Is it really going to be a struggle to Keep Q and Fitz longterm?

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

It 3. A Tight End who we let go to the Cowboys with nothing in return became Troys go to man. This tight end also became an All-Pro for many years.

BOBCAT

Didn't they get bot Novachek and Awalt?

 

[D-Dogg]

I disagree with this entire post.

Other than the Big comment, I agree with him.

This is a different team than it had been in the past. They are extending guys before their deals end, and are keeping their core.

Remember what happened after the 98 season? Catastrophe. This last team was as good as that one, just didn't get the lucky breaks...and we are working to at LEAST maintain it, and try to improve it. Last time, we imploded.

To me, that is progress.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Other than the Big comment, I agree with him.

This is a different team than it had been in the past. They are extending guys before their deals end, and are keeping their core.

Remember what happened after the 98 season? Catastrophe. This last team was as good as that one, just didn't get the lucky breaks...and we are working to at LEAST maintain it, and try to improve it. Last time, we imploded.

To me, that is progress.

Progress indeed.

But to MD's point we are not operating like one of the premier franchise just yet. And really shouldn't that be our expectation level?

I think many would agree some of the personnel in the front office is the reason for that. Maybe even the owner.

Either way, whatever it is I hope we are ALL THE WAY THERE sometime before I die.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I totally agree with you...!!! We are not screwed or doomed like others have posted on this thread. The organization finally is really tired of losing.

What does this mean?? Should they be applauded for that??\

The Fitz contract proves that.

How???? Nobody outside of this board calls the contract a good one at all??? Graves gave Fitz practically everything he wanted in the beginning yet took forever to finally get it done. It was a pathetic job. You are letting your homerism blind you IMO.

They finally are paying their gifted players like other good teams do by paying the gifted ones what they are really worth, letting the marginal ones go as they please. For the first time they finally get it. The Fitz contract handling should show to the other players on this team and around this league that if you play up to and exceed your potential this organization will finally pay you what you are really worth and if you don not you will be let to go your own way. i.e. Calvin Pace, B. Johnson.

You say I am new to the forum and that is fine. Please dont get upset when I tell you you look new to the game when you say things like this. The same great organization you are praising drafted the guy into the wrong position and tried to fit a square peg ino a round hole for years. They finally put him in the right spot and is a proven top 5 "3-4" OLB in the NFL. Ironically, this is the same thing you say they learned from when they let BIG go. Explain yourself here please.

I think that they learned this by letting "BIG" go last year and seeing him make the pro-bowl at guard for the Cowboys.

Maybe they just didn't feel like shelling out tackle money to a guard who publicly stated that he didn't want to be here anymore.

It seems that you are very new to this forum. But I could be wrong.

How hard is it to look under my user name at when I joined?

Here is a very short list of players that have left or that the Cardinal Organization has left to go with out much in return.

1. Free Safety MacDonald to the 49er's. ALL-Pro for many years here and at San Fran.
2. Derrik Kenard for a worthless Corner from the Saint. DK made many Pro-Bowls later with the Cowboys.
3. A Tight End who we let go to the Cowboys with nothing in return became Troys go to man. This tight end also became an All-Pro for many years.
4. Lenard Davis. T/G to the cowboys where last year he made Pro-Bowl.
5. Bobby Jackson better known as Amod Rasahad (sp). Trade to the Buffalo Bills back in the days of O.J.

I could go on and on about this organization. But now they start doing things to become a winner you complain.


BOBCAT

I guess by complaining you meant that I dont praise mediocrity. You are right.

 

[Bobcat]

Didn't they get bot Novachek and Awalt?

Thank you for reminding me what their names are. People seem to forget the year that we had after the year we made the playoffs.

Cardinals let Larry Centers go, Jimar Miller go and Lomus Brown go. with nothing to show for it. We also let Aeneas go to the Rams and got back nothing in return. Also Eric Hill to the Ram's for nothing also.


BOBCAT

 

[Bobcat]

What does this mean?? Should they be applauded for that??\

How???? Nobody outside of this board calls the contract a good one at all??? Graves gave Fitz practically everything he wanted in the beginning yet took forever to finally get it done. It was a pathetic job. You are letting your homerism blind you IMO.

You say I am new to the forum and that is fine. Please dont get upset when I tell you you look new to the game when you say things like this. The same great organization you are praising drafted the guy into the wrong position and tried to fit a square peg ino a round hole for years. They finally put him in the right spot and is a proven top 5 "3-4" OLB in the NFL. Ironically, this is the same thing you say they learned from when they let BIG go. Explain yourself here please.


Maybe they just didn't feel like shelling out tackle money to a guard who publicly stated that he didn't want to be here anymore.



How hard is it to look under my user name at when I joined?

I guess by complaining you meant that I dont praise mediocrity. You are right.

Who in the Heck was mediocrate...???


BOBCAT

 

[cardsfanmd]

I understand that you are happy that the organization isn't as bad as it used to be. I am too. That doesn't mean that we should celebrate the fact that our mistakes aren't as catastrophic or monumental as they used to be.