Jeff Teflon Blake

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by nidan
Huh ?

Russ, start typing slower so nidan can keep up.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by AZCB34
Thank God the TE is being used. He better not be forgotten.

Depending on how they cover him, they could still slide a guy up but that would be taking extra risk. A risk worth taking early to see if they can shut everything down for the Cards.

Freddie had a good game. I was glad to see some fire outta him.

I don't think any of this is going to matter if we don't show something in the running game.

 

[Sandan]

I just don't understand the comment

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by nidan

what is your problem Nidan?

 

[Sandan]

I have no idea what Russ meant by that.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by cheesebeef
what is your problem Nidan?

I guess he thinks I am stupid.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by nidan
Huh ?

Sorry just seemed like Wilson didn't have any idea who Charles Rogers was so I was hoping we'd tell him about Robinson before the Seattle game.

I realize good WR's get open with that much time but Rogers got open too quickly on those TD's and remember he dropped one against Adrian where he was WIDE open too.

I want to see Wilson in position a bit more often I guess is what I'm saying.

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by AZCB34
I guess he thinks I am stupid.

Time out guys, I'm starting to get really confused. I posted a simple question, now AZCB34 thinks somebody thinks he is stupid.

Are you talking about me or Cheesie, I'm so confused.

Russ answer me quickly and shut this down before my brain explodes

 

[Sandan]

OK, I understand

 

[Redheart]

Originally posted by nidan
OK, I understand

"What does a yellow light mean?"

"Slow down".

"O.K., WWWHHHHAAAAAT DOOOEEESSS AAAA YEEELLLOOOOW LIGGGHHTTTT MEEEAAAANNNNN?"

 

[Lars the Red]

Give it up, Lex. You and a few other fans of a former player seem to be looking for every negative possible to make your boy look better.

Blake played a less than adequate game. He had good and bad moments.

Good moments:

-He faced 8 and 9 man fronts early on and made them pay. Those fronts can be attributed to the Lions respect for the running game and their lack of respect for a very inexperienced receiver corps.

-His success opened some nice running by both Smith and Shipp.

-He used Jones very nicely.

-He got the ball the the hot receiver who in this case was Quan.

-He made some really nice throws while rolling out of a soft pocket.

Bad moments:

-He was off target more than normal and several times it could have cost us.

-He has to hang on to the ball better. Dropping the ball without contact is unacceptable.

-He can't get locked onto one guy. Quan was hot, but that should only make the world better for the rest of the guys.

Finally, if his bell is rung, get to the sidelines. I fully believe that his concussion last week came back to haunt him as he started to accumulate hits.

He is not immune to criticism. He needs to improve in several areas. Lex see's everything that happened bad as his fault. I don't. I see plenty of blame to go around. The good things that Blake did yesterday outweigh those things he did poorly, but we aren't trying to just get over the line. He needs to play very solid and not make mistakes for this team to have a chance at winning. Jeff can't just be average.

 

[Lex]

aj- the thread is "Jeff Teflon Blake." It's about how everyone is raving about Blake's performance in a loss yesterday. I was pointing out how I felt that even though he had good looking stats, he was probably most responsible for the loss...even though his stats looked good in the paper. Nothing is his fault.

Call me stupid if you like, I realize that since I thought we should have had someone BEAT OUT Jake for the job here, that I've forever been labled a "Jake lover," and any reference to any QB from that point on, would just be tossed aside. I don't bring the issue up, everyone else does.

Who cares.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Lex
I've forever been labled a "Jake lover,"

If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck.......

 

[AzKarl]

Originally posted by Lex
No blame seems to be sticking to our new quarterback. Great stats, but we lost big, so now our whole coaching staff is to blame for this loss.

I see things a bit differently.

Blakes interception for a touchdown, along with his two fumbles while not being touched, one resulting in another touchdown, cost us 14 points. Game would have been 28-24.

Coach Mac said this morning that penalties and turnovers cost us the game. Let's look at those penalties. AC had all those false starts, LJ Shelton said this morning that he never heard Jeff Blake at the line all game. Seems Blake's voice doesn't project very well.

Emmitt Smith called two timeouts during the game, to avoid even MORE delay penalties than we HAD. I've never seen this happen before. Jeff Blake's JOB is to handle the team on the field. Get em in and out of the huddle, AND SNAP THE DAMN BALL BEFORE THE CLOCK HITS ZERO. I don't care if the play was called in slow from the box, you must snap the ball before the clock runs out. It's very simple.

The Lions gave Jeff Blake NO respect. They had 8 guys in the box all day. THAT'S why Quan and Blake had good stats.

If YOU are one of those people that only care about stats...then YOU won't care if we go 3-13, as long as our QB has good stats.

I want wins.

According to Ron Wolfley the receiver Brian Gilmore ran the wrong route and Blake was throwing to a spot. I was more concerned with the snap before the play clock expired more than anything. A veteran QB must now how much time is left on the playclock. No excuses there.

 

[Lars the Red]

Originally posted by Lex
I was pointing out how I felt that even though he had good looking stats, he was probably most responsible for the loss...even though his stats looked good in the paper.

Are you the same Lex that deflected every bit of criticism ever cast toward Jake? Wasn't it always someone else's fault with Jake? 'Sure Jake fumbled, but Grutts was sweating on the ball too much'. 'Yeah, Jake threw it right to the defender, but the receiver should have comeback and broken it up'. 'If they would just run the West Coast offense, Jake would be great'. 'Why are they running that stupid West Coast offense, Jake needs to stretch the field'. 'Jake needs to be out of the pocket, then he'll be awsome'. 'If only Jake had a great line, great receivers, a big TE, and a running game, that's all he needs'.

Call me stupid if you like,

Stupid

I realize that since I thought we should have had someone BEAT OUT Jake for the job here, that I've forever been labled a "Jake lover," and any reference to any QB from that point on, would just be tossed aside. I don't bring the issue up, everyone else does.

I never called you a 'Jake Lover', I believe the term I used was Jake's jock sniffer. You didn't bring what up? You bashed a guy that played a better game at QB than we have seen in many years, (And it still needs much improvement), and go on spouting off how your guy at least got a W. Wow, love is blind.

 

[Lars the Red]

In case some of you missed it, Sullivan took the bullet for getting the plays in too slowly. Blake needs to be more aware, but he has to have time to make the line calls and adjustments. Sullivan will get better and so will Blake.

 

[Lex]

Lars-

This is a Jeff Blake thread.

1) Do you understand?

2) Can you read?

If you answered "yes" to #'s 1 and 2, you have a comprehension problem, in addition to the other problems you have.

 

[Lars the Red]

Originally posted by Lex
Lars-

This is a Jeff Blake thread.

1) Do you understand?

2) Can you read?

If you answered "yes" to #'s 1 and 2, you have a comprehension problem, in addition to the other problems you have.

This is your 'rip on the new QB thread'. It has nothing to do with Jeff Blake. It has everything to do with your inability to deal with the loss of your hero. Don't try to be witty, you don't have the necessary tools.

 

[Russ Smith]

Re: Re: Jeff Teflon Blake

Originally posted by AzKarl
According to Ron Wolfley the receiver Brian Gilmore ran the wrong route and Blake was throwing to a spot. I was more concerned with the snap before the play clock expired more than anything. A veteran QB must now how much time is left on the playclock. No excuses there.

Damn it Wolfley you Blake lover quit making excuses!

It looked like that based on where he threw it, but, I will say at that point in the game you have to be careful with throws like that. But on tv timing is impossible to see it's likely Jeff threw the ball before it was possible to know Gilmore was running the wrong route.

I just hate plays that screw you like that, I'm not that big on that route to begin with but at that point in the game they weren't 8 in the box anymore.

I'd have ran a reverse to Quan and then thrown it to Gilmore for the TD.

 

[BW52]

I think you are being unreasonable Lars.Lex posted his opinion and several agreed with him.Blake made many GOOD plays yesterday.He ALSO made SEVERAL BAD plays that eventually costany chance of a comeback.Many are suprised Blake made the mistakes he made and expressed anger.Quit being a jerk just because you don`t like what you read.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Re: Re: Re: Jeff Teflon Blake

Originally posted by Russ Smith
I'd have ran a reverse to Quan and then thrown it to Gilmore for the TD.

You know something like that is being saved for the right moment. Especially with Boldins QB experience.

 

[Lex]

Damn Lars- you mean, I used the wrong title in my thread? Or was it you read something into the post that wasn't there?

That's what I meant by "the other problems you have."

 

[HIX]

I'll make someone a star Jeff Blake

I beg to differ, Q made BLAKE look good. You take away Q uncanny ability to break tackles and juke defenders AFTER the catch and this conversation would be going a whole different way...

But this was the first game. Let's see what happens next week

 

[Lars the Red]

Originally posted by BW52
I think you are being unreasonable Lars.Lex posted his opinion and several agreed with him.Blake made many GOOD plays yesterday.He ALSO made SEVERAL BAD plays that eventually costany chance of a comeback.Many are suprised Blake made the mistakes he made and expressed anger.Quit being a jerk just because you don`t like what you read.

I've only read the same crap from the same few that would fight to their dying breath defending our old QB for the last several years. A new guy replaces him and has a game that did not live up to expectations in several areas. Curiously, Lex can find little to be pleased with and points all the blame at Blake, even the Lions defensive alignment. We could easily have been cruising to a victory if we don't give up a punt return and have a muffed punt.

There's blame a plenty to go around, but Lex and the brethren seem only able to find fault in their new favorite target.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by HIX
I'll make someone a star Jeff Blake

I beg to differ, Q made BLAKE look good. You take away Q uncanny ability to break tackles and juke defenders AFTER the catch and this conversation would be going a whole different way...

But this was the first game. Let's see what happens next week

But how many of those plays was Q the primary guy? Either Blake is incredibly good at looking of WR's, or he was routinely checking down and throwing to Q. That never happened before because our QB was either forcing to the #1 guy, or looking to move out of the pocket.

Am I the only one who realizes the reason the completion % was so low for Jake in the first 6 games last year was because Boston was playing? DB was limping, not getting open, but Jake kept locking on him. We can argue over whether anybody else was worth looking at, but if you continue to throw to one guy, who's not getting open consistently, you won't complete many passes.

Blake on the other hand found a guy getting open and went with him, even if he wasn't the primary guy.