It's official. Cards and K K are one Kliff Kingsbury Cards

[Hoodhero]

You’re about to get a column written about you. #Wilkswaswronged #Kardsareracist

I am black man, born & raised from Africa so that would be great to be honest lol

 

[sunsfan88]

Don’t see how he was the least bit qualified. Has never even been on a NFL staff.

Neither had Chip Kelly.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Don't like it one bit.

Wreaks of desperation and lack of ability to identify a good NFL coach.

Are the players going to buy into this, after they went through a rookie NFL coach with Wilks ?

Good thing the roster has pass blocking offensive linemen, and a bunch of good wide receivers.

Oh, and a great defense against the run so that our defense is not out on the field for 3/4 of the game.

Oh, yeah, this is going to be great. Do we get a propaganda web series on Facebook like last year ?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Neither had Chip Kelly.

How did that work out? LOL

 

[RugbyMuffin]

What 5 star recruits are jumping up to go Lubbock Texas? Damn Dungy with his NFL experience didnt quite light up the college game with a far better program in ASU. I actually give the man props for staying @ TTU for that long without moving on to better team.

So you are saying he didn't have any talent to win.

......Cardinals offensive talent is tops.....TOPS in the league. Ugh.

 

[Big D]

Being Keim wanted McVay before everyone wanted the next McVay leads me to believe that Keim has done his research on both awhile back when he was expecting BA to retire in 2016. KK may have been on his radar then.

Then why in the world hire a guy like Wilks in 2018?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I understand the arguments against KK, but what are the arguments for the other candidates?

NFL experience.

Know how to build a NFL roster from the scrap heap we currently have.

Can establish a culture.

Can get players to buy into the system.

You know, they know how to coach in the NFL and how to be successful.

I know it would not be interesting to hire a guy like Jim Caldwell, but when you get your doors blown off every game during the season that seem to be a little more important than hype, and a desperate reach following a trend based off of a single national game played this season.

 

[Mainstreet]

So has Kingsbury made any hires yet or maybe it will be announced on Wednesday.

 

[overseascardfan]

Here's the deal. You can have Vince Lombardi as your coach but if you don't give him guys to fit his system he fails as any great coach would. This team's success as of Game 1 of the 2019 season is on Keim. If Keim does not successfully upgrade the OL, WR corp and defensive personnel to fit this coaching regime's systems then he failed this team. Now if Keim has a flawless offseason (draft & FA) and KK doesn't do crap with everything he is given then you can call him a bust. KK's success is going to rely heavily on Keim. What KK needs to do now is hire a one hell of a staff to get these players believing this new regime can get them back on the right path.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

There is no perfect choice obviously... But, Taylor? Why?? Based on what?? And whatever that is, is it really anything more compelling than what Klingsbury brings to the party??

Yes, there is no perfect choice.

Based on being in the NFL, and in the culture of dealing with professionals.

Compelling doesn't win games. It may sell tickets, but tickets that will be sold off 4 games into the season if the team doesn't produce.

If you want to run an "air-raid" type offense, then get someone who has experience doing it in the pros. That is the one thing Klingsbury doesn't bring to the party that Taylor would.

I think both guys are a reach at a trend, and would go in another direction, but if your are going to go after a trend, then try to get SOME experience.

Because .....well, those rookie coaches work so well, just like the one last year.

But, at least Klingsbury is from a small school, so Keim can go home and feel smart for a few days. Ugh.

 

[TJ]

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[cardncubfan]

Then why in the world hire a guy like Wilks in 2018?

That was Mike B's hire not Keims.

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[BullheadCardFan]

Don't like it one bit.

Wreaks of desperation and lack of ability to identify a good NFL coach.

Are the players going to buy into this, after they went through a rookie NFL coach with Wilks ?

Good thing the roster has pass blocking offensive linemen, and a bunch of good wide receivers.

Oh, and a great defense against the run so that our defense is not out on the field for 3/4 of the game.

Oh, yeah, this is going to be great. Do we get a propaganda web series on Facebook like last year ?

All good points.

I am concerned about this hire. Not sure he can put together a solid staff and be able to be in charge of this team.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I agree that this is risky, but we are not left wondering wtf the offense will look like like we were with Wilks and having no QB when we hired him. Feels good man.

Yeah, we only have to worry about that we loaded up on run blocking offensive linemen, we have MAYBE 2 WR's on the roster, and a running back that we are paying big money to, who know we have to hope can run this system.

 

[DVontel]

NFL experience.

Know how to build a NFL roster from the scrap heap we currently have.

Can establish a culture.

Can get players to buy into the system.

You know, they know how to coach in the NFL and how to be successful.

I know it would not be interesting to hire a guy like Jim Caldwell, but when you get your doors blown off every game during the season that seem to be a little more important than hype, and a desperate reach following a trend based off of a single national game played this season.

None of this has described any of the candidates.

 

[Russ Smith]

I am talking about college football in it's current state. It's all about the money right now & dont see TTU dropping so called 100 grand loans to students parents lol

I don't know if he's good or not but I would point out Chris Beard has Texas Tech's basketball team at 13-1 with that one loss a very competitive loss to Duke where they led much of the game..

I agree it's harder to recruit there, but it is possible take lower rated recruits. He was actually sub 500 in the 2 years Mahomes was the starting QB.

That said, those 2 years they averaged 45 and 43 PPG so the part he'll be in control of with us, he was pretty good at in college.

 

[Russ Smith]

If he is a Mike Leach disciple they why didn't we go after Mike Leach?

He has a much better record as a coach.

I'm very cautious about this hire. Don't know whether to be excited or disappointed. No NFL experience and a losing record in college. We had better have plans to bring in a strong DC an OC to help keep the team together.

Because Leach has a very toxic personality, or at least reputation of having one.

I don't know if this is a good move or not but I can see thinking I'd like to hire Mike Leach, I think Mike Leach is nuts, maybe we can hire a protege of his that's not nuts?

 

[JeffGollin]

What I'm thinking about our bringing in KK is that the threat of going deep is almost as important as actually going deep - because it frightens the defense and keeps it honest. Plus - one more dude in coverage = one less dude attacking Rosen. We lacked that aspect the past 1 - 2 years and it cost us.

In pro football, nothing is definite, but the Kingsbury option apears to be our best path to possible success.

 

[oaken1]

Why kingsbury? Other than being an offfensive wizz.....

Simple. He's young. Cant build an identity or a dynasty if you change coaches every couple years.

If you want what brady and bb have you gotta have both a player and a coach.

Big gamble. But it should be exciting to watch even if it fails.

If it works it could be exciting to watch for the next twenty years

 

[Big D]

That was Mike B's hire not Keims.

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Following your line of reasoning doesn’t that paint the picture of the team President/Owner and GM not exactly being on the same page? In other words, as I stated earlier, there wouldn’t seem to be any actual clear vision.

 

[Southpaw]

Huh? USC got him as OC. Landing a coordinator position at USC is not some highly coveted job. It's not like we were trying to pull him from a top 5 perrenial.

Maybe his motivation to take the "job" at USC kick started the NFL folks to sweeten the bait. Original interest was as an NFL OC. It was going to take an NFL HC offer to get him to the big stage. If it was a premeditated move ..... it worked.

 

[JeffGollin]

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Hey guys, never posted in y'all's sub before but I figured I'd pass along some intel that I believe to be very, very reliable. As you can see from my flair I'm an Eagles fan so I don't have any bias here (although it'd be nice for Larry to stop dad-dicking us every time we play), I'm just reporting what I've heard for the sake of sharing information with fans who care. As you might be able to tell from my "y'all"s, I'm from Texas, and I have some family and friends working at one of the biggest sports agencies in the country and every time they've been able to tell me info, it's been right. Usually I know which Texas/OU/A&M/Baylor/TCU/etc. players are going pro a few weeks before other people.

So that said, I'll cut to the chase: multiple people have told me that Kilff Kingsbury has been offered the Cardinals HC gig. His interview went well, and it sounds like ownership is hell-bent on finding some offensive juice to command the team. The plan, apparently, is to give Kingsbury the ultimate reigns to the team but to basically open the checkbook completely on the DC hire.

I don't want to burn any of my friends or family who told me about this stuff, so you can take this info for whatever you like. I totally understand if it's too out there for most of y'all to believe, but if/when Kingsbury gets hired hopefully you'll have gotten some heads up. Good luck next year!

Dude sounds legit; his reported info squares with what subsequently went down. I you buy it, be on the lookout for a pricey, high profile DC (Note - I have no clue who that might be).

 

[Southpaw]

My question is, why are people fans of KK? What has he done to earn your praise? Mahomes?

Telling that he couldn’t win with Mahomes in my book.

I have watched 75 % of the KK coached Texas Tech games for the last 4 years. He electrified that fanbase. Even in the losses, with a bunch of 2* recruits they put on one helluva show. That stadium was a packed house every game. The only people in Lubbock who did not like the success rate were the "whale boosters", the same guys who ran Mike Leach out of town.

 

[TheCardFan]

Dude sounds legit; his reported info squares with what subsequently went down. I you buy it, be on the lookout for a pricey, high profile DC (Note - I have no clue who that might be).

Going down this road...they have to have a big plan for experienced NFL staff and DC. Looking forward to seeing the plan.

 

[Southpaw]

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