Isn't right now the best time for a trade?

[jagu]

No he's getting rid of Hedo's horrible contract by trading for a worse one.

AI is averaging 13.9 ppg, 6.6 rpg, and 5.5 apg... not bad numbers, but hardly worth $12.3M, $13.5M, $14.7M, and $15.9M over the next 4 years.

Those numbers would probably get better in an offense suited for his passing ability and a distributor who can find Iggy any day of the week.

 

[Trifecta]

Shoot, do you think we could loan Hedo to them for a couple of months, let them see if he helps them out?

If it involves Hedo not being in a Suns uni, even temporarily, then I would say yes.

 

[elindholm]

Those numbers would probably get better in an offense suited for his passing ability and a distributor who can find Iggy any day of the week.

Isn't that exactly what people said about Turkoglu? I mean, seriously, almost verbatim?

 

[Griffin]

I don't think Turkoglu has any trade value at the moment, and with three more years under contract after this year he probably has negative trade value. So I don't see the Suns being able to move him for anyone, much less a big with an expiring contract.

However, the Suns could in theory trade Richardson for either Dalembert or Troy Murphy. I think both Sacramento and New Jersey would make this deal since neither player is being used much this season and Richardson's contract is expiring as well. Dalembert is now coming off the bench behind a rookie and Murphy is getting DNP's.

Imo, there is no way the Suns re-sign Richardson, so this is his last season with the Suns anyway. He has played well this season, but not consistently enough. And we have players on the bench who can take his spot so his loss can be overcome to some degree. Neither Dalembert nor Murphy would turn us into a championship contender, but I think it would make us more competitive this season.

 

[elindholm]

I don't think Turkoglu has any trade value at the moment, and with three more years under contract after this year he probably has negative trade value. So I don't see the Suns being able to move him for anyone

They could potentially trade him for another player with negative value, like Brand for instance.

However, the Suns could in theory trade Richardson for either Dalembert or Troy Murphy.

Richardson has far more value than either of those players. What would the point be?

I think both Sacramento and New Jersey would make this deal since neither player is being used much this season

I suppose that Sacramento might be more committed to Dalembert than they're letting on, but I can't think of any reason why the Nets wouldn't jump at a Richardson/Murphy swap. What's the downside for them?

He has played well this season, but not consistently enough.

I'm not sure how much more you can ask for. Even Bryant doesn't score 20 points on 50% shooting every game. Richardson has easily been the Suns' second best player this season, and his shooting percentages are stellar. He has exceeded any reasonable standard of "consistency" through these first 22 games.

 

[Chaplin]

I don't think Turkoglu has any trade value at the moment, and with three more years under contract after this year he probably has negative trade value. So I don't see the Suns being able to move him for anyone, much less a big with an expiring contract.

However, the Suns could in theory trade Richardson for either Dalembert or Troy Murphy. I think both Sacramento and New Jersey would make this deal since neither player is being used much this season and Richardson's contract is expiring as well. Dalembert is now coming off the bench behind a rookie and Murphy is getting DNP's.

Imo, there is no way the Suns re-sign Richardson, so this is his last season with the Suns anyway. He has played well this season, but not consistently enough. And we have players on the bench who can take his spot so his loss can be overcome to some degree. Neither Dalembert nor Murphy would turn us into a championship contender, but I think it would make us more competitive this season.

Richardson is playing like an all-star and you want to trade him for Dalembert or Troy Murphy?? Come on now. There could be a ton of better deals out there for him.

 

[AfroSuns]

Imo, there is no way the Suns re-sign Richardson, so this is his last season with the Suns anyway. He has played well this season, but not consistently enough. And we have players on the bench who can take his spot so his loss can be overcome to some degree. Neither Dalembert nor Murphy would turn us into a championship contender, but I think it would make us more competitive this season.

We have players who can replace JRich? I didnt realize we have another who is more consistent than JRich.

Even with his inconsistency, JRich is the 2nd best player on this team. If moved for a Dalembert, the Suns might as well just tank this season. Without a reliable threat on the perimeter, we may as well have no inside presence and vice versa; as we are finding out how the lack of a good low post player is allowing defenders stay with shooters more.

 

[Griffin]

Richardson is playing like an all-star and you want to trade him for Dalembert or Troy Murphy?? Come on now. There could be a ton of better deals out there for him.

I don't want to trade Richardson. He just happens to be the only player on our team other than Turk that could match those players' salaries. My point is, if the Suns have any hope of acquiring a big like Dalembert or even Murphy, with salaries like theirs, the Suns would almost have to give up Richardson. So discussing how we can move Turkoglu for one of them is pointless, imo.

The question is, would the Suns be better off this season with a big like Dalembert or with Richardson? And this question is only valid for this season, because I don't believe the Suns have any intention of keeping Richardson beyond this season.

Just out of curiosity, what better deals for Richardson would you suggest?

 

[Griffin]

I'm not sure how much more you can ask for. Even Bryant doesn't score 20 points on 50% shooting every game. Richardson has easily been the Suns' second best player this season, and his shooting percentages are stellar. He has exceeded any reasonable standard of "consistency" through these first 22 games.

I agree Richardson has been our second best player and thus far exceeded most expectations. I think he should make the all-start team. When I said he hasn't been consistent enough, I meant can he have seven straight games with 20+ points and the follow that with two where he scored combined 10 points. And because the Suns have come to rely so much on his scoring, not surprisingly we've lost both games. As you said, even Bryant doesn't score 20 every game, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a game where he scored fewer than 10, much less two in a row. In fact, he only scored fewer than 20 once this season. But I agree Richardson has done all we could possibly ask of him, and to compare him to Bryant is pointless.

I didn't make these trade suggestions because Richardson hasn't been good enough, but because there is no one else on our team in that salary range that is tradeable. If we can move him for someone that can help in the areas in which we need help the most, then it should be considered. Especially since we'll lose him either way when the season is over.

 

[Chaplin]

A rival message board had a post relayed from someone that heard something on the radio from Gambo & Ash that claims their "contacts" within the Suns organization says we are seriously looking at Jason Thompson and Brandon Bass. Not much more information other than that, so this can probably be filed under, "well, duh."

 

[BC867]

When half of a team's roster is made up of wing players, the necessity in a trade would be to balance the starting and bench lineups.

Even though Richardson has the best stats on the team, the roster is forcing a bunch of players to play out of position.

With JRich probably in his last season with us, I think it is paramount that we use his value to solve the overall problem.

And, as much as I would like to see a Sun in the All-Star game, I could forego it this season if it helps accomplish that.

 

[Folster]

A rival message board had a post relayed from someone that heard something on the radio from Gambo & Ash that claims their "contacts" within the Suns organization says we are seriously looking at Jason Thompson and Brandon Bass. Not much more information other than that, so this can probably be filed under, "well, duh."

I had today off from work and heard this particular G&A segment. Gambo basically said that the Suns are looking for a pf and according to his sources Jason Thompson was someone the Suns were interested in. Bass's name was mentioned more as a possibility as G&A were thinking of other pf's who may be available. Nothing groundbreaking as it's been reported that the Suns had interest in Thompson.

Thompson is starting to get minutes again, and he put up 22 pts and 14 rebs last night. I'd give them anyone outside of Nash, Dragic, and Lopez, I'd even include Lopez if they sent Dally in return.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think Turkoglu has any trade value at the moment, and with three more years under contract after this year he probably has negative trade value. So I don't see the Suns being able to move him for anyone, much less a big with an expiring contract.

Last year, Turk was arguably the most underperforming player in the NBA. If fact, he was despised on a level that far exceeds the occasional bashing he receives here. IIRC, the Raptors were able to find a taker for the remaining 4 years of his career and all they had to take back in return was a very popular player that, mostly because of injury, was unable to perform to the levels of his much more manageable contract. Surely we could duplicate such a deal?

Steve

 

[Superbone]

I'd give up my firstborn to see that happen (shame I don't have any kids), but Dalambert's contract expires at the end of the season so I don't see them trading him for the 4 years left on Hedo's cancerous contract.

It's OK. You are allowed to include your future first born. Just sign here...

 

[Trifecta]

Last year, Turk was arguably the most underperforming player in the NBA. If fact, he was despised on a level that far exceeds the occasional bashing he receives here. IIRC, the Raptors were able to find a taker for the remaining 4 years of his career and all they had to take back in return was a very popular player that, mostly because of injury, was unable to perform to the levels of his much more manageable contract. Surely we could duplicate such a deal?

Is Isiah back in the NBA? Otherwise probably not (unless Sarver and Babby go to another NBA team). Hedo underperforning for 2 consecutive seasons on 2 different "run & gun" teams that were supposedly suited to his play style would have his value at an all time low by now.

 

[Trifecta]

It's OK. You are allowed to include your future first born. Just sign here...

Dangit where did I put my pen??

 

[Mainstreet]

There are rumors on HoopsHype that Carl Laundry might be available in a trade. Just another name to throw into the hat.

 

[jagu]

There are rumors on HoopsHype that Carl Laundry might be available in a trade. Just another name to throw into the hat.

Too small to be a PF.

 

[Mainstreet]

Too small to be a PF.

I like more size too but 6'9" and 248 pounds is not to be brushed aside. Career stats of 11.9 ppg and 4.70 rebounds is not bad. He played very well in Houston who may want him back. Also he is still young at 27. The Suns could do worse if the price is right. However, I'm open to any legitimate PF candidates.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Last year, Turk was arguably the most underperforming player in the NBA. If fact, he was despised on a level that far exceeds the occasional bashing he receives here. IIRC, the Raptors were able to find a taker for the remaining 4 years of his career and all they had to take back in return was a very popular player that, mostly because of injury, was unable to perform to the levels of his much more manageable contract. Surely we could duplicate such a deal?

how? did Sarver buy another team and make himself GM?

 

[mojorizen7]

Too small to be a PF.

Not on this team. Besides,Landry plays bigger than anyone else on this roster,and he wont dissappear on the defensive end. He's not a front court "monster" anything, but he will play hard,score some,rebound some and scrap. and he's only 27.
Landry is consistently listed at 6'9" 250lbs

Amare was 6'10" 240

Frye is at 6'11" 245
Hedo is at 6'10" 220
Lopez is at 7' 255
Warrick is at 6'9" 220
These are the guys the Suns are plugging in & out of the 3,4 and 5 positions....Landry could help this team IMO,but the usual FO/fan assessment always revolves back to "he doesn't fit the system" so no thanks.
Too bad....Ya'll know how i feel about this ***** box system.....

 

[Trifecta]

Too small to be a PF.

He'd get minutes at C on the Suns.

Book it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

how? did Sarver buy another team and make himself GM?

I do hope that someone out there realized I was being facetious. Our best hope now is that the love child of Sarver and Isiah Thomas buys his own team, and soon.

Steve

 

[cly2tw]

The best way is probably wholesale revamping with Magics:

Nash/Hill/Hedo/Frye for Nelson/Carter/Gortat.

Carter and Nelson expire soon for Suns to rebuild.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The best way is probably wholesale revamping with Magics:

Nash/Hill/Hedo/Frye for Nelson/Carter/Gortat.

Carter and Nelson expire soon for Suns to rebuild.

Well, that would help the Magic but I don't see that it would do us much good. And there's no way we'd send Hill back there unless he specifically asked us to do so. I'd consider that deal for Nash, Hedo and Clark if they included a couple of first round picks.

Steve