that KT's salary was simply stealing money from us.

KT accomplished two things this season in my eyes - 8 million bucks for hassling Duncan for 5 games and slowing down our pace during the regular season.

one could equally argue that, judging from KT's performance in the Spurs series, DA had been wasting company money of 8 mil by not playing KT in the regular season. We would have won the same number of games by playing KT 20+ min agame and got his condition better. Actually, by losing the series on not giving us a better chance with the proper use of KT through the whole season and in game 1 and 5, DA squandered maybe even 20 mil more in company's money in form of missed playoffs game income, not to mention other interests from the hypothetical title.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

one could equally argue that, judging from KT's performance in the Spurs series, DA had been wasting company money of 8 mil by not playing KT in the regular season. We would have won the same number of games by playing KT 20+ min agame and got his condition better. Actually, by losing the series on not giving us a better chance with the proper use of KT through the whole season and in game 1 and 5, DA squandered maybe even 20 mil more in company's money in form of missed playoffs game income, not to mention other interests from the hypothetical title.

Argue yes, equally argue? HA!

If we really want to get into hypotheticals and arguments about Dantoni's use of the bench players I think we would both end up rallying an angry mob and burning down his house.

Regardless of whose fault it is, KT underperformed in however many minutes he played during the regular season.

 

[Ollie]

can the suns offer diaw, atlanta 08 pick, and someone for camby?

Well no, because it makes no sense for the Nuggets if they want to free salary cap space.

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't think that Camby is the "best answer" for Duncan. He is definitely the best fit for C that the Suns can get. I have been pimping Camby on this team for about 2 years.

I agree. I think Camby would help but make no mistake that this team needs to get legit bench players as well or it won't matter if we get him or not.