Goran Dragic and his Buyout.........

[Roca Dolla]

It seems that our courts decited that Gogi is property of Geoplin Slovan a team he left 2 years ago for Tau ceramica.
There were some problems with his buyout or something.
So anyway today the court ruled that he is not a TAU player but Slovan's player and Slovan is willing to let him go for... you guessed it 500k. I don't know if TAU can appeal the ruling as i don't know if they already did and this was the second hearing but in any case it's looking better and better for you guys.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=819184&start=60

 

[leclerc]

That would be fantastic... :notworthy

Then we could have something like:

Nash, Dragic, Strawberry
Bell, Barbosa, Tucker
Diaw, Hill
Amare, Shaq, Lopez

 

[Sunsei]

Excellent news, thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Sunshooter]

I don't know the situation of Goran. He's a loaned player from TAU? Or he's already a Union Olimpija player?

Udrih, Brezec and Nachbar are all come from Union Olimpija. So I think the club won't block Goran if we pay acceptable compansation.

 

[HooverDam]

That would be fantastic... :notworthy

Then we could have something like:

Nash, Dragic, Strawberry
Bell, Barbosa, Tucker
Diaw, Hill
Amare, Shaq, Lopez

You need to slide DJ and Tucker up a slot in size on your depth chart. DJ was only used in small spurts as a PG last year because the Suns had no other backups. DJs a 2, not a 1. Tuckers more of a 3.

The Suns would also probably still sign a veteran back up PG so that they can take it nice and slow w/ Dragic. I'd HOPE they'd also sign another big, a rotation of Amare, Shaq and Lopez is way too thin. Adding Sean Marks isn't good enough either, they really need to find a way to bring back Skinner or someone like him.

 

[Joe Mama]

You need to slide DJ and Tucker up a slight in size on your depth chart. DJ was only used in small spurts as a PG last year because the Suns had no other backups. DJs a 2, not a 1. Tuckers more of a 3.

The Suns would also probably still sign a veteran back up PG so that they can take it nice and slow w/ Dragic. I'd HOPE they'd also sign another big, a rotation of Amare, Shaq and Lopez is way too thin. Adding Sean Marks isn't good enough either, they really need to find a way to bring back Skinner or someone like him.

I knew you and I could agree on something this week.

It would be fantastic if either DJ Strawberry (combo guard) or Dragic could step right in as the backup point guard, but I have a really, really hard time believing either one of them could ignite the offense any better than Babosa did last season. Also, unless there has been dramatic improvement, each of these guys as a week outside shot. The last thing the Phoenix Suns need is for a mature players who allow opposing defenses to collapse even more than last season. The offense just will not work well if there's only one player on the floor (shooting guard) who is a threat to knock down a three point shot. Maybe this is where that long talked about Amare Stoudemire three-point shot is going to come into play.

Call me a skeptic, but I think we want to see this from the media and/or the team before we start giving guys like Corrado a lot of crap.

Joe

 

[corrado]

Joe Mama

Hey its Corrado please don't disparge my Italian heritage. In all seriousness if I was wrong on my take and they get him over here THIS year, I will be happy that I was wrong. Won't be the 1st time nor the last for that. BUT until I see something official from the Suns I will maintain what I have been saying.

 

[WuRaider]

Get him here ASAP! Then we can use our pennies on filling the other positions.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Great news to hear really hope the suns can get him here for next season we need him pretty bad and would be great depth for our pg position

 

[95pro]

maybe the suns fo knew something the spurs fo didnt.

hmm, seems a little too convenient.


edit:

now lets get rid of barbs.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Awesome if the 500k buyout offer is good. The Suns can pay the entire 500k I believe too.

Great news.

 

[Chaplin]

maybe the suns fo knew something the spurs fo didnt.

hmm, seems a little too convenient.


edit:

now lets get rid of barbs.

I would think the fact that Barbosa wouldn't have to play the point would be incentive for us to keep him. The guy is still a point-a-minute guy off the bench, and that is a luxury in this league. And don't forget, he's a bargain.

He has an awful time against the Spurs, but against everyone else he's fantastic. Some people just don't realize that.

 

[The Commish]

Do we have a link for this is or is it just "some random dude" on RealGM?

 

[LV-Suns]

Do we have a link for this is or is it just "some random dude" on RealGM?

The dude from RealGM is from Slovenia.

 

[Mainstreet]

This would be great news. I think Dragic can play both the 1 and the 2 position. If the Suns could find a third PG, I can see where Dragic would play stretches beside Nash. This would really relieve some weight from Nash's shoulders. Dragic could then play defense against the tougher defensive matchup.

 

[The Commish]

The dude from RealGM is from Slovenia.

Everyone gets bashed for not having a link for rumors, yet we're acting like this is a done deal. I want this to happen as much as anyone, but I'm reserving optimism until I see it reported.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here's some more information about the buyout issue.

http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2008/07/one-big-mess-with-goran-dragic.html

There's another link contained within the article but I cannot read the language.

http://24ur.com/

 

[Chaplin]

Everyone gets bashed for not having a link for rumors, yet we're acting like this is a done deal. I want this to happen as much as anyone, but I'm reserving optimism until I see it reported.

I don't think there's any problem with being cautiously optimistic and exploring the options IF this rumor has truth to it. Nobody is claiming right now that it does.

 

[Mainstreet]

Looking under sports at http://24ur.com/sport/kosarka/

There is a video under "Dragič je član Geoplin Slovana" about Dragic that seems interesting because there is a lawyer type speaking. If anyone can only read or understand slovenian.

 

[devilalum]

Awesome if the 500k buyout offer is good. The Suns can pay the entire 500k I believe too.

Great news.

I read the Suns can only pay 350K. The player would have to pay any additional amount.

 

[The Commish]

Here's some more information about the buyout issue.

http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2008/07/one-big-mess-with-goran-dragic.html

There's another link contained within the article but I cannot read the language.

http://24ur.com/

Thanks. I hope this gets taken care of before the Vegas Summer League, though that still seems like a longshot at best.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I read the Suns can only pay 350K. The player would have to pay any additional amount.

Suns can pay 500k.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/06/28/20080628suns.html

 

[JS22]

maybe the suns fo knew something the spurs fo didnt.

hmm, seems a little too convenient.


edit:

now lets get rid of barbs.

Barbosa is your spark off the bench. I'd be against trading him unless it's a lopsided deal.

To be honest I'd even like to see Diaw here next year. (Again, unless the Suns can pull off a lopsided deal.) Get Diaw more involved in the offense as a playmaker at the SF spot. This would cut back on the amount of time Nash controls the offense which may negate his value a bit due to his defensive issues. But at the same time it would help to rest Nash here and there.

Edit: I just re-read my post and can't believe I want to see another year of Diaw. I remember starting the nearly 20 page "Boris Diaw is terrible" thread last season. This guy pisses me off with his extreme laziness, but he has a ridiculous amount of talent when he feels like showing up. Easily a 15/7/7 player.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

RealGM is uncanny for the amount of random posters-to-legit-rumor ratio

IF he follows up with additional info this is great news.

 

[LV-Suns]

He has an article up in RealGM

What will happen to Goran Dragic this summer?

July 1, 2008



The Goran Dragic case has caused a lot of discussion in the past years. Some people even considered his signing by TAU Ceramica as stealing. The whole transaction went to courts and now there has been a decision. I spoke with our Slovenian friend Matej Bergant who send us his inside on this case.

Slovenian NT player and one of the top European prospects of 1986 generation and 2008 NBA draftee Goran Dragič moved from Slovenian Geoplin Slovan Ljubljana, as you may know, in summer of 2006 to Spain where he signed a long term contract with Spanish powerhouse TAU Ceramica.

Since that time Dragič was loaned by TAU Ceramica and played in Spanish Polaris World Murcia and Slovenian Union Olimpija Ljubljana. This summer he was also chosen on NBA draft as 45th pick by San Antonio Spurs who soon after traded his rights to Phoenix Suns. Everything would be fine, but behind the scenes something else was and is still going on…

His transfer from Geoplin Slovan Ljubljana (which had a long term contract with Goran Dragič at that time) to Spanish TAU Ceramica wasn’t valid said the Slovenian law court on the ruling last week.

What happened? In summer ’06 TAU wanted to buy the player and offered Slovan a buyout of 250.000€. Slovan considered the offer not good enough and declined it because they wanted more money for the young prospect. TAU wasn’t prepared to pay more.

TAU and Dragič’s agent (Rade Filipović, BDA) found a way over all this obstacles. They found a rule in Slovenian basketball federation’s regulations (for basketball transfers) which allows the player (not in Dragič’s case, some other, special case) to move if they pay some kind of sum of 31.000€. TAU allocated this laughable (!) sum to Slovan’s bank account and signed a long term contract with Goran Dragič with a NBA release clause of 1.000.000€.

Slovenian basketball federation made the matter even worse as they gave the letter of clearance to TAU Ceramica as everything would be just fine in the case. All this just because the transfer regulations were explained different by every side involved.

Slovan’s GM was shocked and decided to give the case on Slovenian law court to examine if the matter is legal. He even reallocated the money given by TAU back to them.

Last week the court of justice in Slovenia decided that TAU’s and Dragič’s actions in this case were illegal and that he is still the player of Geoplin Slovan Ljubljana. Law court said that the letter of clearance shouldn’t be given to TAU Ceramica in first place because both sides involved should first agree on the buyout (it took them two basketball seasons to decide this…) before making the transfer. Of course everyone expects now that the lawyers who represent TAU and Dragič in this case will make an appeal… so the final decision in this case could take another year or even more.

One thing is also laughable. As I heard from reliable sources, Slovan which changed their GM since this case with Dragič in 2006, would now be prepared to let Dragič go for 500.000$ (ca. 300.000€) which is a bit more what TAU was offering at first time.

There are a lot of open questions. TAU wants Dragič to take the spot in their first team as they want him to be backup to Pablo Prigioni. Zoran Planinić left to CSKA Moscow so he could actually see some minutes there. Phoenix Suns and their GM Steve Kerr want to bring Dragič overseas and Slovenian top club Olimpija Ljubljana is also interested in making him their own player, not just a loaned one. We will have to wait and see how this saga will end.

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