Great stat when rushing 30+ times in a game...

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In 2003, 82.6% of the teams that had a back rush 30+ times in a game won.
So far this year teams with a 100 yard back are 15-6.

Screw drafting Cedric Benson or Darren Sproles. Draft BOTH of 'em.
 

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It has more to do with getting the lead than running the ball than anything... Why do you like Sproles so much by the way?
 

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Just resign Emmitt and give it to him 30+ a game :D
 

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Because he's good, we need him and there's a good chance he'll only cost a second rounder.

I live in the Fresno State area and he looked terrible when I saw him. If there aren't big holes to run through he doesn't have the strength to run through guys... Was trying to tease you about it before but you didn't take the bait :(
 
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I live in the Fresno State area and he looked terrible when I saw him. If there aren't big holes to run through he doesn't have the strength to run through guys... Was trying to tease you about it before but you didn't take the bait :(
Fresno State's d-line dominated that game.
Six of his first seven carries he had to make the first man miss in the backfield.
He has plenty of speed and power, with a whole bag of moves. He's not going to get five yards everytime he gets the ball. He's more of the type that's going to get three on one carry, then 50 the next.
 

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This Stat is misleading, teams with the lead can rush and kill the clock. Teams behind cannot rush due to the clock and must pass.
 

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He's more of the type that's going to get three on one carry, then 50 the next.


Forgive me because I dont watch a ton of college but doesnt like every college RB average like 25 ypc and 110 TD's a year?

I mean come draft day there are RB's in the 7th round being drafted with amazing numbers. Arent college stats just fluff? I mean they might play teams with 1 real athlete on defense?

Just a crapshoot when you think about it.
 
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DevonCardsFan said:
This Stat is misleading, teams with the lead can rush and kill the clock. Teams behind cannot rush due to the clock and must pass.
I think most stats are misleading. Regardless I think we need a serious talent infusion at RB to make this offense go and at running back I'd turn to the draft.

I target vets for the offensive line in the offseason, but I'm not a big fan of overpaying a vet running back like James or Alexander.
 

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I agree that this stat is misleading. A helpful bit of data would be;

# of runs with the team leading
# of runs with the team tied
# of runs with the team behind

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Fresno State's d-line dominated that game.
Six of his first seven carries he had to make the first man miss in the backfield.
He has plenty of speed and power, with a whole bag of moves. He's not going to get five yards everytime he gets the ball. He's more of the type that's going to get three on one carry, then 50 the next.

Well he had 11 carries for 33 yards and one carry was for like 16 yards against a back up when the game was decided so what does that make it? 17 yards on 10 carries most of it when the game still counted against an unranked opponent at the time that was supposed to get crushed?!
That's 1.7 yards a carry when you need him.....
 
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swd1974 said:
Forgive me because I dont watch a ton of college but doesnt like every college RB average like 25 ypc and 110 TD's a year?

I mean come draft day there are RB's in the 7th round being drafted with amazing numbers. Arent college stats just fluff? I mean they might play teams with 1 real athlete on defense?

Just a crapshoot when you think about it.
They can definately be out of whack. The passer-rating stats are insane.

Regardless I'm a big fan of his power, speed and ability in the open field.
 

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I think most stats are misleading. Regardless I think we need a serious talent infusion at RB to make this offense go and at running back I'd turn to the draft.

I target vets for the offensive line in the offseason, but I'm not a big fan of overpaying a vet running back like James or Alexander.


Saw a thing on ESPN that you shoudl either get a decent vet or draft a rb low. Its not worth the guarenteed money for a position that only averages 3 years in the NFL.
 

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I like 3rd and 4th round running backs.

Here's another great stat:

Teams with the most points at the end of a game are undefeated this year so far.
 
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Well he had 11 carries for 33 yards and one carry was for like 16 yards against a back up when the game was decided so what does that make it? 17 yards on 10 carries most of it when the game still counted against an unranked opponent at the time that was supposed to get crushed?!
That's 1.7 yards a carry when you need him.....
He also had 235 yards against Oklahoma in last years Big XII championship game.
 

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I still think there are a lot of good running backs out there that would do well if they just had some holes to run through. The only problem is I think we might be one of the few teams that doesn't have one :(
 
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Lex said:
I like 3rd and 4th round running backs.

Here's another great stat:

Teams with the most points at the end of a game are undefeated this year so far.
I like good running backs. I don't really care where they come from.

And that stat is misleading.
 

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SECTION 11 said:
I think most stats are misleading. Regardless I think we need a serious talent infusion at RB to make this offense go and at running back I'd turn to the draft.

I target vets for the offensive line in the offseason, but I'm not a big fan of overpaying a vet running back like James or Alexander.


I thoroughly agree with the 2nd point. Spending a lot of money on a veteran RB rarely works. RB's have a very short career on average, your best bet is to draft one and get his good years, than sign one and get his "Eddie George" years.

But if running 30+ is so strong a correlation, let's just run the first 30 times every game :)
 

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swd1974 said:
Saw a thing on ESPN that you shoudl either get a decent vet or draft a rb low. Its not worth the guarenteed money for a position that only averages 3 years in the NFL.


That's true to a point, but most decent vets are on the downside of their career.

What made Priest Holmes so attractive was he had very little work in college because of Ricky Williams, and only ~ 400 carries in his first 4 years with the Ravens. So at an age where most good RB's have close to 2000 carries(college and pro), Holmes had far less, which means he has a lot more mileage left than the average RB his age at that time.

KC is overusing him now, they're giving up the longevity edge they had.
 
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Russ Smith said:
But if running 30+ is so strong a correlation, let's just run the first 30 times every game :)
If we can mix in a bomb downfield every ten plays, I'm all for it.

I still have visions of guys like Keith Jackson catching 3 balls for about 120 yards and two TD's.
 

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If we can mix in a bomb downfield every ten plays, I'm all for it.

I still have visions of guys like Keith Jackson catching 3 balls for about 120 yards and two TD's.


If Jamelle Holieway is available we should sign him at QB!

or I can always start my Vince young campaign, perfect Qb to run the option in the NFL, and he can see over the line unlike Vick.
 

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