How Smart is BA?

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Maybe he’s a great deal slicker than he’s credited for being.

First a quick aside to Ed B about the repost in a thread below. Thanks for the “genius” reference but you really give me too much credit. I merely made a couple of observations and characterizations based on what was an excellent article I linked end. I thought everyone should be aware of it and it now seems particularly apropos in light of this game. When I’m truly working in genius mode I focus on my own thoughts. I will admit I was frustrated that several people didn’t see Seattle’s offensive change as important. I don’t know that I have ever seen such a dramatic, yet effective, strategy change mid-season.

One thought I’m having is how slick is BA? Surely the Cards must have been aware the Seahawks changed offenses, yet they played primarily the same defensive alignments they played in Seattle. For example, Bucannon shadowed Wilson instead of dropping back in coverage this left the center of the field open. It also meant on running plays, Wilson’s movement actually took Bucannon out of the running lane. It’s hard to image the Cards didn’t alter their strategy for this game unless they simply didn’t intend to show a modified defense to Seattle. At first I thought I must be nuts to think this conspiracy-like theory, but after re-watching the tape the Cards never really adjusted. Well maybe a little in quarter 3. They used only a few of their blitz packages and rarely switched up the coverage. There was no attempt to confuse Wilson. They played almost like it was a pre-season game. So what do you think, did the Cards simply hold back their defensive game plan?

Of course this doesn’t mitigate the special teams disaster. The offense looked bad as well, but again they were very bland in play selection. The Cards attempted few screens, no draws and very little play action. There were almost no misdirection plays. They did throw deep, however, showing very poor execution. Nobody dropped a ball on purpose, they just played with no intensity.

In the end with all the offensive honors at stake, I’m sure BA played the passing game straight. I also know it’s hard to make play action work without an effective running game. The offense played poorly, but clearly didn’t expose all their options. Finally, if the Cards do end up hosting the Seahawks, I don’t think a Cardinal victory is guaranteed, but I suspect Seattle will find itself is a far different game than the one they just enjoyed.
 

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Should the Cards win their first game, they most likely will play either the Panthers or Seahawks. Both teams have scrambling quarterbacks and it may have been wise not to tip their hand on how they will defend either offense.


Edit to add: Yes, special teams are a disaster!!

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This was my hope and prayer Harry and posted something similar (not nearly as in depth) in another thread.

Plus if you listen to BA's post game comments he blames it on a poor week of practice and yet P2 and Fitz seemed confused by those comments during their interviews. I'm not thinking it's a rift on the team but to your point BA being slick. Get the players super focused and hungry during practice even though the game plans were purposely vanilla and ergo left the players little chance of succeeding.
 

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that game reminded me of playing the Packers the final week of the 2009 season when everyone knew ( and i think it was a 100% certainty by game time) that the two teams would meet the following week in Wildcard weekend

the Cards looked awful and inept -- IIRC, the final score was pretty similar to yesterday --- yet the next week, a different story

my working theory at this point:

1. BA couldnt say anything other than "we will go all out" -- even if that wasnt the case
2. I think he clearly didnt want to show anything to a team he could very well see in the divisional or conf champ game
3. Players aren't dumb: they would see the importance the staff placed on this game via the gameplan. Calais Campbell referenced an altered game plan during the Big Red Rage.
4. While Arians would have preferred 100% effort, the game plan sabotaged that message.
5. I have little doubt that Palmer was under instructions to take no hits. There were at least three or four throws where ordinarily stand and deliver, but instead yesterday threw early to avoid a hit.
 
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that game reminded me of playing the Packers the final week of the 2009 season when everyone knew ( and i think it was a 100% certainty by game time) that the two teams would meet the following week in Wildcard weekend

the Cards looked awful and inept -- IIRC, the final score was pretty similar to yesterday --- yet the next week, a different story

my working theory at this point:

1. BA couldnt say anything other than "we will go all out" -- even if that wasnt the case
2. I think he clearly didnt want to show anything to a team he could very well see in the divisional or conf champ game
3. Players aren't dumb: they would see the importance the staff placed on this game via the gameplan. Calais Campbell referenced an altered game plan during the Big Red Rage.
4. While Arians would have preferred 100% effort, the game plan sabotaged that message.
5. I have little doubt that Palmer was under instructions to take no hits. There were at least three or four throws where ordinarily stand and deliver, but instead yesterday threw early to avoid a hit.

Yeah, I think every coach has done that, not just BA.
 

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Thanks, I haven't gotten to that thread yet. I will say that Harry goes into more detail and having been in the NFL holds a bit more credibility for me. :D

Harry was in the NFL?
 
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Harry was not in the NFL as a player. I played a little in college before I blew out my knee. Like Kiper I got my start evaluating players for pulications and the Internet when it came into business. I also wrote article for publications like the Football Digest. I got to the AZ board by accident. I was doing a chat with a Cardinal bent for The Sporting News when I was asked to write for a board they were starting in AZ. We eventually went to Rivals. I hosted draft chats, wrote articles (including Monday Musings)and we had very extensive draft info on the site that got the right people's attention. I started some doing paid scouting and Rivals went college only (long story). This board eventually evolved. I wrote when I could then mostly retired. But I guess I can't resist putting in my 2 cents.

The closest I got to the big time was evaluating players for services that worked for the NFL. I did get some nice perks including getting into press boxes, locker rooms and even on the field in all-star games. I've met quite a few players, front office guys and even agents. On occasion I did get to work with a few of the best talent evaluators in the business. Most of my time was spent as a stringer. I'd get get asked to go to specific games and evaluate players. Most services don't like working exclusively with tape if they can avoid it.

On the board I can share some of what I've seen, but some is proprietary. It's been a fine ride and I'm grateful to the various sites for the exposure they've given me. I'm now 68, so I travel mostly for fun and look at players only as favors. I can get some others evaluations if I don't ask too often.
 

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Harry was not in the NFL as a player. I played a little in college before I blew out my knee. Like Kiper I got my start evaluating players for pulications and the Internet when it came into business. I also wrote article for publications like the Football Digest. I got to the AZ board by accident. I was doing a chat with a Cardinal bent for The Sporting News when I was asked to write for a board they were starting in AZ. We eventually went to Rivals. I hosted draft chats, wrote articles (including Monday Musings)and we had very extensive draft info on the site that got the right people's attention. I started some doing paid scouting and Rivals went college only (long story). This board eventually evolved. I wrote when I could then mostly retired. But I guess I can't resist putting in my 2 cents.

The closest I got to the big time was evaluating players for services that worked for the NFL. I did get some nice perks including getting into press boxes, locker rooms and even on the field in all-star games. I've met quite a few players, front office guys and even agents. On occasion I did get to work with a few of the best talent evaluators in the business. Most of my time was spent as a stringer. I'd get get asked to go to specific games and evaluate players. Most services don't like working exclusively with tape if they can avoid it.

On the board I can share some of what I've seen, but some is proprietary. It's been a fine ride and I'm grateful to the various sites for the exposure they've given me. I'm now 68, so I travel mostly for fun and look at players only as favors. I can get some others evaluations if I don't ask too often.

I for one, am happy to have your insight!
Thanks for hanging around.
 

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Harry was not in the NFL as a player. I played a little in college before I blew out my knee. Like Kiper I got my start evaluating players for pulications and the Internet when it came into business. I also wrote article for publications like the Football Digest. I got to the AZ board by accident. I was doing a chat with a Cardinal bent for The Sporting News when I was asked to write for a board they were starting in AZ. We eventually went to Rivals. I hosted draft chats, wrote articles (including Monday Musings)and we had very extensive draft info on the site that got the right people's attention. I started some doing paid scouting and Rivals went college only (long story). This board eventually evolved. I wrote when I could then mostly retired. But I guess I can't resist putting in my 2 cents.

The closest I got to the big time was evaluating players for services that worked for the NFL. I did get some nice perks including getting into press boxes, locker rooms and even on the field in all-star games. I've met quite a few players, front office guys and even agents. On occasion I did get to work with a few of the best talent evaluators in the business. Most of my time was spent as a stringer. I'd get get asked to go to specific games and evaluate players. Most services don't like working exclusively with tape if they can avoid it.

On the board I can share some of what I've seen, but some is proprietary. It's been a fine ride and I'm grateful to the various sites for the exposure they've given me. I'm now 68, so I travel mostly for fun and look at players only as favors. I can get some others evaluations if I don't ask too often.

We'll all be waiting for the book!
 

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I'm seeing a lot of Seattle to Carolina posts, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikings beat Seattle at home, in the cold. They are also playing good football.

Could easily be the Panthers who get Washington/GB and us that get a tougher Vikings team.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of Seattle to Carolina posts, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vikings beat Seattle at home, in the cold. They are also playing good football.

Could easily be the Panthers who get Washington/GB and us that get a tougher Vikings team.

It would take a monster effort from the Bikes defense because Bridgewater cannot carry that team.
 

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