Got to be Sellers!

[Lefty]

Don't sell me that bull. Upton was the most recognizable D-Back on the team throughout the majority of his career in AZ; and even during the aforementioned campaign made 2 all-star games and was in the Top 5 for MVP voting. The problem was the assclown who thought dangling him on the trade block for two years was a swell idea. Keeping him and continuing to help him improve would've been the right move. Selling him for pennies on the dollar was not.

The fact you continue to justify the trade and the compensation shows you have more than just a dislike for Upton, but some sort of disconcerting visceral hate. When Prado isn't even outhitting the throw-in piece in the deal (Chris Johnson), it's silly to think the D-Backs were even close to getting equal or near equal value.

Exactly. There are so many people who bought the Towers BS in that Upton was a cancer. If he was still here the offense would be much better. Trumbo, Ross and Prado are not even close to the talent Upton is. What LaRusso has to do is get rid of all the crap that Towers obtained and start over with a plan. This could take 3-5 years to fix. Let's see if Kendrick will keep Towers that long.

 

[Phrazbit]

The D'backs front office made a mistake making Upton the face of the franchise (UPTOwN) before he was ready . . . if he ever would be ready to handle it.

He didn't and you can't un-do it. The only way to rectify it was to move him.

There is more to baseball than at-bats. Even there, between Young's mile-high popups and Upton disregarding the cutoff man and showboating it in RF didn't help their causes.

Thats such garbage. He was under 25 and one year removed from being an MVP finalist. Upton was deemed a bad apple because our lousy manager dislikes players with any amount of flair. None of his teammates have ever had anything bad to say about him, our front office and manager dragged his name through the mud for 2 years, he took the high road the entire time and kept everything in house while our classless organization aired their dirty laundry. Finally they tried to trade him to one of FOUR teams he had a no trade clause, and only then did he finally say he was done doing any PR for the team.

Its the same trash that led to Eaton being shipped off.

 

[Iceman]

I am with you all and Towers needs to go back to SD. TLR can only do better at this point when he does it all. What a joke Towers is and I feel for Gibson because he basically got the shaft of an offense and pitching staff. Hard to point the finger at KG, but when the top dogs get cannned, so does the coaching staff (usually)...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Don't sell me that bull. Upton was the most recognizable D-Back on the team throughout the majority of his career in AZ; and even during the aforementioned campaign made 2 all-star games and was in the Top 5 for MVP voting. The problem was the assclown who thought dangling him on the trade block for two years was a swell idea. Keeping him and continuing to help him improve would've been the right move. Selling him for pennies on the dollar was not.



The fact you continue to justify the trade and the compensation shows you have more than just a dislike for Upton, but some sort of disconcerting visceral hate. When Prado isn't even outhitting the throw-in piece in the deal (Chris Johnson), it's silly to think the D-Backs were even close to getting equal or near equal value.

I was not an Upton fan... I always have a problem being a fan of someone who rarely, if ever reaches his potential. That said, what we got in return for Upton doesn't come close to what we coughed up. I can't stand Prado!


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[don7031]

Cahill is getting the start Friday against the Cubbies. His numbers in the minors haven't been stellar, but they need to showcase him for any faint hope that someone will have a major error in judgement and trade for him.

 

[overseascardfan]

Cahill is getting the start Friday against the Cubbies. His numbers in the minors haven't been stellar, but they need to showcase him for any faint hope that someone will have a major error in judgement and trade for him.

It is going to be pretty darn impossible to get someone to take Cahill and his albatross of a contract unless ARZ sends a large amount of cash with him. Teams will just wait until he is released.

 

[Mulli]

Come on, stupid Cubs!

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Don't sell me that bull. Upton was the most recognizable D-Back on the team throughout the majority of his career in AZ; and even during the aforementioned campaign made 2 all-star games and was in the Top 5 for MVP voting. The problem was the assclown who thought dangling him on the trade block for two years was a swell idea. Keeping him and continuing to help him improve would've been the right move. Selling him for pennies on the dollar was not.

The fact you continue to justify the trade and the compensation shows you have more than just a dislike for Upton, but some sort of disconcerting visceral hate. When Prado isn't even outhitting the throw-in piece in the deal (Chris Johnson), it's silly to think the D-Backs were even close to getting equal or near equal value.

Bingo

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Also not to play glass half full but Brownstein hit 28 homers, 95 RBIs and had a .337 average last year in the minors. Granted, it was A ball and I really wonder why the Angels were so willing to let him go for just Thatcher and Campana, but I digress.

 

[82CardsGrad]

MCarthy's home debut at Yankee Stadium today... 6 innings, 9k's, no walks and 1 run.... Yea. That sounds about right...


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[AZ Native]

MCarthy's home debut at Yankee Stadium today... 6 innings, 9k's, no walks and 1 run.... Yea. That sounds about right...


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It must be those magic pinstripes.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Man Ollie Perez has been fantastic for this team... Gotta believe KT is getting some calls from other teams for his services...


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[82CardsGrad]

McCarthy goes to 2 & 0 as he tosses 6 innings of 4 hit ball. 1 run and 5 K's... Now has a 1.45 ERA as a Yankee... And we remain stuck with Cahill... Amazing....


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[BC867]

McCarthy goes to 2 & 0 as he tosses 6 innings of 4 hit ball. 1 run and 5 K's... Now has a 1.45 ERA as a Yankee... And we remain stuck with Cahill... Amazing....


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Because the Yankees are allowing McCarthy to use his best pitch and the D-backs discouraged it. Cahill, that is another story. And then there is Didi, who has been given another Major League chance and is hitting .232.

It is time to clean house of our Manager, Bench Coach, Hitting Coach, Assistant Hitting Coach and Pitching Coach.

Or, as the Bible says, in the big inning, Tony LaRussa discovered the way to deal with worth.

 

[Phrazbit]

As much as I love to bash the current administration, I think we could wait and see about this cutter thing. McCarthy has never been able to stay healthy. If him bringing his cutter back into his arsenal leads to another one of his endless string of injuries then he is going to look pretty stupid for bashing the team.

Now... as for the Dbacks giving away a guy with an expiring deal AND offering to pay a chunk of it to a team with mountains of cash, and getting nothing in return... thats another story.

 

[AZ Native]

He was 3-10 with a 5.01 ERA (and made a few million by the DBacks) and was traded to the Yankees. Not a bad gig if you can get it.

 

[Matt L]

According to Buster Olney, the DBacks are telling other teams Martin Prado is not available. Maybe they are trying to drive up his value or maybe they are really clueless as to what he brings to the team.

 

[AZ Native]

They may be looking at the great 2nd half he had last year and how he is doing this 2nd half (.394 in the last 2 weeks). We may trade him but hopefully we won't get hosed again.

 

[TJ]

McCarthy goes to 2 & 0 as he tosses 6 innings of 4 hit ball. 1 run and 5 K's... Now has a 1.45 ERA as a Yankee... And we remain stuck with Cahill... Amazing....


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Something is wrong with our coaching staff if all of our former pitchers are pitching better away from the D-Backs. Yes, Chase is a hitter-friendly park, but when I hear things like McCarthy wasn't allowed to throw the cutter very often, and now is a common pitch for him on the Yankees, that concerns me.

 

[unseenaz]

Something is wrong with our coaching staff if all of our former pitchers are pitching better away from the D-Backs. Yes, Chase is a hitter-friendly park, but when I hear things like McCarthy wasn't allowed to throw the cutter very often, and now is a common pitch for him on the Yankees, that concerns me.

Hasn't only been him either, it's a growing trend. Skaggs, Kennedy, Bauer, now McCarthy are all pitching well after we dumped them all. That doesn't speak well for our pitching coaches.

 

[unseenaz]

Report I read today on mlbtraderumors stated that teams are inquiring about Aaron Hill, and were all ears. DBacks also said they would listen on Reed (please) Perez (whatever) and Collmenter (please, no) they stated that they wouldn't listen on Prado.

What do you guys want to happen? Our outfield for next year could very well be set with Peralta, and Pollock. They might not want to give up on Trumbo just yet, so Parra might be out of a job. The infield is a rodeo, if Hill and Prado are both moved we will be full of unproven rooks, so maybe a bat can be added there.

90% of our pitching staff can be replaced, so that's a glaring weakness.

Thoughts?

 

[unseenaz]

Hasn't only been him either, it's a growing trend. Skaggs, Kennedy, Bauer, now McCarthy are all pitching well after we dumped them all. That doesn't speak well for our pitching coaches.

Just to clarify, I don't think McCarthy will keep this up. Just a bit annoyed he was so quick to blame us for his struggles.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Report I read today on mlbtraderumors stated that teams are inquiring about Aaron Hill, and were all ears. DBacks also said they would listen on Reed (please) Perez (whatever) and Collmenter (please, no) they stated that they wouldn't listen on Prado.

What do you guys want to happen? Our outfield for next year could very well be set with Peralta, and Pollock. They might not want to give up on Trumbo just yet, so Parra might be out of a job. The infield is a rodeo, if Hill and Prado are both moved we will be full of unproven rooks, so maybe a bat can be added there.

90% of our pitching staff can be replaced, so that's a glaring weakness.

Thoughts?

Though KT's track record in trades is certainly nothing to get excited about, I would be totally fine if we shipped out: Hill, Prado, Trumbo, Parra and Reed. No way should we see Ross in a Dbacks uniform next season as well.
And, I fully realize that none of the players I named would or should bring us anything much in return. We will not meaningfully improve this team via trades as we don't have anything of real value to offer...

 

[Matt L]

Though KT's track record in trades is certainly nothing to get excited about, I would be totally fine if we shipped out: Hill, Prado, Trumbo, Parra and Reed. No way should we see Ross in a Dbacks uniform next season as well.
And, I fully realize that none of the players I named would or should bring us anything much in return. We will not meaningfully improve this team via trades as we don't have anything of real value to offer...

Prado: $22 million (2 years $11 million each)
Hill: $24 million (2 years $12 million each)
Trumbo: Arbitration eligible
Parra: Arbitration eligible
Cody Ross: $9.5 million 1 year (WTF?), 2016 has a $1 million buyout
Addison Reed: Arbitration eligible

I would hold on to Addison Reed unless someone really overpays. Trading Prado and Hill should happen ASAP for no other reason then to clear salary. Trumbo does not have a position on the field that can help us win, he is young and has a lot of power, so I would imagine that a team with a DH spot would be willing to take him. Parra is eligible for arbitration and I cannot imagine him getting a huge amount based on his current numbers. I can't see another team giving up anything substantial for him him and I do think think he is a good 4th outfielder and good insurance for injury. That Cody Ross contract is mind boggling.

So I say we dump Prado, Hill, Trumbo, and Cody Ross. That saves at least $30 million next season.

That leaves our lineup as follows:

Pollock (CF)
Peralta (LF)
Goldschmidt (1B)
Montero (C)
Owings (2B)
Gregorious (SS)
Replacement - 3B
Parra (RF)
Pitcher

Rotation:

SP Patrick Corbin
SP Wade Miley
SP Chase Anderson
SP Archie Bradley (Is he ready?)
SP Josh Collmenter

With some funds available, I say we make a play for a good starting pitcher, move Collmenter back to the bullpen. Jon Lester, James Shields and Max Scherzer will all be free agents. If the decision is made to not go after a top of the line pitcher, Pablo Sandoval should be a free agent and could be a solid option at 3B.

 

[Phrazbit]

I agree with all the above.

And yes, that Cody Ross contract... as much as I've ripped Towers, that move is in a league of its own. Nothing about it made any sense. A gross overpay for a platoon player, at a position where we had zero need. An abundance of cheap, talented guys were already in the organization at that position. Not even the Yankees drop 9+ mil a year on 4th outfielders. Just insane.