Hey coach what about Cooper

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I don't necessarily disagree with the decision. I just think it is way too soon to label him a bust.


Agree. Not sure what purpose it serves to label him a "bust" at the moment. I think it's pretty obvious he's going to get a shot next offseason. If he whiffs, then "bust" he is.
 

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Agree. Not sure what purpose it serves to label him a "bust" at the moment. I think it's pretty obvious he's going to get a shot next offseason. If he whiffs, then "bust" he is.

Yes. There is no reason he won't get a shot next season, but the number of opportunities are decreasing.
 

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So let's go with another guard in the first round!

You can't make moves out of fear or history. Two mistakes by the Lions didn't make Calvin Johnson a bad pick. If we have a need at OG, and there is top rated player available, you still have to take him despite your previous miss.
 

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Let's not get crazy here, guys. He has value on that rookie contract. No trade value right now, but he's basically the cost of a mid-tier free agent like Daryn College. Can he play at that level? Apparently not right now, but he's going to be on the shelf with only him, Larsen, and Watford under contract in 2015.

Sure he will be an option, and so will The Ghost. Point is that the Cardinals pursuit of interior linemen this offseason will reflect their views of Cooper.
 

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keim was an offesive lineman in college but he is struggling with his offensive lineman draft choice.

massie was the only one decent,,but just cause he was projected as a second round who dropped in the fourth,so was just a lucky pick
 

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Speaking of Massie, he had his own problems and now I'd venture to say he's badass. Both tackles are playing well and if there's anyone Coop can lean on its Massie, who had his own struggles.
 

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You know the d line runs all kinds of guys in and out but the o line you don't mess with the chemistry.. make sense?
 

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You can't make moves out of fear or history. Two mistakes by the Lions didn't make Calvin Johnson a bad pick. If we have a need at OG, and there is top rated player available, you still have to take him despite your previous miss.

Agreed. Depending on what you think about Troy Nicklas' future I think the interior OL is the one position holding this offense back going forward.
 

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You know the d line runs all kinds of guys in and out but the o line you don't mess with the chemistry.. make sense?
Yes that does make sense. Because one unit is responsible for protecting the QB and the other unit isn't. Also the defensive line has to do more running chasing after RBs and receivers than the offensive players do and thus they need to stay as fresh as possible.
 

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I'd say that the Cardinals need to upgrade everybody to the right of Jared Veldheer.

We're halfway through the season and Bobbie Massie has racked up two quarterbacks. He got beat physically on the play where Stanton was knocked out and screwed up mentally on the play where Palmer blew out his knee. If Massie had handed off the defensive end to take on the outermost rusher Palmer isn't going under the knife. He sat last year because the coaching staff didn't trust him to make the right adjustment and he proved them right this year.
 

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