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SECTION 11 said:
Hugh Douglas
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Chopper0080
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I'll admit that at first I was in the "sign him now" mode but the mroe I think about it, the more I believe that money would be a huge problem. I would grab him for the vet min, but I doubt that is what he wants and we don't need any baggage contracts heading into next season.
The major doubt with Douglas is if he has anything left and if Jack Del Rio doesn't think he does, I may tend to think he knows defensive players and what they need to succeed. If the Pathers, Ravens and Patriots think a guy is done, I will have to believe that they know what they are talking about. The same goes for Lovie Smith and Jack Del Rio. These guys are very good defensive coaches and I have to take their word on defensive talent.
The major doubt with Douglas is if he has anything left and if Jack Del Rio doesn't think he does, I may tend to think he knows defensive players and what they need to succeed. If the Pathers, Ravens and Patriots think a guy is done, I will have to believe that they know what they are talking about. The same goes for Lovie Smith and Jack Del Rio. These guys are very good defensive coaches and I have to take their word on defensive talent.
LVCARDFREAK
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seesred said:
Anyone watchingthe Jaguars training camp show on the NFL Network? It seemed like Del Rio and Douglas were very very close. Always kidding around together etc etc.
Must have been tough on Del Rio to cut him and Brakens in a 2weeks span!
BACH
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SECTION 11 said:
The Jets actually drafted Douglas with "our" pick.
Buddy traded that pick to the Jets for Rob Moore.
I would pass on Douglas, 3.5 sacks, nagging injuries, and 33 yrs old, doesn't help the Cards. Kyle VB will be more productive than that if he gets the reps and stays healthy.
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Red Fury said:
I will have to wait and see on douglas, but what is killing me is when people say that KVB will be more productive. There is no evidence that KVB will be a more productive player even though we all would love that. I know he is a great person and a hard worker, but there is nothing to support that idea based on his career so far.
OP
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IF he stays healthy. KVB is a monster and a good choice for the starting role, but the Cards atleast need to think of 16+ game season instead of hoping that someone with two bad knees can stay healthy. If not Douglas, someone needs to step up and deliver. Dockett needs to be at DT.Red Fury said:
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Am I wrong? Didnt KVB start an entire season? Wasnt he MIA?
Lex
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I think KVB looks good, good enough to move Dockett back inside. If you noticed during the faider scrimmage, whenever we needed an important stop on defense, KVB came in, and Dockett went to UT. I think that will be how we start the season on the D-line.
So far, KVB has two sacks and a forced fumble in limited playing time. I believe he's got the most sacks of any of our D-lineman.
So far, KVB has two sacks and a forced fumble in limited playing time. I believe he's got the most sacks of any of our D-lineman.
I agree with 11 on this one. The guy is way overrated.SECTION 11 said:
clif
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MadCardDisease said:
overrated is a stretch... the guy has 77 sacks in 9 years.
DieHardCardFan
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I think this guy is going to want way to much money and is definitly playing the last couple years of his career. The dude only produced 3 1/2 sacks last year. He would be great if we could bring him in for very very little money. But he is set to make 3.5 mill this year, we dont have the cap room to take on this type of gamble!
AzWins23
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He will end up in Washington!! You heard it first!
clif
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who cares what he wants... i just say bring him in and offer the guy the minimum with some incentives.. if he does not want it then he can walkCardLogic said:
Reggie White is the all time sack leader. He is available. Maybe we should go after him instead.clif said:
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MadCardDisease said:Reggie White is the all time sack leader. He is available. Maybe we should go after him instead.
so are you trying to discredit my statement by making an outlandish claim???
the guy put up very nice numbers over an extended period.. that does not constitute overrated. Is he a world beater? no but he clearly has the experience and know how that he warrants a look.
DieHardCardFan
Dallas 2011
clif said:
This would be assuming he clears waivers first! If we take him off waivers we would be looking at a big salary!
All I'm saying is that he is at the end of his career. Signing him would be like signing Bruce Smith. They just don't have what it takes anymore.clif said:
clif
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of course... i just dont buy that we completely pass on the guy because he only had 3 sacks last year... we need people who can get to the Qb... so give him the vet min and make a few bells if he does what we need him to do.CardLogic said:
clif
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too early to tell if he is over the hill... give him the vet min and see what he does.MadCardDisease said:
No way will he want to play of Vet Min. Especially for a team like the Cardinals.clif said:
Capital Card
The Kobayashi of Kool-Aid
I don't understand all the "bring him in for the Vet minimum" comments. If we pick him up on waivers, we pick up his contract with the Jags. That is 3.5 million.
If he clears waivers, he won't come here for the vet minimum. Heck, I don't think he'll go anywhere for the vet minimum, but for the sake of arguement lets say he does.
Vet min here vs. Vet minimum with any team with even a slight chance at the post season is a race that we lose 9 out of 10 times.
So the question is, will Bill Bidwill risk $3.5 Million dollars of his cash that Hugh Douglas still has "it"? Factor in that he already opened his wallet for Bertrand Berry. The revenue streams from the new stadium are coming, but they aren't here yet.
Go Cards!!!
If he clears waivers, he won't come here for the vet minimum. Heck, I don't think he'll go anywhere for the vet minimum, but for the sake of arguement lets say he does.
Vet min here vs. Vet minimum with any team with even a slight chance at the post season is a race that we lose 9 out of 10 times.
So the question is, will Bill Bidwill risk $3.5 Million dollars of his cash that Hugh Douglas still has "it"? Factor in that he already opened his wallet for Bertrand Berry. The revenue streams from the new stadium are coming, but they aren't here yet.
Go Cards!!!
