How many remaining coaches have to be fired before you believe Wiz has control ?

[D-Dogg]

The strangest issues are argued for days.

No they aren't.

 

[Mulli]

No they aren't.

If you prove they aren't, I'll believe you, until then I'll try proving something about Stout's dog.

 

[D-Dogg]

If you prove they aren't, I'll believe you, until then I'll try proving something about Stout's dog.

Whatever, that's just like you to deflect the primary point into something else. Stout's dog, while a viable topic of discussion, is not what we are talking about RIGHT NOW. Typical Mulli, make some irrational claim, then when you are challenged on it you quickly change the subject.

I am on to you.

 

[Mulli]

Whatever, that's just like you to deflect the primary point into something else. Stout's dog, while a viable topic of discussion, is not what we are talking about RIGHT NOW. Typical Mulli, make some irrational claim, then when you are challenged on it you quickly change the subject.

I am on to you.

Stop trying to avoid the onus.

 

[Sandan]

I don't believe Stout even has a dog

 

[Mulli]

I don't believe Stout even has a dog

he has a straw dog

 

[Zeno]

I don't believe Stout even has a dog

Well, unless Rod Graves said he had a dog I doubt you would believe it.

 

[D-Dogg]

Stop trying to avoid the onus.

Onus, bonus. You know what happened to Stout's dog and now you are just playing coy. Out with it, old man! I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew.

 

[Mulli]

Onus, bonus. You know what happened to Stout's dog and now you are just playing coy. Out with it, old man! I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew.

One of you turds is about to get slapped.

 

[D-Dogg]

See that Mulli? See that?

That just happened.

 

[abomb]

What about Stout's dog's onus?

 

[Mulli]

See that Mulli? See that?

That just happened.

 

[Stout]

Leave my bit-, er, dog out of this

 

[Stout]

And you might be amazed that possibly just possibly he liked the opportunity here as that ius certianly what he is saying.

I think the onus is on you naysayers to show where he is lying.

It's relevant to go all the way back, since I am saying it never used to be the practice. Like I also said, it seems to be a new trend.

I don't mind that we kept the ACs on, at face value. I do mind that Graves, rather clearly said the final decision rests with him. That thought I do not like. If Whiz likes a guy and Graves stubbornly insists on Pendy, then we'll keep Pendy. While this is an extreme situation and I hope unlikely, by Graves' own words, it could happen.

 

[Duckjake]

Well, unless Rod Graves said he had a dog I doubt you would believe it.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

No, you obviously don't get it at all, or are being purposely obtuse. If I say that my dog didn't come home last ight and you claim he did, then you're going to have to prove it. To prove the negative is unneccesary and silly. Simple rules of reasonable doubt, too. A man doesn't have to prove he's not guilty--he has to be proven guilty. Sorry, unless you can prove that retaining the previous coaching staff has been historically the norm in the NFL, then there's no discussion. I don't have to look it up and prove it.

As per usual, and anyone who has attended this board will know: It always starts with some biased assertion, and when confronted... bluff and prevarication... usually followed by loud boast and ending with a 6 of one... half a dozen of the other... two legs firmly planted in the air position on whatever. You are a basic elementary school bully. You are so predictable. It's too bad there wasn't a good Jesuit in your earlier life to slap this silly sophistry out of you.

 

[40yearfan]

What about Stout's dog's onus?

What?? Has he got hemorroids?

 

[Stout]

As per usual, and anyone who has attended this board will know: It always starts with some biased assertion, and when confronted... bluff and prevarication... usually followed by loud boast and ending with a 6 of one... half a dozen of the other... two legs firmly planted in the air position on whatever. You are a basic elementary school bully. You are so predictable. It's too bad there wasn't a good Jesuit in your earlier life to slap this silly sophistry out of you.

I'm an elementary school bully? Interesting. Pretty much the whole board knows that it has not, in the NFL's past, been common practice to retain the staff of a fired coach. It is something that's pretty much a given, with a few exceptions. Instead of using that as a starting post, I was ordered to research it and prove it. I said it was a silly thought, and it is a silly thought.

Dude, what is your malfunction? You've basically managed to drag me down to an argument about an argument. I was trying to stay on target in discussing Pendy/Graves, and it became about the above stuff when you jumped in. So now I'm all bluff and prevarication, loud boast and 6 of one? Yeah, that's a common phrase of mine. You seem to try to make it sound like it should have negative connotations. Hey, whatever you want to think, man. I'm not trying to insult you. No need for the acid of your above quote. I'm above that (well, in this case, anyway ) and will not sink to it. Chiiiiill, Winstooooon.

 

[Stout]

As per usual, and anyone who has attended this board will know: It always starts with some biased assertion, and when confronted... bluff and prevarication... usually followed by loud boast and ending with a 6 of one... half a dozen of the other... two legs firmly planted in the air position on whatever. You are a basic elementary school bully. You are so predictable. It's too bad there wasn't a good Jesuit in your earlier life to slap this silly sophistry out of you.

And how is it a biased assertation? As anyone with football knowledge can tell you, it has not been common practice over the years to retain the staff of a fired HC. It has happened, but not on the main. That makes it a pretty reasonable assertation in my book.

 

[BACH]

I'm an elementary school bully? Interesting. Pretty much the whole board knows that it has not, in the NFL's past, been common practice to retain the staff of a fired coach. It is something that's pretty much a given, with a few exceptions. Instead of using that as a starting post, I was ordered to research it and prove it. I said it was a silly thought, and it is a silly thought.

The silly part is you trying to prove a point based on the wrong material.

It's well-known that teams are protecting/not allowing their assistent coaches to move much more now than just three years ago.

You wanted research. Here you go.... And then you tell me, that keeping assisents isn't the norm TODAY - not 10 years ago, but TODAY.

5 teams have/had HC openings.

- So far we're keeping 5 (5 coaches + all 3 strength and conditioning coaches)
- Atlanta kept 5 assistent coaches.
- The Dolphins are so far keeping 14 assistents.
- The Raiders are so far keeping 16 assistents.
- The Steelers are keeping 13 (Granted, that is a unique situation)

 

[Stout]

The silly part is you trying to prove a point based on the wrong material.

It's well-known that teams are protecting/not allowing their assistent coaches to move much more now than just three years ago.

You wanted research. Here you go.... And then you tell me, that keeping assisents isn't the norm TODAY - not 10 years ago, but TODAY.

5 teams have/had HC openings.

- So far we're keeping 5 (5 coaches + all 3 strength and conditioning coaches)
- Atlanta kept 5 assistent coaches.
- The Dolphins are so far keeping 14 assistents.
- The Raiders are so far keeping 16 assistents.
- The Steelers are keeping 13 (Granted, that is a unique situation)

Um, you're preaching to the choir, brother. I've said numerous times that starting this year it seems to be becoming more prevelant. You needn't have bothered with that, you know. I was simply flabbergasted that someone tried to tell me I unequivocably had to go back and provide proof that teams IN THE PAST did not usually keep the staff of the fired HC.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm an elementary school bully? Interesting. Pretty much the whole board knows that it has not, in the NFL's past, been common practice to retain the staff of a fired coach. It is something that's pretty much a given, with a few exceptions. Instead of using that as a starting post, I was ordered to research it and prove it. I said it was a silly thought, and it is a silly thought.

Dude, what is your malfunction? You've basically managed to drag me down to an argument about an argument. I was trying to stay on target in discussing Pendy/Graves, and it became about the above stuff when you jumped in. So now I'm all bluff and prevarication, loud boast and 6 of one? Yeah, that's a common phrase of mine. You seem to try to make it sound like it should have negative connotations. Hey, whatever you want to think, man. I'm not trying to insult you. No need for the acid of your above quote. I'm above that (well, in this case, anyway ) and will not sink to it. Chiiiiill, Winstooooon.

Why am i picturing the Monty Python skit about going to the argument clinic?
www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

this is better
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppK6sxz6epk&mode=related&search=

 

[Capital Card]

this is better
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppK6sxz6epk&mode=related&search=

classic

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm an elementary school bully? Interesting. Pretty much the whole board knows that it has not, in the NFL's past, been common practice to retain the staff of a fired coach. It is something that's pretty much a given, with a few exceptions. Instead of using that as a starting post, I was ordered to research it and prove it. I said it was a silly thought, and it is a silly thought.

Dude, what is your malfunction? You've basically managed to drag me down to an argument about an argument. I was trying to stay on target in discussing Pendy/Graves, and it became about the above stuff when you jumped in. So now I'm all bluff and prevarication, loud boast and 6 of one? Yeah, that's a common phrase of mine. You seem to try to make it sound like it should have negative connotations. Hey, whatever you want to think, man. I'm not trying to insult you. No need for the acid of your above quote. I'm above that (well, in this case, anyway ) and will not sink to it. Chiiiiill, Winstooooon.

Well, if I may suggest - try harder.

(Anyway, I didn't mean to be so insulting but it was, I can see. Please accept my apologies.)