Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
...after all their cap space was tied up. Context matters, and Monti's timing matters.
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Sure that's fair.
I do feel that there was some hubris from the GM around that WR room. It's not like you can't get creative around the cap
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
This is where some of us steeply diverge.
I don't judge GMs based on "rumors". It's nonsensical to do so because there is no evidence to back up whether it's true or not.
kerouac9
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There is the fact that he couldn't find a trade partner over the course of like three months. Can we judge him for that?
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Then half your takes on this board are nonsense because you can't know the truth about most of it *shrug* It's a message board. It's rife with speculation--pretty solid speculation on this one. But go on and judge him by his list of known mistakes this past offseason, and he doesn't come off smelling like roses.
CardNots
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Nothing, but yet everything…
schutd
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Sure, but as long as we're rumoring, wasn't it posited that Hop was looking for WAY too high an extension that may have run suitors off? Who knows. I guess I just try to find my happiness in any particular moment, rather than look back and wonder what could have been. Its more fun to look forward and say what if.
TheCardFan
Things have changed.
Can we?
Hopkins could only find one team when there was no trade compensation involved.
Teams weren't even returning his calls. That is an important part of the equation.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
After the teams had already spent their cap is what some folks keep ignoring. That's how long Monti dithered.
TheCardFan
Things have changed.
It was public that Hopkins wanted to be traded or there was talk that he could be traded in January. WAY before free agency started.
Does anyone have an article that states Monti waited until after free agency to talk to teams about Hopkins?
Pure speculation on what Monti was thinking or doing behind the scenes.
What we do know - people knew Hopkins was available in January. When the Cardinals released him, teams wouldn't even call Hopkins back.
Based on the facts above - doesn't seem like there was a market for Hopkins and certainly not at his contract number.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
You're stating teams wouldn't return Hop's calls--after they had already spent their cap money. That's all I was saying. People keep saying the former while forgetting the latter. It was widely rumored Monti was holding out for more in a trade than what teams were offering, which ultimately led to the cut.
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but also: when has the salary cap stopped a team from doing something they really wanted to do?
Hops cap number this year is $3.8mm.
take the Chiefs: they could have easily converted some portion of Travis Kelce's salary to bonus, created $8mm-$9mm in cap space and signed Hopkins. They choose not to, even when no draft pick comp was involved.
Chopper0080
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Some people have really uninformed opinions. And they argue them vehemently. In order to have a more knowledgeable board, they should be highlighted.
