Hardy Brown

[nurnay]

Let's all pour some of our 40's on the sidewalk if he doesn't come back. I loved his camp updates, regardless is he missed on a few players. He knew his stuff.

 

[Duckjake]

So completely incorrect it isn't even funny. Brown knows more about NFL football than any person on the board. That's a fact.

So, supposedley, did Dave McGinnis and Denny Green.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Why is his identity such a secret? Or why does anyone care? He came on here, was wrong on alot things, got called on it, and went away. I've been wrong a zillion times and been called on it and i didn't take it personally and run away.

 

[Goldfield]

I've been wrong a zillion times, just ask my wife.

Fixed that for you.

 

[JeffGollin]

I believe what happened (without going into detail) is that "Hardy" was outed here and either he or someone in the organization was not happy about it. End of story.

 

[BigRedArk]

The way the guy talked, he was someone who at one point or another played the game and I'm not just talking on a small scale level.

I'm not going to speculate names out of respect for the person's privacy, however I have my educated and calculated guess as to who it is.

Well don't tease us then. Tell us.

 

[kerouac9]

Hardy was just wrong so often looking back--Wakefield, Pace, Walker, Step etc. He may have seemed insightful but in the end he was no more informed than the rest of us.

Langston Moore, Antrel "Phi Slamma Jamma" Rolle, the success of the running game, Dansby being a cancer...

...but the guy really knew what he was talking about. He just backed the wrong horses again, and again, and again. I'll pour out a little liquor for Hardy, though. He definitely brought the knowledge and some good debate.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Calvin Pace had 12 tackles and 1 sack in 5 games - that's nothing to pound your chest over.
This is exactly the kind of thing a person with limited knowledge of the game points to in order to back up his arguement. There are many things a player does on the field that don't show up in the game summary. These hidden responsibilities within a defense, like holding the point-of-attack, playing his technique (gap) correctly or pushing the corner to name a few, determine if a player is doing his job.

I just don't think that we need to have a "Big Red Huddle" to talk crap about a guy that was one of the top performers on the defense last year and then pat ourselves on the back regarding a player that's never performed when the games counted.

I was not trying to pat myself on the back. I was trying to inform this group of Cardinals fans of some truths that are happening here in Flagstaff.

Football has been my life for a long, long time and when you know the game - because it was your job to know the game - you don't have to seek validation from posters on a message-board. Understand?

Your position on Calvin Pace is the safe one and compliant with a front-runner's mentality: the odds say he won't perform well changing positions, especially early in the season. The odds say he won't have the stats that Dansby has had in the past and, because of this, you and people like Cheese will point and say, "see..." And your "see" will have nothing to do with whether or not Pace has improved this defense overall. But in a ridiculous fit of irony, who will pound their chest then?

If Pace plays well, what do you have to lose? Face? Credibility? This coming from a person who thinks the primary responsibility for the Sam is playing man-coverage on the TE. Credibility?

I read Hardy's posts and see a lot of the same things that I see in Mitch's. He likes to see the underachievers do well. Do you really, really, really think that Langston Moore is going to be a better player than Kendrick Clancy when the games start counting?
I don't know who "Mitch" is but I'm sure I would like him. An underachiever doing well is not underachieving at all, is he? In regard to Langston Moore, again, I say what I see. Moore is having twice the camp Clancy was (before he got injured). Does it mean he's going to be a Pro Bowl player? No. I say what I see. By the way, Kendrick Clancy is the quintessential overachiever (which I think is what you meant, above), like Langston Moore. Look at his size and you tell me what you think?

I was standing next to a 30-year, NFL coach who was utterly perplexed with how Kendrick Clancy practiced. He was the last in line for every drill and looked disinterested in practicing hard during the team drills (we observed this for three-days). I won't say what the coach said but he was right. Langston Moore was working against our first-unit and making plays; Clancy was working against our second-unit (before he got injured) and doing nothing. But I should talk to you guys about Clancy, right?

You guys have made me realize one thing: message-boards are for fans. It reminds me why, to this day, I can't sit in the stands and listen to some of the things some people say. Most of them just don't know what they're talking about. And the worst part is...they act like they do.

The vast majority of this great forum is hungry for informed, educated information, regardless of whether it proves them right or wrong. That's awesome. Keep that attitude and do what you can to stay positive.

Fans should be able to rant and rave, regardless of whether they're right, wrong or just plain uninformed. You should be able to state your opinion without reserve. It's part of being a fan and without you guys there is no passion; if there's no passion, there's no interest; if there's no interest, people don't get paid.

Thanks again to ASFN; you guys are great and you provide a wonderful service for fans.

Peace.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76228&page=2

This was his last post.... Everything he wrote was worth the read but it is pretty apparent that we blew our opportunity for a truly inside perspective. Was he right all the time? No... But was he rediculously informative? Yes.

Probably the most knowledgable poster (from a pure football perspective) we have ever had.


Hopefully he comes back.

 

[SuperSpck]

He really seemed to know the game (at an amazing level), but continually allowed his enthusiasm for the team to influence his views.

Make no mistake, anytime this board loses one of it's good posters, it's a blow.

If he could come back with another handle that'd be fine, if we're lucky he'll be able (or want to) stick around.

 

[lobo]

I believe what happened (without going into detail) is that "Hardy" was outed here and either he or someone in the organization was not happy about it. End of story.

His commentary was always very well written. We have a number of eloquent posters whom I look forward to reading. It is too bad he left us. There was a right fielder on the Red Sox whose name was Hardy. That was his last name. That is totally irrelvant, but it is bothering me that I can't think of it. Anyone have any thoughts?

Those of us who are Cardinal BB fans, remember we can all take a break on who our beloved AZ's are going to draft on Sunday Night as we open the defense of our World Championship at 19:00 CDT.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Why is his identity such a secret?

Probably a mix of not wishing to be patronized and called on every such word that some may disagree with, using his "job" to hang him.

As for why he left, I think it was a mix between what Jeff said, and a mix of the afforementioned patronization and the realization that when it comes to criticism for players, message boards are a different animal. I think in his last post, we get some insight as to the fact that he's NOT coming back and why.

You guys have made me realize one thing: message-boards are for fans. It reminds me why, to this day, I can't sit in the stands and listen to some of the things some people say. Most of them just don't know what they're talking about. And the worst part is...they act like they do.

Where I disagree with the sentiments of Hardy here, that not all fans are over obsessive know-it alls who act like they could do better, I also can understand entirely what he's saying. If I were in his shoes, with a vested interest in the team far beyond fan support, I'd feel the same way.

 

[BigRedRage]

It's ok guys, we can go back to thinking I am the coolest poster around again.

 

[jefftheshark]

It's ok guys, we can go back to thinking I am the coolest poster around again.

Works for me.

The Shark

 

[Duckjake]

????

 

[BigRedArk]

Where I disagree with the sentiments of Hardy here, that not all fans are over obsessive know-it alls who act like they could do better, I also can understand entirely what he's saying. If I were in his shoes, with a vested interest in the team far beyond fan support, I'd feel the same way.

So are you saying he did have a vested interst in the Cards?

 

[SECTION 11]

The whole thing's a shame. I can't believe it had to get to the point where he just said, "to hell with this."

 

[Scott MS]

So to read between the lines, Hardy was actually someobody affiliated with the Cardinals or the media. The Cards organization was not happy and potential job issues on the line.

Hardy leaves to never return . . .

 

[BigRedRage]

So to read between the lines, Hardy was actually someobody affiliated with the Cardinals or the media. The Cards organization was not happy and potential job issues on the line.

Hardy leaves to never return . . .

Who he is has not really been solved, what has been solved is that we like to argue and he didnt so he left asfn.

 

[Scot1]

I'm very sorry he stopped--his posts were unusual in the depth of knowledge the expressed about football roles and strategies. I wish other posters would do that more--I think some have comparable knowledge, but most of the new information that comes out in posts is statistics, which are valuable, too, but not the main thing Hardy brought.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

So are you saying he did have a vested interst in the Cards?

Hey, for someone who got as in depth as he did... You can draw your own judgement from there.

Here's another question-- why did Dave Pasch stop posting here?