Dr. Jones
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That stix poster in Charlotte had SERIOUS Amare vibes. Inject that in to all of my veins please!
Doesn’t that lend more credence to the idea that james Jones and Monty simply didn’t like what they saw from the kid?
So, then its not about what they CAN afford but if they WANT to pay THIS kid that much. They are willing to spend the money.No one is suggesting the Suns go on a spending spree but if the Suns can't afford to extend the 10th pick something is wrong.
I'm tired of the Kurt Thomas type moves. The Suns wouldn't even pay Ayton the max.
Even Robert Sarver said he is willing to pay the luxury tax.
By Dave King Bright Side of the Sun:
“That’s gonna come with the territory here,” Sarver said of paying the luxury tax soon. “I don’t know if that’s next season (2021-22) or the one after that (2022-23), but we know it’s coming. We see ourselves as a taxpayer, and that’s just part of what it’s gonna take to bring home a championship.”
This is an important admission by the owner who actively avoided luxury tax payments during the Nash years. Sure he paid luxury tax in three of those six years, but the ‘overage’ was small each time and the Suns made head-scratching moves to specifically reduce their tax payments. One of those moves was to trade center Kurt Thomas AND a pair of first round picks to rid the team of his 2007-08 salary that could have cost the team almost $20 million after tax calculations.
Suns owner on bringing Paul and Payne back, paying luxury tax, biggest team needs
Phoenix Suns managing partner Robert Sarver talked about the Suns off-season needs and wantswww.brightsideofthesun.com
Now imagine if DA actually played with 10% of that aggression every time he drives to the hoop, instead of those sissy layups and floaters he normally goes withThat stix poster in Charlotte had SERIOUS Amare vibes. Inject that in to all of my veins please!
So, then its not about what they CAN afford but if they WANT to pay THIS kid that much. They are willing to spend the money.
Where he was picked is meaningless.
Which is why I said earlier this year that Jared Allen, or Miles Turner could do 80-90% of the job ayton does at a lot lower contract cost.
Our system - and Chris Paul - is very big man friendly
Quite a leap comparing DA and Smith. Especially since we do still control DA.Not in my opinion. I mean... do you think JJ and Monty don’t like what they see from Ayton, either? We’ve seen Sarver pinch pennies before when contending.
And even if they didn’t like what they saw of the kid, it doesn’t take away from the fact that it was a mistake not to tender the qualifying offer at this point so it’s pretty immaterial. They blew their chance of retaining a young, athletic 4/5 at a small cost/making him any kind of tradable asset. The why or how doesn’t make a difference to the end result.
With you on that. Suns made the wrong call in drafting him and the right call not extending. Live with it and make him serviceable enough for the playoffs IF needed. I doubt he would get minutes anyway considering how Monty for some reason really shortened his lineup in the playoffs.
Meh, on the whole they have made some ******, but the roster is a really good one top to bottom. Even the best FO's aren't perfect.Not to mention passing on Haliburton to get this guy who they are now forced to let walk for nothing. The fact james jones/Sarver have full time jobs to deal with this stuff and end up making these decisions is so frustrating…
Meh, on the whole they have made some ******, but the roster is a really good one top to bottom. Even the best FO's aren't perfect.
Lol, apparently b0ners is verboten?
I think the FO made some financial/contract mistakes this off-season, but overall, they’ve done a pretty great job building this roster.Exactly, they have one of the best, if not the best, rosters in the NBA and people complain about who they didn't draft or sign or trade for. Well, point one one NBA executive who's never made a mistake.
I have never said any of those guys are as good as Ayton - they aren't.You were wrong then and you are wrong now. Center is a lot more than a few flash plays.
Ayton is better offensively and light years better defensively.
We’ve seen McGee(who was also part of your argument) start and play extended minutes and it’s not pretty
I have never said any of those guys are as good as Ayton - they aren't.
What I was saying is from Sarver's perspective I understand why paying Ayton 15 million a year extra may not seem like a great idea, especially when it is in tax territory.
As a fan, I want Ayton resigned.
Is it just me or does Shamet seem to rush his shot every game this season... it's literally a catch and shoot within 5 milliseconds of him getting the ball. I wonder if the coaches are preaching this. Compare this to someone like Cam who has the ability to catch, set his feet, and get into a good rhythm prior to a shot.I know a lot of people were mad at the Shammet contract, but similar shooters were paid that much or even more. We paid market value, or maybe a bit shy. I got no problem with that. I just want him to shoot better is all.
Is it just me or does Shamet seem to rush his shot every game this season... it's literally a catch and shoot within 5 milliseconds of him getting the ball. I wonder if the coaches are preaching this. Compare this to someone like Cam who has the ability to catch, set his feet, and get into a good rhythm prior to a shot.
Maybe it's just his first year jitters with the Suns (granted he is a 4yr vet)... not sure if he is pressing to justify his limited minutes but he needs to settle down with our highly touted second string
Shamet's main issue is that he doesn't catch and shoot as much as he should. I'm all for putting it on the floor if you don't have a shot, but he's pretty bad at stepping into the shot. If he plants, he's money.Is it just me or does Shamet seem to rush his shot every game this season... it's literally a catch and shoot within 5 milliseconds of him getting the ball. I wonder if the coaches are preaching this. Compare this to someone like Cam who has the ability to catch, set his feet, and get into a good rhythm prior to a shot.
Maybe it's just his first year jitters with the Suns (granted he is a 4yr vet)... not sure if he is pressing to justify his limited minutes but he needs to settle down with our highly touted second string
Well, yes. Of course, this is true. But the fact that he was the 10th pick should not fit into the evalua. . . . you know what I was saying.It's not meaningless where Smith was picked. Earlier first round picks get paid more than later first round picks.
Obviously the Suns did not want to invest more guaranteed money in him by not picking up his option.