Keeping Perspective

[JCSunsfan]

Palmer only attempted 24 passes. If your QB is getting hit on 25% of his attempts, that's not great.

Just to put that in perspective, Andrew Luck attempted 616 passes last year and was hit 91 times (most in football). That's 15% of his dropbacks. Luck tends to hold the ball, though.

Top Brady dropped back 582 times last year and was hit 61 times (11%).

The o-line has given up a total of 0 sacks and 7 qb hits. That combo is second best in the league. Only the Jets are better with 0 sacks and 4 hits but they have only played 1 game.

The Cardinals are 4th in the league in total QB hits with 7, only Dallas (5), GB (6), and Pitt (5), are better and not by much.

The Cardinals have 7 hits on the QB in 56 pass attempts for 12.5%. Given the quality of the defenses the Cardinals have faced so far, its not bragging material, but it is not horrible by any stretch.

I think the issue is that every one of us cringe when Palmer gets touched because of his injury history, so it seems like more.

Oh. And for the record. NFL.com com has NE with 609 oass attempts last year and getting hit 82 times for 13.5%. Maybe your numbers only counted Brady's attempts. The Cowboys did have an 11% number, but they were probably the best o-line in the league last year. The Broncos had the lowest percentage at around 7% but that is likely due to Manning's incredibly quick release.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...fensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false

 

[overseascardfan]

I think actually the secondary had a few breakdowns while also coming up big on some picks.

I saw some promise out of the rush, but there is no one elite rusher, it's going to require all going full out all game and I think the staff is keeping them in a good rotation as we have very decent depth on the front 7.

We have got to get more pressure on the QB, Wilson and Kaepernick really struggle against defenses with strong pass rushes, if ARZ can't get to them then we could be in trouble.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We have got to get more pressure on the QB, Wilson and Kaepernick really struggle against defenses with strong pass rushes, if ARZ can't get to them then we could be in trouble.

This one is true.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Worried about the front 7 still. Looked pretty awful pre-Clausen. Also the preseason hype of JJ Nelson and Rodney Gunter was just that.

That said any road win in the NFL is a good win.

Yeah going into the season that was my only concern with the team.

Every team has a weakness though. The good news is the next draft is

loaded with devensive lineman. I want one of these guys in the first:

Robert ndemke ( sp?).. a monster against Bama..top five pick..

Shawn Oakman de Baylor..sculpted like a greek God..Caliias Campbell clone

Andrew Billings DT Baylor

Ashawn Robinson DT Alabama..stud 330 pounder

Adolphus Washington....DT Ohio State..dancing bear..mvp of the NI game

Deforest Buckner ...Oregon

 

[MadCardDisease]

You know what I'm craving? A little perspective. That's it. I'd like some fresh, clear, well seasoned perspective. Can you suggest a good wine to go with that?

 

[GatorAZ]

Yeah going into the season that was my only concern with the team.

Every team has a weakness though. The good news is the next draft is

loaded with devensive lineman. I want one of these guys in the first:

Robert ndemke ( sp?).. a monster against Bama..top five pick..

Shawn Oakman de Baylor..sculpted like a greek God..Caliias Campbell clone

Andrew Billings DT Baylor

Ashawn Robinson DT Alabama..stud 330 pounder

Adolphus Washington....DT Ohio State..dancing bear..mvp of the NI game

Deforest Buckner ...Oregon

Nkemdiche might even go #1. He's that special.

Anyway my worry with the DL is this year but not going forward. Gunter will be a mainstay but it takes time.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yeah going into the season that was my only concern with the team.

Every team has a weakness though. The good news is the next draft is

loaded with devensive lineman. I want one of these guys in the first:

Robert ndemke ( sp?).. a monster against Bama..top five pick..

Shawn Oakman de Baylor..sculpted like a greek God..Caliias Campbell clone

Andrew Billings DT Baylor

Ashawn Robinson DT Alabama..stud 330 pounder

Adolphus Washington....DT Ohio State..dancing bear..mvp of the NI game

Deforest Buckner ...Oregon

That Joey Bosa guy is not bad either.

 

[kerouac9]

The o-line has given up a total of 0 sacks and 7 qb hits. That combo is second best in the league. Only the Jets are better with 0 sacks and 4 hits but they have only played 1 game.

The Cardinals are 4th in the league in total QB hits with 7, only Dallas (5), GB (6), and Pitt (5), are better and not by much.

The Cardinals have 7 hits on the QB in 56 pass attempts for 12.5%. Given the quality of the defenses the Cardinals have faced so far, its not bragging material, but it is not horrible by any stretch.

I think the issue is that every one of us cringe when Palmer gets touched because of his injury history, so it seems like more.

Oh. And for the record. NFL.com com has NE with 609 oass attempts last year and getting hit 82 times for 13.5%. Maybe your numbers only counted Brady's attempts. The Cowboys did have an 11% number, but they were probably the best o-line in the league last year. The Broncos had the lowest percentage at around 7% but that is likely due to Manning's incredibly quick release.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...fensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false

The Cards are also 24th in the league in passing attempts. Putting up counting stats without comparison or context doesn't mean much (and this is a small sample size, so it should all be taken with a grain of salt).

My passing attempt numbers from Brady and Luck for last year were from ProFootballReference and the QB hit numbers were from FO's annual.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

That Joey Bosa guy is not bad either.

LOL I assume he is going number 2 behind the Cal quarterback

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Cards are also 24th in the league in passing attempts. Putting up counting stats without comparison or context doesn't mean much (and this is a small sample size, so it should all be taken with a grain of salt).

My passing attempt numbers from Brady and Luck for last year were from ProFootballReference and the QB hit numbers were from FO's annual.

Sigh. I think I put up enough info to relate a clear picture, and a link to the source.

 

[NavyVet]

Sigh. I think I put up enough info to relate a clear picture, and a link to the source.

I'm not sure where the line is between it's just a game and let's over-analyze every stat. Some posters are just so statistical driven and it make me cringe. We're 2-0. Everyone, just close your eyes, take a deep breath, and let it happen. We're a good team, we may win, we may lose. Fate will ultimately control where we end up. Enjoy the ride, hug your loved ones, party with friends and family, cheer the Cards on. It's just a game.

 

[Chopper0080]

Worried about the front 7 still. Looked pretty awful pre-Clausen. Also the preseason hype of JJ Nelson and Rodney Gunter was just that.

That said any road win in the NFL is a good win.

Gunter is getting 31% of defensive snaps, and is doing just fine. He is doing fine with his role.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

It's just a game.

Wait, what? When did that happen?

 

[slanidrac16]

Yeah going into the season that was my only concern with the team.

Every team has a weakness though. The good news is the next draft is

loaded with devensive lineman. I want one of these guys in the first:

Robert ndemke ( sp?).. a monster against Bama..top five pick..

Shawn Oakman de Baylor..sculpted like a greek God..Caliias Campbell clone

Andrew Billings DT Baylor

Ashawn Robinson DT Alabama..stud 330 pounder

Adolphus Washington....DT Ohio State..dancing bear..mvp of the NI game

Deforest Buckner ...Oregon

Will any of these guys be available with the 32nd pick?

 

[PJ1]

Gunter is getting 31% of defensive snaps, and is doing just fine. He is doing fine with his role.

Disagree. He isn't close to what Dan Williams was. He may get there but right now he isn't close.

 

[cardncubfan]

I'm not sure where the line is between it's just a game and let's over-analyze every stat. Some posters are just so statistical driven and it make me cringe. We're 2-0. Everyone, just close your eyes, take a deep breath, and let it happen. We're a good team, we may win, we may lose. Fate will ultimately control where we end up. Enjoy the ride, hug your loved ones, party with friends and family, cheer the Cards on. It's just a game.

+1

 

[GuernseyCard]

Disagree. He isn't close to what Dan Williams was. He may get there but right now he isn't close.

Dan Williams wasn't close to what he is today in year one. He may never be as good a run plugger as Williams, but it's likely he'll bring more pressure than the Dumpster.

 

[PJ1]

Dan Williams wasn't close to what he is today in year one. He may never be as good a run plugger as Williams, but it's likely he'll bring more pressure than the Dumpster.

Agree with this but I believe Gunter is more of a project at this point.

 

[kerouac9]

Gunter is getting 31% of defensive snaps, and is doing just fine. He is doing fine with his role.

I dunno. I think he's doing just fine within the context of this defense. I think the difference between Bettcher and Bowles is that Bettcher is much more likely to scheme blitzes against the run (gap-plugging) while Bowles seemed to trust his front-seven to plug the run and be disciplined and would scheme pass blitzes (gap-overload). That double-A-gap blitz that we saw so often last year hasn't been around much this season.

I think part of that is that the personnel in the front seven isn't is as good or experienced as it was last year. It might be more talented, but that talent hasn't been seasoned enough to make up the difference.

 

[Chopper0080]

Disagree. He isn't close to what Dan Williams was. He may get there but right now he isn't close.

There isn't a 4 million dollar difference between the two.