JJ Watt possibly out for the season

[Vacard]

It would. But based off that Dr. video and the release of the extent of his injuries I’m betting there is a .00001% chance of that occurring.

What video?

 

[MrYeahBut]

What video?

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[Stout]

I don't get all the complaining about the D. They gave up 140 yards to RB's. That's not much worse than average in the modern NFL, current average is 113 per game. Did 27 yards over average cost us the game? What matters is they stopped them twice in the RZ and without the turnovers limited them to 14 points.

It was clearly our offense that blew the game. Obviously with the final play but they sucked in the first half. They had 4 drives, 1 of which was a TD, the other 3 were 3 and out, 3 and out, 4 and out and combined took 4:58. We had 8 minutes of possession in the first 2 quarters.

For all the talk of the Packers run D keeping us off the field the big difference was those 3 short crappy drives.

If you don't get how they used their running game to control the clock and 100 percent set the tempo of this game, I don't know what to tell you. You keep talking about how this was just no big deal, and this is clearly not the case. Our defense clearly was a problem as well. It doesn't just have to be one thing that helped lose us this game. There's more than enough blame to go around.

 

[BritCard]

If you don't get how they used their running game to control the clock and 100 percent set the tempo of this game, I don't know what to tell you. You keep talking about how this was just no big deal, and this is clearly not the case. Our defense clearly was a problem as well. It doesn't just have to be one thing that helped lose us this game. There's more than enough blame to go around.

They controlled the TOP primary because we had 3 drives in the first half that used less than 5 minutes combined. And our TD drive was only 3 minutes.

They controlled TOP because our offense didn't when they were on the field.

GB's longest drive was 8:23. It was 14 plays and had 7 runs. Average run pass split. It was extended because of Golden's neutral zone infraction on 3rd down. If you want to blame anything blame that.

Their 2nd longest drive was 7:22. It was 14 plays, only 6 runs. 4 of those runs were inside our 5. They went down the field with pass. Again average run split.

Their 3rd longest drive was 6:26. It was 11 plays and 5 runs. Average run pass split.

No other drive was worth much.

They didn't control the TOP because they dominated long drives with run. They dominated TOP because we didn't run on offense, too many of our offensive drives were 3 or 4 and out and we turned over the ball twice and gave them extra time on the ball. They are the only reason they won the battle of possession.

 

[Canuckfan]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

 

[BritCard]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

Alexa, show me a huge overreaction.

JJ played 16 games last year and was awesome in 7 straight. Could have happened to anyone.

AJ Green is on track for a shade under 1000 yards.

 

[tnmike]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

Nonsense

 

[tnmike]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

I guess using your reasoning the next time you screw up at work you should be fired. Your company should just put you on waivers.

 

[QuebecCard]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

 

[cardncubfan]

JJ Watt should never have been signed. His age and our knowledge he got hurt easily should have rang bells.
AJ Green - I would prefer he is never thrown another ball.

Can't tell if trolling or serious. Definitely seems like trolling since both players have been a great addition to the team.

 

[Cheesebeef]

They controlled the TOP primary because we had 3 drives in the first half that used less than 5 minutes combined. And our TD drive was only 3 minutes.

They controlled TOP because our offense didn't when they were on the field.

GB's longest drive was 8:23. It was 14 plays and had 7 runs. Average run pass split. It was extended because of Golden's neutral zone infraction on 3rd down. If you want to blame anything blame that.

Their 2nd longest drive was 7:22. It was 14 plays, only 6 runs. 4 of those runs were inside our 5. They went down the field with pass. Again average run split.

Their 3rd longest drive was 6:26. It was 11 plays and 5 runs. Average run pass split.

No other drive was worth much.

They didn't control the TOP because they dominated long drives with run. They dominated TOP because we didn't run on offense, too many of our offensive drives were 3 or 4 and out and we turned over the ball twice and gave them extra time on the ball. They are the only reason they won the battle of possession.

Their top two drives were only... an entire QUARTER of the game!

Pathological dude.

 

[BritCard]

Their top two drives were only... an entire QUARTER of the game!

Pathological dude.

What part of average run pass split did you fail to understand? Those 2 drives were 28 plays and had 13 runs. So explain to me how they controlled TOP through the run?

TOP is a scale. You take some off one side, it goes on the other. They didn't control the clock because they ran the ball all over us. They controlled the ball because especially in the first half all our drives were crap. And we turned it over twice. And we didn't run the ball ourselves.

I explained all this very clearly.

Edit - Also, if you take the top 2 drives for any team in most games they will take a quarter of the game.

 

[Stout]

Their top two drives were only... an entire QUARTER of the game!

Pathological dude.

Forget it. He is entrenched and convinced our run defense was just fine in that game. He had zero problem with our run defense. Just...yeah.

 

[BritCard]

Forget it. He is entrenched and convinced our run defense was just fine in that game. He had zero problem with our run defense. Just...yeah.

I said the run defense was ok considering we had 3 iDL out and Philips and Allen had to play a tonne of snaps. We allowed 140ish rushing yards to RB's when the average is 113. So 27 more than the average. It's not like they ran for 200 yards.

But the argument you stood on was that they controlled the TOP through running and I showed they didn't. Our offense gave TOP away.

I like how I'm the difficult one when I've backed everything I've said up with stats.

 

[Stout]

I said the run defense was ok considering we had 3 iDL out and Philips and Allen had to play a tonne of snaps. We allowed 140ish rushing yards to RB's when the average is 113. So 27 more than the average. It's not like they ran for 200 yards.

But the argument you stood on was that they controlled the TOP through running and I showed they didn't. Our offense gave TOP away.

I like how I'm the difficult one when I've backed everything I've said up with stats.

You don't have to run the ball every snap, or the majority of the snaps, to utilize it to control the game and TOP. By gouging us on the ground, and through terrible tackling and a poor defensive scheme that had nothing to do with injuries, the short passing game opened up, which AR and the Pack used as an extension of the run. Pretty clear how it unfolded, watching the game.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Forget it. He is entrenched and convinced our run defense was just fine in that game. He had zero problem with our run defense. Just...yeah.

Personally my issue is that Vance sat back and didn't change a damn thing when it was obvious what they are doing. Trust the players on the damn field! Make adjustments. Be aggressive.

 

[QuebecCard]

Personally my issue is that Vance sat back and didn't change a damn thing when it was obvious what they are doing. Trust the players on the damn field! Make adjustments. Be aggressive.

Well, I'm not going to blame Vance when time-after-time players were in a position to make a 'stuff' and either allowed the runner to slip by or out muscle.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Well, I'm not going to blame Vance when time-after-time players were in a position to make a 'stuff' and either allowed the runner to slip by or out muscle.

Right but that happened over and over, so why not bring another defender into the box?

 

[BritCard]

You don't have to run the ball every snap, or the majority of the snaps, to utilize it to control the game and TOP. By gouging us on the ground, and through terrible tackling and a poor defensive scheme that had nothing to do with injuries, the short passing game opened up, which AR and the Pack used as an extension of the run. Pretty clear how it unfolded, watching the game.

Yes it is pretty clear. We didn't run the ball enough and we had too many short, stalled drives.

 

[Stout]

Yes it is pretty clear. We didn't run the ball enough and we had too many short, stalled drives.

So glad you're pleased with horrible run defense. Let's hope VJ doesn't share your opinion.

 

[QuebecCard]

Right but that happened over and over, so why not bring another defender into the box?

It also happened outside the box.

 

[Krangodnzr]

So glad you're pleased with horrible run defense. Let's hope VJ doesn't share your opinion.

Like I've said, I was annoyed that the Cardinals continued to show a lot of two high looks. Bring a damn safety into the box! Force the depleted Packers to win with PS receivers. Don't let them bludgeon you, eat up the clock.

The coaches can say that players were in position to make the tackles and didn't, but when it happens over and over, something tactically should change.

 

[Krangodnzr]

It also happened outside the box.

Yep, but it doesn't change that the Cardinals basically used a "we dare you to run and dink and dunk down the field" strategy and the Packers did that and the Cardinals lost the game.

 

[Stout]

Like I've said, I was annoyed that the Cardinals continued to show a lot of two high looks. Bring a damn safety into the box! Force the depleted Packers to win with PS receivers. Don't let them bludgeon you, eat up the clock.

The coaches can say that players were in position to make the tackles and didn't, but when it happens over and over, something tactically should change.

Absolutely. Definitely a head scratcher.

 

[Shane]

Keim supposed to be on 98.7 at 3 to give a jj watt update just FYI