kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
So what is your take on JJ Watts interview?
Hey, Kyler
- Thread starter Brian in Mesa
- Start date
- Status
JJ didn't say anything good about the offensive line.
- Joined
- Jan 2, 2003
- Posts
- 91,355
- Reaction score
- 68,426
Lol
- Joined
- Jan 2, 2003
- Posts
- 91,355
- Reaction score
- 68,426
News tip… JJ promoted Kyler before he played with him:
J.J. Watt to Cardinals QB Kyler Murray: 'I came here because I believe in you'
J.J. Watt says there were many reasons why he chose to come to the Cardinals. Above all he said, 'you have to have a quarterback to have a chance.'
www.12news.com
The idea that JJ only talks about himself is one of the single dumbest things I’ve ever read on this board in an attempt to defend Kyler Murray. Even beyond the easily found link above, we just watched an entire season of Hard Knocks where JJ talked about EVERYTHING, constantly.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
You've been a bit of a rabble rouser lately @kerouac9. How very disappointing.
From Budda in December
"For me, I can just say that K1 [Kyler Murray] has grown so much. He's a great player of course … On the field he demands excellence. If he messes up, he wants to run it back. If a player messes up, he wants to run it back as well. Just a true professional that of course is angry about us not winning games as well and is a true winner. So [Murray] is a guy who just comes into work each and every day and wants to be great and have his teammates trust him, and we trust him."
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Sorry to disappoint you. What did you make of the J.J. Watt video?
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Link?
Thank you.
TheCardFan
Things have changed.
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
Oh I'm kidding with you of course.
JJ certainly didn't jump at the opportunity to sing K1's praises, that's true. But neither did DP press him for an answer, and it wasn't like they talked about Kyler for 10 minutes.
Honestly, I put it under the category of things that make you go "hmmmm", but also not damming.
Dayman
ASFN Addict
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
For those who are still upset about Kyler getting his surgery elsewhere...it's not that uncommon.
This sort of hater aid is just non productive to a conversation
RON_IN_OC
https://www.ronevansrealty.com
I'm sorry, but this is a Hate On Kyler thread only. No positivity, even with evidence, is allowed.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
I mean, he asked him twice at least, and J.J. didn't respond. That's about as damning as it gets.
I'm sorry, but this is a Hate On Kyler thread only. No positivity, even with evidence, is allowed.
Listen to the interview and it sure seems like Smith says "Hey he got paid and he's still showing up to work. Just goes to show you."
Very low bar Kyler's teammates are holding him to.
Again, actually listen to this interview (it's like the first minute) and tell me that this is a full-throated endorsement of Kyler Murray. Rich Eisen gives Budda a chance to deny what Patrick Peterson is saying and Budda demurs.
Everyone understands that Kyler hates to lose. What he does with that energy is an open question, and how he's dealt with recent adversity and the adversity that is sure to come.
SoonerLou
ASFN Addict
Kyler has his own set of issues.
Bidwill's handling of Kyler/the Cardinals helps add fuel to the fire.
As Cowherd said months ago the leaks were likely from Bidwill. Extensions to Keim/KK.
Not hiring a coach yet thus creating more speculation/doubts about the QB. (Its Super Bowl week in Arizona the media heads are gonna talk about something)
I think somewhere along the way Kyler thought how Aaron Rodgers handles himself was ok for him to do the same. Difference being Rodgers had 10+ years of excellence before his weird quirks became an issue. He's learning a hard lesson that one bad season can undue whatever good you did for a couple seasons.
Bidwill's handling of Kyler/the Cardinals helps add fuel to the fire.
As Cowherd said months ago the leaks were likely from Bidwill. Extensions to Keim/KK.
Not hiring a coach yet thus creating more speculation/doubts about the QB. (Its Super Bowl week in Arizona the media heads are gonna talk about something)
I think somewhere along the way Kyler thought how Aaron Rodgers handles himself was ok for him to do the same. Difference being Rodgers had 10+ years of excellence before his weird quirks became an issue. He's learning a hard lesson that one bad season can undue whatever good you did for a couple seasons.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
I find it distasteful.
Yeah we get it, Kyler Murray is a shorter than average NFL QB, but that's not germane to this conversation.
It sure sounds like you're hearing what you want to hear. Which is fine, you can interpret it how ever you want, but I guess it pointless to post quotes/clips of teammates trying to have Kylers back at this point with all of the established biases in both sides who will read init the way they want.
Last edited:
It's also baordline child abuse IMHO to force a children that small to put that kind of stress on their body. If that was from the Chinese Gynastics team, we'd all be up in arms over it.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Okay. He literally says that Kyler got paid and he’s still working. Put as much faith as you want in the unvarnished truth from a rookie late-round pick.
I'm not forming an opinion one way or another based on all of this. I want a coach that meshes with Kyler and I want to see how that works.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Four years of data and you’re still not forming an opinion?
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
No. "As damming as it gets" would be if they actually said something, you know, bad about K1. But they didn't. Okay?
I get that JJ and Budda not coming out in full-on support of Murray is concerning. You and Chopper have a point there. But please don't extrapolate it out to more than that. If neither one of them say neither good nor bad things about Murray, that's concerning, but it's more inconclusive than anything else.
- Status
