Grizzlies @ Suns Sunday game thread 1-5-20

[1Sun]

They don't play enough minutes. It has to be a top 6 player

Unless the results were so catastrophic in their time on the court that Monty had no choice but to cut their minutes short...

 

[Phrazbit]

Saric has had his minutes eliminated so that means likely who Rubio was talking about

I think Monty is talking about Baynes

If it was just one guy I don't think he would pop off to the media.

 

[1Sun]

Saric has had his minutes eliminated so that means likely who Rubio was talking about

I think Monty is talking about Baynes

Baynes has clearly checked out since he got hurt. I am pretty sure he doesn't want to be here (just as he didn't want to get traded here in the first place).

We need to trade Baynes while we still can get something for him, before he walks at the end of the season.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Something has to be done ASAP. Coach looking this frustrated publicly while a player is openly questioning his teammates means the locker room is fracturing

 

[BC867]

Can't take all the wrist-slitting on the Suns board. I'm not happy where we're at either, but we're a better team. We'll be fine.

You HOPE we'll be fine. Would you bet the ranch that we WILL be fine?

Saying that we'll be fine is passive, as the Suns have been for a decade.

We won't be fine until personnel decisions are made by an experienced
NBA General Manager and one who is allowed to do his job..

 

[82CardsGrad]

Something has to be done ASAP. Coach looking this frustrated publicly while a player is openly questioning his teammates means the locker room is fracturing

Can’t wait much longer... and I’m dying to know who the bad apple(s) is/are!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Okay so now Rubio has called out his teammates for not following the game plan and now Monty has

So who is it?

Wow. Both of them. Good. If true, and I’m inclined to believe the experienced coach and the vet, the team needs be called out. But who is it?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It's either Baynes, Saric, or Oubre.

No one else makes sense

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Could be Ayton or bridges or cam. Why eliminate those guys? Could even be book but that doesn’t seem to be the case unless it’s on the defensive end.

I’m betting it’s more than one to have two call-outs.

 

[BC867]

Okay so now Rubio has called out his teammates for not following the game plan and now Monty has

So who is it?

What happened to the original (how many seconds was it?) game plan?

They're back to dribbling the ball around and, unfortunately, Booker is
the worst. And he gets double teamed.

 

[Bufalay]

Looks like he had a game with 33 points last year. I have zero recollection of that.

It was pretty flukey. Lots of hustle fast break points. He didn’t create many shots for himself.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Totally agree about the rebounding... but the two times I saw him take the jump hook, was when he had Valenciunas on him. I’m willing to cut the kid a little slack with not yet have a move to get around a 7’1” 260 pound hunk of humanity... I mean, how many times has he ever gone up against a man that size?

A whole lot last season. Why are we giving him slack? He’s getting paid a ton to play and it’s not like he doesn’t have the physical tools to work with.

 

[1Sun]

What happened to the original (how many seconds was it?) game plan?

They're back to dribbling the ball around and, unfortunately, Booker is
the worst. And he gets double teamed.

That's a good point. Tonight, Booker and Oubre were the biggest culprits there...

 

[TJ]

Practice is gonna be fun tomorrow.....

 

[Mainstreet]

This is not encouraging to hear from Booker but I feel the same way.


Kellan Olson‏Verified account @KellanOlson

A depressing line from Devin Booker: "It's some figuring out that we have to do. And hopefully we can do that sooner (rather) than later. I've been here 4 years and you want to get things going early to make the season a lot better and a lot more fun."

8:07 PM - 5 Jan 2020

 

[Bufalay]

Could be Ayton or bridges or cam. Why eliminate those guys? Could even be book but that doesn’t seem to be the case unless it’s on the defensive end.

I’m betting it’s more than one to have two call-outs.

Haha if Monty is talking about Booker (40pts, 20 fga) he needs to get fired.

 

[1Sun]

Haha if Monty is talking about Booker (40pts, 20 fga) he needs to get fired.

Maybe not...If Booker is getting his but is disrupting his team's game plan in the process...

 

[Mainstreet]

Booker with franchise record for most consecutive 30 point games.

From Duane Rankin.


Devin Booker paced the Suns with 40 in setting a franchise record for most consecutive games with at least 30 points at six games in a row.. Kelly Oubre Jr added 17 points and 10 rebounds, as the Suns fell 121-114 to Memphis.


https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...pite-bookers-record-setting-night/2821602001/

 

[Mainstreet]

Saric has had his minutes eliminated so that means likely who Rubio was talking about

I think Monty is talking about Baynes

Do we have a quote?

 

[TJ]

Saric has had his minutes eliminated so that means likely who Rubio was talking about

I think Monty is talking about Baynes

Baynes is playing off script??

 

[82CardsGrad]

A whole lot last season. Why are we giving him slack? He’s getting paid a ton to play and it’s not like he doesn’t have the physical tools to work with.

Meh... I seem to recall Abdul-Jabber and Olajuwon routinely using sky hooks. And Olajuwon prolific with his mid-range jumper.
Ayton has now played in what, 6 games this season? With this team?
As I said, he was open IN THE PAINT, on many occasions tonight and he never was fed the ball... What is crystal clear to me is that this team, with Ayton on the court, still needs time to gel.
And yes, it would be nice to see Ayton be more aggressive in terms of actually fighting for rebounds...

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Meh... I seem to recall Abdul-Jabber and Olajuwon routinely using sky hooks. And Olajuwon prolific with his mid-range jumper.
Ayton has now played in what, 6 games this season? With this team?
As I said, he was open IN THE PAINT, on many occasions tonight and he never was fed the ball... What is crystal clear to me is that this team, with Ayton on the court, still needs time to gel.
And yes, it would be nice to see Ayton be more aggressive in terms of actually fighting for rebounds...

Yeah but they also muscled for position for the hooks. Ayton literally worked his way AWAY from the basket to AVOID contact for his hooks.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Yeah but they also muscled for position for the hooks. Ayton literally worked his way AWAY from the basket to AVOID contact for his hooks.

You’re reaching dude... Stick with the anger over his lack of fight for rebounds. There’s substance there. Otherwise, you’re reaching...

 

[Chaplin]

Well first thing we need to do is not have Ayton throwing picks 30 feet from the basket. Since we don't do pick and rolls, what's the use? I think one of the main reasons are 2 big lineup has worked (not for long, but it does work for at least 5 good minutes) is because Ayton ISN'T the one throwing screens at the 3 point line.

But for the last 3 quarters, he would go way out on top, and guess what? He gets out of the play because we don't run Pick & Rolls.

 

[BC867]

That's a good point. Tonight, Booker and Oubre were the biggest culprits there...

When the concept of crisp, quick passing disappeared so quickly, I wondered if it was because Monty didn't have the players to carry it out or the power to hold the players to it?

If he didn't have the players for it, why announce it? And where is the coordination between the General Manager and Head Coach?

If the players, particularly Book, didn't buy into it, then Monty was doomed to fail.

I'll post it again. The team went south after King Sarver announced that he is in 3-way communications with Jones and Monty.

The players know that neither Jones nor Monty calls the shots. How could they not? We do! The decision making of NBA teams is pretty transparent.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Something has to be done ASAP. Coach looking this frustrated publicly while a player is openly questioning his teammates means the locker room is fracturing

I wouldn’t be surprised if the plan was to find ways to deliver the ball to Ayton down low as often as possible... And that didn’t happen, at all!
I could see this being the source to Monty’s anger...