Jeff Teflon Blake

[Lex]

Once again, this is not a Plummer thread. Never was, still isn't.

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all game?

It's about OUR QB, Jeff Teflon Blake. Nothing is his fault. He's the top statisticly rated QB in the league. Wonderful. Great. Ok, I'm on board, I'll be just like the rest of you, as long as Blake has good stats, it doesn't really matter what our record stat says.

Yeeee Haaaa!

 

[Sandan]

Would you rather he had bad stats ?

As it is his statistical performance suggest that if we eliminate a few of the mistakes we win some games (possibly a lot of games)

Bad stats mean that we probably won't win those games.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Lex

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all game?

It's about OUR QB, Jeff Teflon Blake.

You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that combined for their careers, our starting WRs had 200 some odd yard between them? Come on Lex - they sdtacked the box because our receivers going into the game hadn't proven they belonged in the NFL - still don't know about most of them except Quan.

 

[BACH]

This is stupid!!! Why is everyone jumping to conclusions? It was the first game of the season!

Blake played a good game, but made some mistakes. Making mistakes is part of being a quarterback. There's never been a perfect quarterback in the league. The team got behind because of a couple of special team mistakes. Blake had to force the issue and that resulted in a couple of mistakes. That's doesn't mean Blake is a bad quarterback - it just makes him an NFL quarterback. He made some mistakes under pressure - IT HAPPENS TO EVERY QUARTERBACK IN THE LEAGUE!!!!

If this continues, of course, there are reasons to worry. Let's just wait and see.

 

[Lex]

Nidan- stats are for losers. You know, when you're a loser, but you cling to thoughts like, hey, at least we had good stats.

Give me a break.

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all day? Anyone?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Lex
Nidan- stats are for losers. You know, when you're a loser, but you cling to thoughts like, hey, at least we had good stats.

Give me a break.

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all day? Anyone?

I just did - respond.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Lex
That hit on Blake should have been called, no question. Lack of respect, any top QB in this league would have gotten that call.

All the trouble with the delay of game penalties, and wasted time outs, made me very unhappy with Blake, that's on him. AC and LJ couldn't hear Blake, Pete Kendall said on KDUS this morning, HE couldn't hear Blake. So they go on a silent count, ok fine, but that's a huge disadvantage to our O-linemen.

Can we give Jeff a bullhorn? Or increase his voice strength with professional voice lessons? Nope, we're just screwed every time the crowd is loud. Thank god we've got 8 games in nice quiet SDS.

Yeah the last QB handled things so well in that game in Minnesota in the playoffs when we had the same problem right?

Look, fact is crowd noise is a problem the NFL has been trying to solve for years. They want fans, but they don't want indoor stadiums being a huge advantage like that.

Given the team couldn't hear Blake, and the Lions offense knew our defense, is it not amazing we were ahead as long as we were?

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Lex
Once again, this is not a Plummer thread. Never was, still isn't.

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all game?

It's about OUR QB, Jeff Teflon Blake. Nothing is his fault. He's the top statisticly rated QB in the league. Wonderful. Great. Ok, I'm on board, I'll be just like the rest of you, as long as Blake has good stats, it doesn't really matter what our record stat says.

Yeeee Haaaa!

The same reason we did for years, teams didn't fear our passing game. Then it was the QB, now it's they didn't know our WR's.

That is the first time I ever saw us actually burn a team for doing it though.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Originally posted by Lex
Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all day? Anyone?

Everyone knew the strength of our team was the running game. We had nothing but no name receivers with little or no experience. The obvious thing to do is stack the line and make the Cardinals beat you with their passing game.

It's been talked about all preseason. I'm surprise that you are even asking this question.

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by Lex
Nidan- stats are for losers. You know, when you're a loser, but you cling to thoughts like, hey, at least we had good stats.

You are utterly missing my point, possibly deliberatly so. I never said "hey, at least we had good stats", you did not me.

What I was talking about was the future.

I think it is reasonable to say that if Blake/Q keep leading the NFL then is is likely to improve our chances of winning more than if they suck.

What is so hard to swallow about this comment, it says nothing about consoling myself with good stats. It just suggests that if we keep that up and correct some the mistakes we could win a lot of games.

Of course we have to correct the self inflicted wounds first.

 

[Lex]

Beef- it had EVERYTHING to do with our untested wideouts, and our quarterback. They didn't respect our passing game. They left it unprotected, so don't come here trying to tell me that Blake is a great quarterback, based on STATISTICS, in a game the defense wasn't concerned about stopping our passing game.

We're going to have to continue to throw the ball all day, till teams respect our passing game, but if we can't win that way? Why would any team change the way they defend us?

Our defense will never hold up in that scenario.

 

[Sandan]

Do you honestly think that anybody is going to overlook Blake to Q after last week ?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Lex
Beef- it had EVERYTHING to do with our untested wideouts, and our quarterback. They didn't respect our passing game. They left it unprotected, so don't come here trying to tell me that Blake is a great quarterback, based on STATISTICS, in a game the defense wasn't concerned about stopping our passing game.

It had everything to do with our WRs - not our QB Lex - Personally - I don't think Blake was great - he was great through three quarters, but it's a four quarter game and his mistakes came there and that is the one time this team absolutely can not afford to have them - but at the same time we wouldn't have been near where we awere without him - so his poor fourth quarter play and his sparkling first three quarters are a bit of a wash - but at least it's better than watching someone stink all game long.

 

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by Lex
Once again, this is not a Plummer thread. Never was, still isn't.

Can anyone explain why we faced 8-9 men in the box all game?

It's about OUR QB, Jeff Teflon Blake. Nothing is his fault. He's the top statisticly rated QB in the league. Wonderful. Great. Ok, I'm on board, I'll be just like the rest of you, as long as Blake has good stats, it doesn't really matter what our record stat says.

Yeeee Haaaa!

Oh... blake can rush the passer AND cover WRs? HE IS THE MAN!!!

 

[john h]

QB

Originally posted by Lex
No blame seems to be sticking to our new quarterback. Great stats, but we lost big, so now our whole coaching staff is to blame for this loss.

I see things a bit differently.

Blakes interception for a touchdown, along with his two fumbles while not being touched, one resulting in another touchdown, cost us 14 points. Game would have been 28-24.

Coach Mac said this morning that penalties and turnovers cost us the game. Let's look at those penalties. AC had all those false starts, LJ Shelton said this morning that he never heard Jeff Blake at the line all game. Seems Blake's voice doesn't project very well.

Emmitt Smith called two timeouts during the game, to avoid even MORE delay penalties than we HAD. I've never seen this happen before. Jeff Blake's JOB is to handle the team on the field. Get em in and out of the huddle, AND SNAP THE DAMN BALL BEFORE THE CLOCK HITS ZERO. I don't care if the play was called in slow from the box, you must snap the ball before the clock runs out. It's very simple.

The Lions gave Jeff Blake NO respect. They had 8 guys in the box all day. THAT'S why Quan and Blake had good stats.

If YOU are one of those people that only care about stats...then YOU won't care if we go 3-13, as long as our QB has good stats.

I want wins.

One of the things that bother me is not getting the plays off on time. I think that is probably the result of the DC not getting the plays to the QB. As for Clemment there is no excuse for 4 false starts. Watch the dam ball if nothing else. There have been some outstanding deaft linemen in college. Do not try to lay it off on the QB. USA Today always shows the worst and best in stats. Our QB led the pack in yds gained. Our receiver set a new record with 200+ yds and 10 receptions. Jake the snake ends up with 3 interceptions, 108 yds and a QB rating of I think 21.7 or 27.1 and Denver wins. He will not be that lucky against a good team. I think the coaches had a bit to do with our loss but we still have no pass rush or no scheme that will allow our rushers to get to the QB. Not many holes for our RB's. It all gets back to not spending the money to get the players. We can blame everyone but as always the problem starts at the top and works its way down. We have not been losers for 50 years by accident.

 

[Lex]

I honestly believe that we had to continue to throw it yesterday, regardless of the outcome of the game. We must force teams to defend the pass in the future.

Nidan- to answer your question, if I was game planning for the seachickens next week, I'd do just what Mooch did to us. Stack the box, keep an eye on Quan across the middle, and win the game. Wins are the only stat that counts.

My hope is that our passing game gets better, so we can eventually run the ball. If not, we get the #1 pick overall next year.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by nidan
Do you honestly think that anybody is going to overlook Blake to Q after last week ?

Boldin will be a marked man from here on out and no DC worth his contract is going to overlook him. They will take special pains to contain him and the DBs we face from here only get better, by and large. The Lions DBs were horrible. Another WR will have to step up his game to allow Boldin more room to work. There will be no more surprises with Boldin IMO.

 

[Sandan]

My point was our passing game was reasonably good yesterday and Seattle will have to respect it.

I saw no evidence that Detroit could stop Q, I have no idea why you think they did. They didn't respect it and it would have cost them the came if our OL/game management had been even slightly less incompetent.

In the end we stopped ourselves

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Lex
I honestly believe that we had to continue to throw it yesterday, regardless of the outcome of the game. We must force teams to defend the pass in the future.

Nidan- to answer your question, if I was game planning for the seachickens next week, I'd do just what Mooch did to us. Stack the box, keep an eye on Quan across the middle, and win the game. Wins are the only stat that counts.

My hope is that our passing game gets better, so we can eventually run the ball. If not, we get the #1 pick overall next year.

It already is better. 2 big streaks were broken yesterday, the 1st drive of the game td streak, and Ed McCaffrey's games with a catch streak. Wonder if there's a common denominator in there somewhere?

If Seattle plays the same defense with their secondary problems, Blake should throw for 300 yards again. That's what good NFL QB's do when they face a stacked defense.

I just hope we don't have the same problems with the sound and getting the plays in.

And I hope someone introduces Wilson and our CB's to Koren Robinson before the game starts.

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by AZCB34
Boldin will be a marked man from here on out and no DC worth his contract is going to overlook him.

That will be one less body on LoS won't it and it should free up our receivers which now seems to include out TE.

 

[ajcardfan]

Lex,

This entire thread is stupid, you contradict your own main points several times. At one point, you're saying that Blake should be getting hammered for his mistakes. (Which, as far as I know, no one has given him a mulligan on, and the man himself said he screwed it up.) Then, you're turning around and saying that QB's are overrated when it comes to wins and losses. (So, why the big push to hammer on Blake?) Then, you turn around and claim a big reason for Denver's win, is the Bengals were so scared of Plummer it didn't matter he played like crap because he took them out of their gameplan and Portis ran wild. Then, anyone who uses "stats" you call a loser. Convenient, since stats wouldn't show Blake was the worst player on the Cards, and Plummer was the best on the Broncos.

That's mental masturbation at it's finest. Hell, your reasoning is the Kama Sutra of mental masturbation.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by nidan
That will be one less body on LoS won't it and it should free up our receivers which now seems to include out TE.

Thank God the TE is being used. He better not be forgotten.

Depending on how they cover him, they could still slide a guy up but that would be taking extra risk. A risk worth taking early to see if they can shut everything down for the Cards.

This is why another WR (I don't care who) had better step up his game. That will help the Blake/Boldin connection alot. Until that happens, Boldin will be double covered all game if they can reasonably get away with it. Sullivan should now be scheming to get Boldin free.

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
And I hope someone introduces Wilson and our CB's to Koren Robinson before the game starts.

Huh ?

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by AZCB34
This is why another WR (I don't care who) had better step up his game. That will help the Blake/Boldin connection alot. Until that happens, Boldin will be double covered all game if they can reasonably get away with it. Sullivan should now be scheming to get Boldin free.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by AZCB34
Thank God the TE is being used. He better not be forgotten.

No chance of him being forgotten.