John Clatyon| Philly and NYG frontrunners for the Boldin sweepstakes

[Jersey Girl]

I'd be willing to bet that Philly would rather have Anquan. One because of his run after the catch ability and two because it directly affects an NFC rival, the Cards. They must be salivating at the thought of meeting the Cardinals again with a highly motivated Quan in Iggle green.

I think most teams would rather have Anquan. I'm just not sure Philly would be willing to give up enough for us to make the trade.

 

[daves]

If they take less from say a team in the AFC, then that team can go ahead with the deal and subsequently shuffle him off to Philly for an even better deal. What will we have accomplished then?! To get taken! The team that got him used us to trade him. It's a possibility.

IF the Cardinals were to take a lesser offer from an AFC team, they would surely include a "no re-trade" clause in the trade agreement!

I understand the logic of those who advocate trading Boldin to whatever team offers the best compensation. Theoretically, in addition to the Cardinals being strengthened as much as possible, the trade partner is being weakened as much as possible, so who cares if it's an NFC team? In fact, all the better to weaken an NFC opponent! And by that logic, why not trade within the division?

Given that the Cardinals are now at a point where they expect to reach the playoffs and contend for the Super Bowl, i think most NFL executives would be reluctant to trade a Pro-Bowl player to a team that has a good chance of meeting the Cardinals in the playoffs. The downside of taking a slightly lesser offer is less than the downside of being knocked out of the playoffs by Boldin's new team.

Hearing fans complain that "we could've had a higher draft pick" is nothing compared to what Graves would hear if an NFC team with Boldin knocked the Cardinals out of the playoffs in the next couple of years!

Considering offers from every team is the best way to drive up the bidding. Taking the best offer from any team, regardless of conference or division, may be the most logical thing to do. But from a practical standpoint, a trade within the division is extremely unlikely, and a trade within the NFC would require a far better compensation package than a trade to the AFC.

...dave

 

[WildBB]

Considering offers from every team is the best way to drive up the bidding. Taking the best offer from any team, regardless of conference or division, may be the most logical thing to do. But from a practical standpoint, a trade within the division is extremely unlikely, and a trade within the NFC would require a far better compensation package than a trade to the AFC.

...dave

True that. It's the ONLY way to really judge what his real value is out there. Someone needs to come up with a REAL competitive bid to the Cardinals rivals, out there. Then you proceed.

 

[Stout]

Sort of like how the Cards told Bertrand Berry to restructure at a lower amount last season, or be cut?

I don't like the NFL contract system, but if the teams can cancel a players contract at any given moment in time...I have no problems with players "demanding" salary increases when they feel it is warrented. (Anyone find it odd that if a coach gets fired...he still gets paid?)

In 20 years, I'll be dissapointed if I'm not earning 3x my current salary in my current occupation. For players like Boldin...they may be more concerned with being able to get from their bed to the bathroom pain free every morning.

Boldin is a great player and certainly one of my favorites. I hope that he remains on the team for several more seasons; but, long after he is gone, I'll still be a fan of the team, no matter who takes the field.

Go Cards!!!

All well and good, and I agree that players do get the shaft on occasion. Boldin? I just don't see it. I have very little sympathy for him. He came in as a lights-out rookie, and earned a new deal. We ripped up his rookie contract and gave him a brand new 4-year deal. Then he wants a new deal after one season? Hey, we tried to get him one and he turned it down. Instead of putting in a counter-offer, he huffed and puffed and said he'd wait until the Fitz deal was done. He gambled and lost. FULLY on his shoulders. Just because we said we'd get him a new contract doesn't mean we'll just immediately cave in and give him the world.

He's acting like a whiney little baby, though I suspect that's his agent talking through him. If he wants to talk new deal, sure, try to get him to come back happy. If he wants anywhere in the realm of the Fitz deal, then trade him. I'd love to have him back, but you cannot put that much money into one position. If it's a hefty raise but a tier down from Fitz, I'm all for it. Otherwise, we will trade you, Q, wherever we feel like it. If we don't get enough of an offer, then you'll stay where you are and play for what your contract says.

 

[DoTheDew]

My brother, an Eagles fan, and I have been texting about this for the past few minutes. He says that TJ Who's Your Mama wants to play for the Eagles, though I have no idea where he heard that (am waiting for a reply). Anyone else here this? If he goes to Philly, then I doubt they press hard for Boldin.

It was on ESPN last week. If I remember right, TJ himself was on there talking about how he would like to play with McNabb.

 

[moklerman]

TO's release is imminent according to various sources. Boldin didn't pick the best offseason to try this sort of thing. Will the Cardinals really get a lights out offer for Boldin if all these other WR's are out there too? Maybe Jones is back in the mix but what would Dallas really have to offer at this point?

 

[Skkorpion]

Will you guys please stoip crying about him getting traded to an NFC team. Nobody in the NFL would care about that and I have no idea why you do. It doesn't make sense.

The Cards know Boldin inside and out, and I promise you they would rather play a Giants team that had him than one with Wes Welker, because they know Q's game.

Finally making sense again, Justin. Let's see how many games Boldin's knees, hamstrings and shoulders can keep him in in a cold weather city with outdoor stadium.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Finally making sense again, Justin. Let's see how many games Boldin's knees, hamstrings and shoulders can keep him in in a cold weather city with outdoor stadium.

Damn skippy Skorp!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Shane]

TO's release is imminent according to various sources. Boldin didn't pick the best offseason to try this sort of thing. Will the Cardinals really get a lights out offer for Boldin if all these other WR's are out there too? Maybe Jones is back in the mix but what would Dallas really have to offer at this point?

I honestly dont believe a FA TO would effect the Boldins status. Especially as far as the Giants and Eagles are concerned.

 

[jmt]

Ho-hum - whatever happens half the folks on this board will say we got screwed.

 

[Gandhi]

It was on ESPN last week. If I remember right, TJ himself was on there talking about how he would like to play with McNabb.

Prior to the last season, Chad Johnson went on about have he would love to play with McNabb, only to say the same about playing with Romo the next day.
In fact, I think I have read somewhere, that Houshmandzadeh suddenly loved the Bears when he was on a local station in Chicago shortly after he said that about the Eagles.

Most players will say anything to get them a big contract.

 

[WildBB]

Ho-hum - whatever happens half the folks on this board will say we got screwed.

They hold all the Cards (literally) in this.

 

[Black Jesus]

never thought id say this but trade Boldin for some picks and a servicable defender or backup corner or safety to replace Francisco who cost us the superbowl.

 

[lauraw]

francisco didnt throw the ball into harrisons hands for a 10 to 14 point turnaround on the final play of the half in an eventual 4 point loss..