How Many Years Do JG And MO Get?

[Chopper0080]

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Schism between coaches and Monti?

Knives are out for Monti. Crazy.



Kyle didn't have to be so savage.

I ma glad he did.

 

[Chopper0080]

NO ONE WAS SAYING THIS AT THE TIME. Did Johnny V get fired by the PHNX crew?

Nah. That group is as fickle as the wind.

 

[602 Native]

Schism between coaches and Monti?

I ma glad he did.

No doubt.

Our local media are kittens in terms of how a crap NFL franchise is treated.

I have heard radio shows from other NFL cities and the Cards and Bidwill have a cakewalk comparitively.

 

[Chopper0080]

No doubt.

Our local media are kittens in terms of how a crap NFL franchise is treated.

I have heard radio shows from other NFL cities and the Cards and Bidwill have a cakewalk comparitively.

The interesting part is how a trade for a player like Maxx Crosby would change the conversation. Monti could easily come out and say that injuries have hit the roster hard, but the team is committed to winning which is why they added a top player.

 

[DVontel]

The interesting part is how a trade for a player like Maxx Crosby would change the conversation. Monti could easily come out and say that injuries have hit the roster hard, but the team is committed to winning which is why they added a top player.

Imagine being Maxx Crosby, going from one loser franchise to another loser franchise.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Imagine being Maxx Crosby, going from one loser franchise to another loser franchise.

He'd fit right in!

 

[Chopper0080]

Imagine being Maxx Crosby, going from one loser franchise to another loser franchise.

JJ Watt on this board?

 

[602 Native]

The interesting part is how a trade for a player like Maxx Crosby would change the conversation. Monti could easily come out and say that injuries have hit the roster hard, but the team is committed to winning which is why they added a top player.

The Cards are not that adept at controlling the narrative. Look at how Mikey handle the McDonough saga. Dude could have easily been silent but went out and hired a character hitman. Total clown show.

Go get Crosby and at least show the fanbase you are trying to be competitive on defense.

 

[602 Native]

People are waking up to MO doing drafts the Patriot Way.
Adding zero talent through it.

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[Crimson Warrior]

hmmm.... Still too early too judge this draft class but let's take a look at how they're doing so far:

• 1 (4): WR Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State - maybe underperforming slightly -will probably work out
• 1 (27): EDGE Darius Robinson, Missouri - unknown
• 2 (43): CB Max Melton, Rutgers - has shown promise - certainly not a bust yet
• 3 (66): RB Trey Benson, Florida State - not exactly setting the world on fire
• 3 (71): OT Isaiah Adams, Illinois - got some snaps against GB - is still a "maybe"
• 3 (82): TE Tip Reiman, Illinois - Chris's whipping boy - not his fault he was drafted so high!
• 3 (90): CB Elijah Jones, Boston College - on IR - has yet to record a tackle or anything
• 4 (104): S Taylor Dadrion-Demerson , Texas Tech - hmmm... probably overperforming so far
• 5 (138): EDGE Xavier Thomas, Clemson - healthy scratch in recent weeks - can't beat out Okwara?
• 5 (162): OT Christian Jones, Texas - IR
• 5 (191): WR Tejhaun Palmer, UAB - practice squad
• 7 (226): CB Jaden Davis, Miami - practice squad i think

If (big if) Robinson and Harrison meet expectations, all will be forgiven for 2024, especially if Benson comes around, and we also get a solid starter out of Melton, Adams or TDD.

I think most of the time you make your own luck in life, but MO sure isn't getting any love from the football gods with all the injuries.

Sucks for everybody but we have to stay cool.

 

[Chopper0080]

Denver paid John Franklin Meyers 7.5 mil over 2 years in FA this year. 3 sacks and 6 pressures.

Monti paid Justin Jones and Bilal Nichols a combined 17 mil per year. 0 sacks and 2 pressures.

 

[kerouac9]

Denver paid John Franklin Meyers 7.5 mil over 2 years in FA this year. 3 sacks and 6 pressures.

Monti paid Justin Jones and Bilal Nichols a combined 17 mil per year. 0 sacks and 2 pressures.

You don't understand. He wouldn't have a player of the quality of Zach Allen making life easy for him.

 

[Ronin]

Howard Balzer

@HBalzer721

In case anyone was wondering, Cardinals won their third game last season in Week 13.

 

[BACH]

hmmm.... Still too early too judge this draft class but let's take a look at how they're doing so far:

• 1 (4): WR Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State - maybe underperforming slightly -will probably work out
• 1 (27): EDGE Darius Robinson, Missouri - unknown
• 2 (43): CB Max Melton, Rutgers - has shown promise - certainly not a bust yet
• 3 (66): RB Trey Benson, Florida State - not exactly setting the world on fire
• 3 (71): OT Isaiah Adams, Illinois - got some snaps against GB - is still a "maybe"
• 3 (82): TE Tip Reiman, Illinois - Chris's whipping boy - not his fault he was drafted so high!
• 3 (90): CB Elijah Jones, Boston College - on IR - has yet to record a tackle or anything
• 4 (104): S Taylor Dadrion-Demerson , Texas Tech - hmmm... probably overperforming so far
• 5 (138): EDGE Xavier Thomas, Clemson - healthy scratch in recent weeks - can't beat out Okwara?
• 5 (162): OT Christian Jones, Texas - IR
• 5 (191): WR Tejhaun Palmer, UAB - practice squad
• 7 (226): CB Jaden Davis, Miami - practice squad i think

If (big if) Robinson and Harrison meet expectations, all will be forgiven for 2024, especially if Benson comes around, and we also get a solid starter out of Melton, Adams or TDD.

I think most of the time you make your own luck in life, but MO sure isn't getting any love from the football gods with all the injuries.

Sucks for everybody but we have to stay cool.

You cannot rate a draft class after 1/2 season IMO.

How about looking t last season:

2023​	1​	1​	6​	6​	Paris Johnson​	T​	Ohio State​
	2​	2​	10​	41​	BJ Ojulari​	LB​	Louisiana State​
	3​	3​	9​	72​	Garrett Williams​	DB​	Syracuse​
	4​	3​	31​	94​	Michael Wilson​	WR​	Stanford​
	5​	4​	20​	122​	Jon Gaines​	G​	UCLA​
	6​	5​	4​	139​	Clayton Tune​	QB​	Houston​
	7​	5​	33​	168​	Owen Pappoe​	LB​	Auburn​
	8​	6​	3​	180​	Kei'Trel Clark​	DB​	Louisville​
	9​	6​	36​	213​	Dante Stills​	DT​	West Virginia​

You have a top 10 OT, a potential rising star at CB, a starting WR, a talented but injured edge and 5 qualified back-ups.

That pretty damn solid

 

[Stout]

You cannot rate a draft class after 1/2 season IMO.

How about looking t last season:

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2023​	1​	1​	6​	6​	Paris Johnson​	T​	Ohio State​
	2​	2​	10​	41​	BJ Ojulari​	LB​	Louisiana State​
	3​	3​	9​	72​	Garrett Williams​	DB​	Syracuse​
	4​	3​	31​	94​	Michael Wilson​	WR​	Stanford​
	5​	4​	20​	122​	Jon Gaines​	G​	UCLA​
	6​	5​	4​	139​	Clayton Tune​	QB​	Houston​
	7​	5​	33​	168​	Owen Pappoe​	LB​	Auburn​
	8​	6​	3​	180​	Kei'Trel Clark​	DB​	Louisville​
	9​	6​	36​	213​	Dante Stills​	DT​	West Virginia​

You have a top 10 OT, a potential rising star at CB, a starting WR, a talented but injured edge and 5 qualified back-ups.

That pretty damn solid

FTFY I mean, backups in name only--there is nothing to crow about with any of those backups save for Dante Stills. Qualified as in they are on the roster and thus backups? That's about it. Also, we have an injured edge. Talented is being overly generous. I'm cautiously optimistic about Garret Williams, but not ready to name him a rising star. I agree on PJJ and MW.

 

[kerouac9]

a talented but injured edge

Citation needed

 

[602 Native]

Howard Balzer

@HBalzer721

In case anyone was wondering, Cardinals won their third game last season in Week 13.

Perspective is an amazing drug.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

You cannot rate a draft class after 1/2 season IMO.

How about looking t last season:

​

2023​	1​	1​	6​	6​	Paris Johnson​	T​	Ohio State​
	2​	2​	10​	41​	BJ Ojulari​	LB​	Louisiana State​
	3​	3​	9​	72​	Garrett Williams​	DB​	Syracuse​
	4​	3​	31​	94​	Michael Wilson​	WR​	Stanford​
	5​	4​	20​	122​	Jon Gaines​	G​	UCLA​
	6​	5​	4​	139​	Clayton Tune​	QB​	Houston​
	7​	5​	33​	168​	Owen Pappoe​	LB​	Auburn​
	8​	6​	3​	180​	Kei'Trel Clark​	DB​	Louisville​
	9​	6​	36​	213​	Dante Stills​	DT​	West Virginia​

You have a top 10 OT, a potential rising star at CB, a starting WR, a talented but injured edge and 5 qualified back-ups.

That pretty damn solid

Nice!

Can we do "over performing and underperforming" for the 2023 class too??

• Round 1 | Pick 6 Paris Johnson Jr. - meeting expectations!
• Round 2 | Pick 41 BJ Ojulari - underperforming, but there's still hope!
• Round 3 | Pick 72 Garrett Williams - wow! What a great pick and overperforming!
• Round 3 | Pick 94 Michael Wilson - he's not elevating K1 so I like to phoo phoo him!
• Round 4, Pick 122 Jon Gaines II - still on the team but hasn't contributed much? Is he in on special teams? I thought I saw him in for at least one play this past Monday night.
• Round 5, Pick 139 Clayton Tune - big and strong. Stands tall in the pocket like Stafford and Donald
• Round 6, Pick 168 Owen Pappoe - playing meaningful minutes. Not invisible. I'll say overperforming a little.
• Round 6, Pick 180 - Kei’Trel Clark - sticking as a back up so far so not bad. - same grade as Pappoe
• Round 6, Pick 213*- Dante Stills - significantly overperforming and a great pick!

Looks good so far but it's fate may hinge on if we ever get any production from Ojulari.

 

[kerouac9]

Perspective is an amazing drug.

What is your takeaway from this fact?