Keim is unhappy with Butler - Wile Added to Practice Squad

[Jetstream Green]

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Just great, because only a punter is allowed to hold... though there is about 10 guys on our current roster that could

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Personally, I'd like to see PP21 as the holder...

 

[juza76]

Personally, I'd like to see PP21 as the holder...

Then he can make some tricky plays

 

[Cardiac]

Agree. We saw in Week 1 how a botched snap could decide the outcome of a game. Holding is a lot more than just catching the football and putting it on the ground. If Wile can't execute that, then he's even more of a liability than Butler overall. There are a lot of moving parts involved in a snap, hold, and kick. Because it is done repetitiously with little issue, it's not commonly discussed.

My outlook on this is that Butler and Wile are in a mini competition for the week, and that if Wile can hold a snap, Butler is gone.

All of this and I'd add the reason BA and most teams (if not all) have the punter hold for kicks is they have a ton of time to practice it unlike a back up QB etc. The punter, LS'er and kicker simply have all the time in the world to practice together.

 

[Darkside]

I'm sorry but Keim should be unhappy with himself & kick himself in the balls for bringing him back. On top of that, his decision cost his team a draft pick

That's the part that blows my mind, that we gave up anything for him. This dude has been taking from this team all year, paychecks and wins and a draft pick.

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[CardNots]

Ya Think, Keim.

You didn't replace him this year. You cut a better punter to bring him back. You sat on your butt while other teams signed better punters off the street. You refuse to fire Amos Jones.

+2

 

[nashman]

Butler should be sitting on his couch by game time Sunday! Stanton can freaking hold sure he can put down the clipboard once in awhile and do something to earn his salary! Only the ******** cards keep an awful punter because he can hold how ridiculous is that?

 

[BigRedRage]

All of this and I'd add the reason BA and most teams (if not all) have the punter hold for kicks is they have a ton of time to practice it unlike a back up QB etc. The punter, LS'er and kicker simply have all the time in the world to practice together.

Good point

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[Stout]

Just when you think Keim might have figured it out...*head shake* Is this era back all of a sudden?

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[cardpa]

Butler should be sitting on his couch by game time Sunday! Stanton can freaking hold sure he can put down the clipboard once in awhile and do something to earn his salary! Only the ******** cards keep an awful punter because he can hold how ridiculous is that?

THIS! Stanton I believe has been a holder before, why not have him do something to earn his salary.

 

[Dback Jon]

THIS! Stanton I believe has been a holder before, why not have him do something to earn his salary.

Practicing holding would take away from his dance practice

 

[juza76]

Practicing holding would take away from his dance practice

He can do both, stanton is flexible

 

[Son of RedRage]

Practicing holding would take away from his dance practice

Hey, he's a good dancer at least...

 

[daves]

My theory is in practice he just takes his time and punts.

In practice against the Cardinals' "Special" teams punt defense, he can take all the time he likes!
...dbs

 

[daves]

assuming it is to let theme compete this week prior to the game.

Also to give Wile time to practice holding for Catanzaro? (Ah, i see that was confirmed above by Somers' tweet. Though, why Stanton hasn't been practicing as a holder also, and couldn't fill in until Wile masters it, i dunno!)

And time is needed for the Cards' "Special" teams to get accustomed to covering punt returns where the punt goes more than 30 yards....

...dbs

 

[BigRedRage]

One thing to note, Palmer does not practice on the first day, just film study and on day two he is limited. Stanton gets a TON of reps every week and doesnt have a lot of time to go hold for kicks

 

[carrrnuttt]

One thing to note, Palmer does not practice on the first day, just film study and on day two he is limited. Stanton gets a TON of reps every week and doesnt have a lot of time to go hold for kicks

Maybe that's why most of the receivers have had off timing routes throughout this season. They're used to compensating for Stanton's errant passes when he's QB'ing during practices.

 

[BigRedRage]

Maybe that's why most of the receivers have had off timing routes throughout this season. They're used to compensating for Stanton's errant passes when he's QB'ing during practices.

Maybe, but Meh.

Floys is mostly on target and just cant catch. Fitz and Johnson dont seem to be having issues.

 

[vince56]

Watch Floyd and his lackadaisical route running. I fear he is either hiding an injury or is dogging it this year.

 

[cardpa]

Practicing holding would take away from his dance practice

I heard he was offered a spot on Dancing with the Stars!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Just when you think Keim might have figured it out...*head shake* Is this era back all of a sudden?

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Keim made more moves in his first year than Gaves did during his entire time with the Cardinals.

So, no. 1000 times no.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Watch Floyd and his lackadaisical route running. I fear he is either hiding an injury or is dogging it this year.

He picked the wrong year to dog it... Unless he has a backdoor agreement with another team.

/tinfoilhat

 

[speedy]

He picked the wrong year to dog it... Unless he has a backdoor agreement with another team.

/tinfoilhat

Makes no sense. How could dogging it be beneficial for him?

 

[john h]

I have always been of the opinion that punters and kickers are more important than most teams management recognize. They should be an important part of the draft and scouting. We are probably still thinking about the kicker #1 draft pick we made out of Arkansas that ended his career in a car crash after one year. There has been an amazing number of extra points missed this year. We could have won 2 more games with a good kicker. Where is Jim Bakken?

 

[Jetstream Green]

I have always been of the opinion that punters and kickers are more important than most teams management recognize. They should be an important part of the draft and scouting. We are probably still thinking about the kicker #1 draft pick we made out of Arkansas that ended his career in a car crash after one year. There has been an amazing number of extra points missed this year. We could have won 2 more games with a good kicker. Where is Jim Bakken?

Where is Carl Birdsong