I have a a lot of ounces of optimism left in me. The Suns drank half of my beer though, and I'm getting pretty thirsty. Hopefully soon we'll make a beer run and won't have to come back to this party. Gotta add up the nickles and dimes one by one though.
Is there an ounce of optimism left in any of you?
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Andrew
flamboyantly righteous!
Actually, never really read your posts in anything anymore, I see your username and just skip it.
Andrew
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That was never the point, the point was anything can happen
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According to Andrew's "anything is possible" mentality; it is possible that those teams went on to win multiple championships.
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Go ahead and read it. It will help you. I promise.
Andrew
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What the hell is your problem? You are making yourself look like a complete tool, putting words in my mouth. Back off.
Andrew
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I don't read posts by cynical people.
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this surprises you? like i told you before, the entirely sports world would call you nuts for saying the team can win a title. Even when they were playing their best, it was all reliant on the offense. Championship teams start on the defensive end, and the suns can't play any defense.
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you've almost responded more to your own thread than everyone else combined. He didn't put words in your mouth. You said anything is possible, and from that he simply drew a conclusion. He doesn't look like a tool at all. You look like a moron. But then again, nothing new there.
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actually, a lot of people knew it was quite possible for the warriors to beat Dallas in case you didn't know. They were the one team that dominated dallas all year. I wasn't too surprised to see it happen.
But like someone already mentioned, they got it handed to them by a less soft team the next round.
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wrong, your point is that anything can happen and in the NBA anything CAN'T happen. Mediocre teams who are completely over the hill with bad coaches DON'T run through the playoffs and win titles. Football it can happen because it's one game... NCAA Basketball it can happen because it's one game... Baseball can happen because a hot pitcher can LITERALLY shut another team out... in the NBA it just doesn't happen... and flat out CAN'T. I mean, if this CAN happen, you know, a really poopy team winning the NBA Title, tell me, why hasn't it?
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When I watched that spurs vs lakers game it was like seeing 2 teams MUCH higher in caliber then our team is now. It really is hopeless, our team just doesn't have the level of quality that those teams have.
Andrew
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poopy by who's comparison? IF this team goes on a winning stretch and makes the playoffs easily and gets going, then I would like for you to call them poopy.
poopy at this point of the season is bad, but it isn't the end of the world or the team for that matter.
poopy at this point of the season is bad, but it isn't the end of the world or the team for that matter.
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I'm here too. This season is too long to worry about it.
I doubt that Boston had these same feelings when they lost 7 out of 10 earlier in the month.
Just a couple of weeks ago we had won something like 8 of the last 11.
Man you guys have short memories.
FArting
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I'm here too.
Milgod
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I'm always optimistic. I still think there are the tools there to do something come the playoffs. However, I am starting to think that making some big moves (even if it makes us worse in the short term) might be best. I don't want to move Amare though.
DeAnna
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I am optimistic since this team was built for the playoffs (with new emphasis on the half court offense.)
Problem is that if they continue to slide, they won't get into the playoffs at all! Even if they make the 8th seed, I'm optimistic.
Problem is that if they continue to slide, they won't get into the playoffs at all! Even if they make the 8th seed, I'm optimistic.
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teams that are "built" for the playoffs are teams that play good defense. we play horrible defense and don't have great defenders on the roster. thus, I',m not sure how we're built for the playoffs. offensively, maybe, but defensively, not at all.
Yuma
Suns are my Kryptonite!
The only thing I am pessimistic about is the new system we are playing. It seems like we aren't really performing the half court offense to our best potential. We aren't making anyone fear us there. All the talk about defensive emphasis, we aren't getting the fast break points because we aren't forcing other teams to turn the ball over. In fact, we are turning it over so much in stretches of games, we go whole MINUTES without scoring in every game now! I don't think the new coach is doing enough to get the team well prepared. No way should we keep turning the ball over so much at this point in the season. I believe we have the pieces, but they aren't being used well.
nowagimp
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If you have watched this team over the last few years, you'd realize that its much worse than even last year. Porters offense is MUCH worse than DA's and his defense is as bad or worse as well. But you know, good defensive teams are built not in practice, but with the proper personnel. The idea that this suns teams would get better defensively with just a coaching change assumed it was the coach that caused bad defense. Perhaps now more ASFN posters realize that it starts with good defenders. Rick Addelman coaches one of the best defenses in the NBA, in the rockets. Chuck Hayes, Kark Landry, Battier, alston and artest would be good defenders for any coach. Guys who can play at that level or above on one roster means good defense. For every player that is a poor defender, you must have maybe 2 good ones. The suns dont have a player on the entire roster that will get any defensive consideration for even the 3rd team all NBA. the lakers are not a greatr offensive team, but they do have some good defenders(kobe, ariza, odom, bynum). The suns are much worse defensively than the amare/KT suspension team. It all started when KT left, the demise of whatever defensive skills were there.
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Yuma
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You have some good points on the defensive side of the ball. However, for all the offensive firepower we have, we struggle mightily with turn overs and long scoreless streaks in every game! No way this should be happening. I don't think the coaching has this team playing anywhere near potential. I have to say a Jerry Sloan, or heck, any upper echelon coach, could have this team playing much better. We can't expect to overcome the turn overs and rebounding deficits, let alone the defensive lapses, and expect to win consistently. We win DESPITE the turn overs, poor rebounding, and defensive lapses! It's amazing when you look at the stats, and then see how much we have won!! You can't help but think if the ship was run a little tighter, we could be right up there with the big boys!
I would like to have some optimism,but nothing is improving. The team as a whole(defense, offense, turnovers, coaching, etc.) is getting worse.
