Is age the reason Cards suck?

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Yes, the age of the posters here. We have too much history to fall back on - a young pup would just think this season is just a bump in the road; the old timers just think it is the cycle back to the bad ol' days...
 

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Think of the units on our team that have been struggling the most and then take a look at Sando's Age Chart:

http://www.espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/29831/nfc-west-roided-out-rosters-updated-28

Cards have the oldest Oline in the NFL, 7th oldest D-line, and the 4th oldest LB's.

yes is one of the reason , the rookie here for whisehunt need 2 years of learning curve before being starters..so we have to see players like brian robinson''Methuselah'' and ''Pensioners & slower'' haggans porter and lenon( the best slower trio of the nfl)
we have a hall of fame offensive lineman player who wasnt able to develop a decent offensive line
we have a head coach ex tight-end player who wasnt able to develop a good tight-end ..and the good one we had regressed(pope-patrick)
 
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Yep.

Coupled with poor draft picks, and you get the mess we seen each week.
 

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the D-line age is heavily weighted by someone who should be retired already...
Seriously. Put Williams at nose and our age drops significantly. As for O-Line, usually being older is a good thing. The older the lineman, the better the line. Some of the greatest offensive lines in history stayed together for years. Hell, I remember Mike Webster centering the Steelers line from when I was in grammar school until the late 80's.
 

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Seriously. Put Williams at nose and our age drops significantly. As for O-Line, usually being older is a good thing. The older the lineman, the better the line. Some of the greatest offensive lines in history stayed together for years. Hell, I remember Mike Webster centering the Steelers line from when I was in grammar school until the late 80's.

Offensive line?

Faneca is the only one who is old. Brown, Sendlein, Latui and Keith are all in the first 5 years in the league
 

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It is age. But not exactly how you would think.

We have too many old guys and too many young guys and not enough middle guys. Just go check the ages in 2008. We had a lot of guys in the prime of their NFL careers. The 3-8 year experience range.
 

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It isn't the age of the unit as a whole that is the issue...the weak links on each of those units is the oldest guy. The old guys suck.
 

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It is the key positions with age... the two pass rushers are on their pension pay. No wonder we can't rush the passer. The DT almost retired and should be on the bench.
 

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Positions which age is an asset:
QB
ST? (doesn't matter much)

Positions which youth (first contract age) is an asset:
RB

Positions where players need to be in their mid to late 20s to excel:
Everything else

Now looking at that chart- At QB we are one of the youngest. Horrible.
RB we are very young!! Great.
WR we are a little too young. But our starters are in their primes.
TE we are fine age wise, just lack talent.
OL too old. This doesn't make sense to me though. Faneca is the only old one here? And Bridges.
DL too old, but only because of Robinson. Otherwise we'd be perfect or maybe even too young.
LB WAY too old esp. for a 3-4 team. This is supposed to be the pass rush position in 3-4.
DB Just about right.
ST Old. Who cares?
 

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The Magic Wand

It's natural to look for the one secret to the holy grail of winning football, so why not Age?

OK, why not age?

But what about lacking an NFL-caliber QB? (In my opinion, that's 50% or more of the problem right there)?

And then there's what I call: "lacking answers" to what other teams throw at us. What's our answer when we're being blacktopped by the other team's smashmouth RB? What's our answer when they keep completing passes to a hot TE? What's our answer to tight coverage of our WR's? What do we do to counter our RB's being stoned at the LOS? Winning teams always find a way to adjust. Unfortunately we don't.

And what about "poise?" Ever notice how winning teams find ways to bounce back from 21 - 7 halftime deficits, whereas - once we fall behind, we tend to lose our composure and stay behind?

This is one season where (with the exception of QB) our problems don't have to do with lack of player-talent. I know it's easy to blame ownership and want to fire everyone else, but I do believe we've got to take a long, hard look at the Front Office and our assistant coaching.

To be especially politically incorrect - All we've heard about for nearly 3 years is how great a coach Russ Grimm is. If so, why has our offensive line underperformed for all three seasons?

Yeah, we have a few golden-oldsters in guys like Bridges, Faneca, Joey and Bryant Robinson, but they haven't been the main cause of our decline (In fact, a case could be made that, if we didn't have Jeremy, Alan and Joey, we'd have sucked even worse).

No, there's plenty of other blame to go around (starting with those who screwed up evaluating and developing Leinart and rolled the dice on Anderson and haven't developed a premier TE for at least a decade).
 

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And what about "poise?" Ever notice how winning teams find ways to bounce back from 21 - 7 halftime deficits, whereas - once we fall behind, we tend to lose our composure and stay behind?

This is an interesting question and I'd like to steal this and create another thread.
 

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Yep.

Coupled with poor draft picks, and you get the mess we seen each week.


It all starts at the top as with any organization: Owner-General Manager-Coaches
This is basically the organizational chart for the Cardinal organization
-------Bill
! !
! Michael
! !
!---General Manager/VP Asst to Owner
! ! !
! ! !
! ! Unknown
I------Coach
I !
I !
I-------Coordinatiors/Asst Coaches
 

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It all starts at the top as with any organization: Owner-General Manager-Coaches
This is basically the organizational chart for the Cardinal organization
-------Bill
! !
! Michael
! !
!---General Manager/VP Asst to Owner
! ! !
! ! !
! ! Unknown
I------Coach
I !
I !
I-------Coordinatiors/Asst Coaches

My chart did not show up as I had written so if it looks crazy it is.
 

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