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Well, 3 mins left in 3rd quarter and super star point guard Joe has no assists....wow, for the future leader to have no assists...all that money and no assists....and he has a whopping 10 pts...you go Joe!!!! :thumbup:
 
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Well, 3 mins left in 3rd quarter and super star point guard Joe has no assists....wow, for the future leader to have no assists...all that money and no assists....and he has a whopping 10 pts...you go Joe!!!! :thumbup:

You forgot to mention that he doesn't have a single assist?!?!
 
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I did say that...and he now has ONE assist with 7 minutes left in the 4th qtr...You go Joe!! :thumbup:
 

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On a side note, Atlanta finished with 8 assists ... 8 guys with one each.

That has to be some kind of record.
 

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Too bad Atlanta's pick this year will be protected. I think its safe to say they won't make the playoffs.
 

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Too bad Atlanta's pick this year will be protected. I think its safe to say they won't make the playoffs.

I'm really liking that 2007 pick. My fear is that it will be top three. :biglaugh:
 

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Too bad Atlanta's pick this year will be protected. I think its safe to say they won't make the playoffs.


Im glad it is protected, this is a bad draft class coming in.


I'm with George, I am definitely feeling good about the 2007 pick at this point - espcially since they probably won't keep Al. I can't imagine they will get another good FA, but I didn't see Joe wanting to go there either. :shrug:
 

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the sad thing about the 2007 pick is it's top three protected and i could see atlanta getting the top pick which turns out to be oden and then the unprotected pick the following year won't be NEARLY as high.
 

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AmareFan said:
I did say that...and he now has ONE assist with 7 minutes left in the 4th qtr...You go Joe!! :thumbup:

I thought they had moved JJ to shooting guard instead of point? That's prolly why he has so few assists. But nobody else is stepping up either.
 

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I thought they had moved JJ to shooting guard instead of point? That's prolly why he has so few assists. But nobody else is stepping up either.


I think he still starts at point.

He does play some SG when Lue is on the court with him.


He had 12 assists against Memphis on Saturday.
 

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I thought they had moved JJ to shooting guard instead of point? That's prolly why he has so few assists. But nobody else is stepping up either.

Check out the box score. No one had more than 1 assist for the hawks. A grand total of 8 assists for the game. That team is so bad. No wonder Boris was unable to have an impact! I'll bet movement without the ball is like a still life painting.
 

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Yes you may BASH, KICK and post funny pictures of past Suns players. :suns:


and Yes BIM you can post Laker stuff here also. :)
 

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Yes you may BASH, KICK and post funny pictures of past Suns players. :suns:


and Yes BIM you can post Laker stuff here also. :)

Damn it Barkley, not again!!!

Say, I thought Charles was 6'5", 6'6" tops. Why does this pic indicate him being 6'8"?

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6' 4 1/2" to 6' 8" . . . maybe they gave him a box to stand on . . . like they used to do with the 5' 6" actors when they did love scenes -- old time actor Alan Ladd, Dustin Hoffman, etc. :D
 

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ok I need something to make me feel better since last nights game:

Well at least Atlanta comes first in alphabetical order. :)
Joe Johnson
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18.4 Points
5.3 Assets
4.6 Rbs
24.1% 3s
3.57 Turnovers

Atlanta 0-7

Q
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7.5 Points
1.6 Assets
3.8 Rbs
40% 3s
1.75 TO

NY 2-6

Hunter
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4.2 Rbs
1.89 Blks
76rs 6-3

Just for you BIM
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12.6 pts
3.1 Asts
2.83 Turnovers

4-4
 

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PTS REB AST STL BLK FTM 3PTM MIN

32 11.2 5.5 2.2 .6 3.3 5.1 75.4

33.4 12.0 8.4 2.0 2.3 3.8 4.2 88.8


Anybody know, which is JJ/Q and which is Diaw/Jones/Bell? The new group obviously shoots better, I personally don't think Bell is a better defender than JJ but the group as whole is... there's more depth, although hopefully the 3 of newbies minus Stoudemire pick up scoring but I would have-to say minus Stoudemire and with less depth than current squad, Barbosa would still be putting up similar numbers, unless the Team Drafted a 1/2/3 and JJack was key player but someone would be putting up the numbers...


I really like Diaw and Jones and the last Team is over with but remember the owner still has to pay the new guys, everyone was soooo anxious to look ahead with last roster and no one has probably seen that Diaw and Barbosa are in for big paydays and Roster is already near Luxury for next 3 years... saying all that, I'd rather have this Team :D but count ME as extremely pissed if this Team gets blown up too because Sarver isn't willing to pay, AGAIN.


My favorite players are Marion, Stoudemire, Diaw, Nash, Barbosa, and Jones - and the only one I wouldn't be as mad to see gone is Nash - this Team is getting young again and he would bring in a great package deal... I am starting to like Bell as well and House (although a UofA fan) isn't bad for a change of pace lower bench type or 3rd PG... I'd like to see how Thompson fits in a few years (with JJack possibly leaving) - I'm still excited but with a ton of Draft Picks and lots of depth, how many players can you add?


For some reason, I think there's going to be a Trade?? And I'm not talking about JJack...
 

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Kurt Thomas F/C
Kenyon Martin PF
Shawn Marion F
Boris Diaw G/F
Leandro Barbosa G

Raja Bell SG
James Jones F
Earl Boykins PG
Eddie House PG
Pat Burke C
Dijon Thompson G/F
Sharrod Ford PF



The Team could bring KT off bench when Stat returns and Boykins is solid off bench at PG but hopefully the Barbosa and Diaw backcourt gets it done, if not, you're not looking for the need of a great PG with 247 1st Round Picks and Trade Exception to work with (Speedy Claxton possibly) - I am looking for youth... I'd rather not Trade but I am giving an example for a legit big that's young that a Team could possibly Trade. IMO with Nene out for year and the mention that the Team wants him back and will try to shave off capspace, JJack and Grant have 1 year offers... and Nash and JJack could help them for perimeter?


I wouldn't be too worried about building a Dynasty with that Team now that Nash and Camby are wearing down after 3 years from now... Anthony doesn't scare ME as much as the League makes you think...


Anywho, something like that :p Draft a PG. It could work???
 

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Kenyon Martin? Yes, let's have two power forwards on maximum contracts who are trying to recover from microfracture surgery. That's an excellent idea.
 

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LOL I didn't even know... it was just an idea, I am not gonna waste all that time, thinking of which Team or who (like any fan is calling any Trade) but unless the Team is playing really well... I'd guess Nash would be the one to leave.


Or something like JJack sometime, then Trade Exception, then another Trade... the Suns are always expected to do some kind of blockbuster.


I guess Webber is out of question? :p
 

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Just for the record Joe's shooting % has dipped even more


he is down to 39% shooting and 29% from three...

been watching him lately and he takes guys one on one every time down the floor...he is hurting his team more than he is helping

can't wait for his return on sunday.
 

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Amare32 said:
Just for the record Joe's shooting % has dipped even more


he is down to 39% shooting and 29% from three...

been watching him lately and he takes guys one on one every time down the floor...he is hurting his team more than he is helping

can't wait for his return on sunday.

Wow, I wonder if we can use Boris' and Joes shooting percentages as hawks and suns to figure out the shooting percentage penalty for playing in a crappy system with a bunch of selfish players. Its gotta be at least 5-8% FG drop to go to the hawks. Its hard to feel sorry for joe, you know, he goes home to his (paid off) 15,000 sq ft house and checks his investment portfolio and laughs like hell. As long as he doesn't take himself too seriously, hate losing, or think he has a chance for peer respect or recognition, there is very little downside. Coming back to phoenix for some humble pie is only going to happen 1-2 times a year. I would really get a kick out of it if Boris was assigned to defend him this sunday and smothered him. It would be so ironic!
 

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Its going to be funny watching how Joe Reacts when Phoenix Boo's him when he plays here
 

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Apparently, the Hawks are about to implode:

Who's leading the Hawks?
Divisions exist between vets, younger players

By SEKOU SMITH
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 12/02/05
It is clear the Hawks have a locker room divided, between players separated by years of service if not by age, and it threatens to torpedo their season.

Locker room chemistry is a problem for the 2-12 Hawks, by far the NBA's youngest team with an average age of 23.5 years. On one side are veterans Joe Johnson, Al Harrington, Tony Delk and Zaza Pachulia. On the other side are the eight players with a year or less of NBA experience.

Johnson, a co-captain and the Hawks' $70 million free agent acquisition, accepts blame for allowing things in the locker room to deteriorate. He also acknowledged that he has felt pressure to lead such an inexperienced group.

"I just think we're not a unit, we're not a unit at all," said Royal Ivey, a second-year point guard. "You can't win like that. We've got to have some leadership, some kind of glue to keep us together. And it's something that has to be amongst us, not coaches or anyone else outside our locker room.

"There's nobody there right now to take over and step up and command people and hold people accountable."

"How can you say anything is together when you're losing like this?" co-captain Harrington said.

"We've got to grow up, man, all of us, not just one group or the other," Johnson said.

In captains Johnson and Harrington, the Hawks have players with a combined 11 years in the NBA.

In the teen-free NBA of yesteryear, captains usually were 11-year veterans. But that league is a faded memory for people like Hawks coach Mike Woodson, whose future likely depends on his players' ability to repair their fractured locker room culture.

"I've got to trust, as a coach, that Joe, Al, the veteran guys that are captains and the veteran guys around those captains, are policing that locker room," Woodson said. "They not only have to make sure those [young] guys do what they're supposed to do, they have to live up to those standards, as well."

Woodson called out his captains and Pachulia after Tuesday night's loss to Houston for the selfish offensive play against the Rockets, making it clear that he won't exonerate his older players.

Harrington said the culprit for most of the discontent, amongst both young and older, is the losing.

"When you're losing there are no positives that come from that," Harrington said. "And I've never seen nothing like this before. This is my second year dealing with it. But you can never find any positives."

Still, Harrington insists that whatever locker room issues exist — and to a man the players understand that there's a connection missing — it's not to the point that they genuinely don't like or care about one another.

"There's no real beef in there," he said. "There's no physical tension between us. Nobody can say I don't pass somebody the ball because I don't like him. It's just a lot of times, during the course of a game people want to, with good intentions, try to do it alone. They want to do it and I think the wrong people try and do that."

Johnson knows it's up to he and Harrington to take the initiative now, before it gets any worse.

"I think it's a situation where me or Al has to jump down somebody's throat," he said. "Or maybe it's me jumping down Al's throat or Al jumping down my throat. Maybe we have to make an example out of ourselves to show everybody else that ultimately it's up to us to make this thing right."

At the same time, Johnson said every man in the locker room, has to recognize the responsibility they have in fixing the problem and get to work.

"Our attitudes have to be together," Johnson said. "We can't be happy go lucky and patting each other on the [butt] when we win a game or two, and then when we lose a few games everybody has got there head between their legs. . . . This is our job, we're professionals. And we have to start acting like it."

Can the problem be fixed in time for the Hawks to salvage their season?

"It can," second-year forward Josh Childress said, "but guys have got to buy into it. And I'm talking about everybody. Right now we have that separation. But they [veterans] need us like we need them. For us to work and for us to win and be competitive, we have to have everybody playing together.

"And I wish it was a simple as us having a meeting or sitting down and talking about, but I don't think it is. All of our actions will speak louder than any one person's words."
 
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