Is too early to start Clayton Tune?

[BirdGangThing]

Probably keep starting Dobbs based upon the draft pick given up for him.

That is no reason to start someone omg

 

[BirdGangThing]

I guess we'll see. Gannon liked Tune so much we traded for Dobbs, then started him.

And here we are

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think Gannon likes Tune

I also think Petzing wanted to start Dobbs over Tune and got his way

Based on?

 

[Chopper0080]

That is no reason to start someone omg

Unless Monti and Petzing don’t want to look like huge donkeys by benching a guy they gave up a 5th in games they would likely lose anyways.

 

[juza76]

Based on?

I guess In order to not rush things with Tune and jeopardizing his learning curve
He was a big investment for the franchise, they want to protect him

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I guess In order to not rush things with Tune and jeopardizing his learning curve
He was a big investment for the franchise, they want to protect him

I'm asking about his specific comment that makes it seem the HC and OC were in differing opinions and the OC got his way. What's that based on?

 

[bankybruce]

If Ertz make two catchable catches, we probably win. Dobbs did enough to put us in a position to win on the road against a top 10 defense with just a handful of practices. He'll get a few more starts.

 

[slanidrac16]

If Ertz make two catchable catches, we probably win. Dobbs did enough to put us in a position to win on the road against a top 10 defense with just a handful of practices. He'll get a few more starts.

Disagree. When you fumble twice it usually cost you the game.

 

[bankybruce]

Disagree. When you fumble twice it usually cost you the game.

So, we didn't have the ball twice down by 1 and 4 respectively in the 4th quarter? Ertz didn't drop a TD pass and a key 1st down? You disagree with all of that? And I'm not sure how many players survive the way the pocket collapsed on one of those fumbles.

He played good enough to give us a chance win.

 

[Card'em]

Like K9 said, I assume that based on practice evaluation the coaches believe that Dobbs gives the Cardinals the best chance to win, which isn't saying much. I would also assume that they don't want to put Tune in before he's ready, and possibly destroy his confidence and body. My guess is that Dobbs gets a few more games to show something and it also gives Tune a few more weeks to watch and learn. By week 4 or 5, I fully expect to see Tune.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Dobbs is awful noooo arm strength boring qb....

i say start tuna vs giants let him develop bef murray magic returns lol

 

[BirdGangThing]

Based on?

Based on what Gannon's said about Tune

Based on Petzing obviously being the one who wanted Dobbs

 

[BirdGangThing]

Unless Monti and Petzing don’t want to look like huge donkeys by benching a guy they gave up a 5th in games they would likely lose anyways.

So start Dobbs and lose... to save face?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Based on what Gannon's said about Tune

Based on Petzing obviously being the one who wanted Dobbs

I guess I missed those quotes of Gannon saying he preferred Tune or likes Tune over Dobbs. All I've heard is him say positive things about each QB, never tipping his hand of preference.

 

[THESMEL]

We competed with a chance to win in the 4th In the rain.
‘I don’t know how much protection Tune needs, but looks like the best chance to win. Presumably more upside.

 

[slanidrac16]

So, we didn't have the ball twice down by 1 and 4 respectively in the 4th quarter? Ertz didn't drop a TD pass and a key 1st down? You disagree with all of that? And I'm not sure how many players survive the way the pocket collapsed on one of those fumbles.

He played good enough to give us a chance win.

Just good enough to lose. The pass to Ertz should on the numbers. We’re talking about a 10 yard pass.
We scored ZERO.
touchdowns inspite of the defense giving him 3 additional possessions….and scored a td.
But hey, if you think that’s good enough , I won’t argue.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I guess I missed those quotes of Gannon saying he preferred Tune or likes Tune over Dobbs. All I've heard is him say positive things about each QB, never tipping his hand of preference.

I never said that - but hey - whatever makes your boat float or finds your lost remote

 

[Tacticool Nerd]

Unless Monti and Petzing don’t want to look like huge donkeys by benching a guy they gave up a 5th in games they would likely lose anyways.

Easy there... It's a 5th round pick. Not like it 2nd or 3rd.

 

[CardLogic]

Watch this if you think Tune is ready to start:

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So you watched it, now what do you say?

 

[Harry]

I mean, they didn't roll with Dobbs because Tune was better in practice...

Assumption

 

[Harry]

Watch this if you think Tune is ready to start:

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So you watched it, now what do you say?

Poor analysis, see previous thread based on this video

 

[BirdGangThing]

Watch this if you think Tune is ready to start:

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So you watched it, now what do you say?

There's another video that came out just today - 4 quarters long with no touch downs - 4.4 ypc (that's including yards after catch) or he holds on to the ball too long

now what do you say my man

 

[Harry]

No doubt Dobbs play was compromised by the O-Line play. That said if the Cards were afraid Tune would play like a rookie, that’s exactly how Dobbs played. I thought the fact that the Cards started the last drive with a 4 yard pass said all I needed to know about their assessment of Dobbs’ skills.

 

[BirdGangThing]

No doubt Dobbs play was compromised by the O-Line play. That said if the Cards were afraid Tune would play like a rookie, that’s exactly how Dobbs played. I thought the fact that the Cards started the last drive with a 4 yard pass said all I needed to know about their assessment of Dobbs’ skills.

Word big bird - we weren't in that game because of Dobbs - we were in that game despite Dobbs

 

[Hoodhero]

Apparently aftrr today thats 7 fumbles in Dobbs 1st 3 starts smh