interview now on 1060 AM - Warner is airborne on private jet

[WildBB]

If what he is saying about the 2nd year being a team option is true, that's hard to argue with.


Too bad. This team continues to just suck at PR.

You bet your damn Bippy it's hard to swallow. This sheds a new light on the situation! If this IS TRUE it's very damning on the ownership's part. It shows they are not prepared to do what it takes to win at all costs.

If true Sarver should get a medal for this year. The Bidwill's should be kicked out on their duffs out of the valley!

Kurt Warner, the Cardinals’ star quarterback and the best thing to happen to Phoenix since air conditioning, will spend time this week flirting with the San Francisco 49ers. Not because he wants to, but because the Arizona ownership can’t be bothered to simply do the right thing: pay Warner the money he is worth. According to a source close to Warner, he has been offered what amounts to a one-year deal, with one season at $10 million, and a team option for a second year at the same terms. That’s well short of the commitment Warner was hoping for: a two-year pact for around $14 million per season – a number that comes out to slightly less than the average of the top five quarterback salaries in the league.

Photo Warner threw for 377 yards in the Super Bowl against Pittsburgh.
(Chris McGarth/Getty Images)

So here we are, with Arizona’s competitive fate hanging in the balance, all because the Cardinals believe Warner is worth only $1.5 million more than what the Tennessee Titans have guaranteed to Kerry Collins. You wanted to believe this was a franchise capable of finally making the right move, and that when Bill Bidwill hoisted the NFC championship trophy in January, he was lifting up the beacon of a new era. But if that were true, the family would have stepped in by now and told the front office to get Warner’s deal done.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

Any chance this is a "feel good" ploy by Warner? Have the 49ers offer him a bigger contract, turns it down to show the fans of Arizona how commited he is to the team. With this commitment, the cardinals offer him more?

Plus he gets a ride on a private jet, a limo, and gets a great meal.

 

[Mitch]

If true and the 2nd year was an option year, then Robinsons article is dead on the the Bidillws shoot themselves in the foot once again, and all the talk about Warner being greedy, feelings shouldnt be hurt and so on was for naught becuase Warner is absolutely correct in his thoughts. "IF" that contract is true then it is the Cards who are completely in the wrong and I dont fault Warner one bit.

I think what Robinson meant Joe, is that it "amounts" to a second year option if only one half of the money is guaranteed.

The thing is...we don't know what was offered...what's very discouraging though is that on the eve of Warner's trip, the Cardinals made no contact with Warner's agent and were simply standing pat on their offer, almost as if they were calling Kurt's bluff.

Only, obviously, this was no bluff.

 

[WildBB]

Actually I'm having fun just watching this play out and reading the message board. Hey, I'm a Card fan but the sun will rise tomorrow morning regardless of whatever Warner does.

This has gotten NOT A BIT AMUSING!

 

[football karma]

all contracts are a "team option" on a year to year basis

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

We were going to give him 10-12...and he's as hot a QB as there is in money games...why not spend the extra 3 to keep him and see if the Cardinals can win one?

Sometimes you do have to overpay a player who can get you there.

But if you give Warner an extra 3 mill,who's to say that Dockett, Boldin, Wilson, and others shouldn't get extra money. It has a snowball effect. I know Warner's the QB but there is replacement in line. Who would replace Dockett. He could argue that he is every bit as valueable. It's moot because he has a contract but i'm using him as an example.

 

[joeshmo]

I think what Robinson meant Joe, is that it "amounts" to a second year option if only one half of the money is guaranteed.

The thing is...we don't know what was offered...what's very discouraging though is that on the eve of Warner's trip, the Cardinals made no contact with Warner's agent and were simply standing pat on their offer, almost as if they were calling Kurt's bluff.

Only, obviously, this was no bluff.

No we dont know what was actually offered and the articles wording could mean a lot of things, it was very ambigious.

 

[CtCardinals78]

A 38 year old QB shouldn't expect to get more than one year. I wanted the deal to be no more than 8M, but I can deal with 10M if the 2nd year is a team option.

I really like the contract from our FO.

Yup excellent or not he is 38 years old and has an injury history. That was a good deal either way.

 

[Renz]

According to a source close to Warner, he has been offered what amounts to a one-year deal, with one season at $10 million, and a team option for a second year at the same terms.

If that were true, Warner's agent would have leaked that info. weeks ago. Robinson's 'source' is full of it, IMO.

 

[WildBB]

I think what Robinson meant Joe, is that it "amounts" to a second year option if only one half of the money is guaranteed.

The thing is...we don't know what was offered...what's very discouraging though is that on the eve of Warner's trip, the Cardinals made no contact with Warner's agent and were simply standing pat on their offer, almost as if they were calling Kurt's bluff.

Only, obviously, this was no bluff.

They knew it wasn't any bluff. I thought they offered 20M guaranteed. They didn't! I'm pissed.

Who thought the 2 year 20M offer wasn't for guaranteed $$$$?!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Why would you Gurantee a 38 year old QB entire salary? or any player for that matter?

 

[doctor]

If Warner signs with SF, I fully expect us to have a season similar to Green Bay with Aaron Rogers taking over. KW is truly worth 3 or 4 games just on his experience and handling the blitz

 

[DemsMyBoys]

By the way, nobody should be giving KW crap if he gets an extra $5mil/year signing somewhere else. Religion or no religion, the guy has an obligation to his family for generations to come not to mention the countless charities he donates to.

Let's remember that one of Kurt's sons has some pretty severe disabilities and I think Kurt is thinking of him. I sure would be.

 

[WildBB]

If that were true, Warner's agent would have leaked that info. weeks ago. Robinson's 'source' is full of it, IMO.

He's saying the Cardinals only offered 1.5M more in guaranteed $$$$ than Collins got. That's freaking ridiculous!!

 

[Mainstreet]

I just think the Cardinals made a calculated decision they weren't going to pay KW more than what they thought he was worth. IMO, Whiz is on board with this decision and that is good enough for me.

 

[WildBB]

Why would you Gurantee a 38 year old QB entire salary? or any player for that matter?

C'mon. Everybody who heard the offer of 20M for 2 yrs. thought it was a legitimate guaranteed contract.

 

[CardLogic]

Charles Robinson already breaking out the "Cheap Bidwills":

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...slug=cr-cardswarner030209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Is the author of this article Bartlestein's brother-in-law or something?

He (Warner) helped turn Anquan Boldin into one of the biggest bargains in football.

Really? Silly me, I thought Boldin became one of the biggest bargins in football his first NFL game over six seasons ago. Warner wasn't even on the team then...

 

[Renz]

C'mon. Everybody who heard the offer of 20M for 2 yrs. thought it was a legitimate guaranteed contract.

But it's not because an anonymous source 'close to Warner' on Yahoo! said it wasn't? Jeez dude, get real.

 

[joeshmo]

They knew it wasn't any bluff. I thought they offered 20M guaranteed. They didn't! I'm pissed.

Who thought the 2 year 20M offer wasn't for guaranteed $$$$?!

They didnt offer 20 mill gauranteed. The story is that 20 mill was the total value with half of it being gauranteed.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

C'mon. Everybody who heard the offer of 20M for 2 yrs. thought it was a legitimate guaranteed contract.

Why? then why not just give him 20 million for one season? It makes no sense to guarantee both years...

My contract propsal would've been 2 for 22 with 12.5 guaranteed and a signing bonus...

 

[WildBB]

I just think the Cardinals made a calculated decision they weren't going to pay KW more than what they thought he was worth. IMO, Whiz is on board with this decision and that is good enough for me.

It was a pretty ***** decision then to throw the QB who helped navigate you to the show, to not decide to bring a more competitive offer up front. 15M guaranteed is BS in this market. Even if he doesn't start in 10'.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

They knew it wasn't any bluff. I thought they offered 20M guaranteed. They didn't! I'm pissed.

Who thought the 2 year 20M offer wasn't for guaranteed $$$$?!

Where did you hear the 20M was all guaranteed? All reports said it was 2 years/20M with 10M guaranteed.

 

[WildBB]

Why? then why not just give him 20 million for one season? It makes no sense to guarantee both years...

My contract propsal would've been 2 for 22 with 12.5 guaranteed and a signing bonus...

Of course it does. You don't know if the starter will go down and they need him to step in.

Not even Warner is expecting 20M for one season. And the Cardinals didn't come close to offering that.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

People should try not to get so riled up over unconfirmed sources from non local media.

 

[joeshmo]

It was a pretty ***** decision then to throw the QB who helped navigate you to the show, to not decide to bring a more competitive offer up front. 15M guaranteed is BS in this market. Even if he doesn't start in 10'.

We are talking about a two year deal, not a 5 year deal. 15 mill gauranteed over two years isnt even close to being BS.