Kliff is THE DUMBEST coach in the NFL

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He plays a role! For sure. But we know for sure someone isn’t watching tape, and Kliff wasn’t throwing the ball into double and triple(!!) coverage tonight.

Again, Kingsbury is gonna get fired in January 2023. I have zero doubt about it. Who will this team be able to bring in that’s better? I have no idea. But when it happens you’re going to get MUCH different press about Kyler Murray or NOTHING will change.
If we waste another year of Kyler’s rookie contract with Kliffy calling plays - then all hope is lost
 

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He plays a role! For sure. But we know for sure someone isn’t watching tape, and Kliff wasn’t throwing the ball into double and triple(!!) coverage tonight.

Again, Kingsbury is gonna get fired in January 2023. I have zero doubt about it. Who will this team be able to bring in that’s better? I have no idea. But when it happens you’re going to get MUCH different press about Kyler Murray or NOTHING will change.
Nothing matters if Bluto is still making decisions.

Can we finally just move the hell on from any remnants of the Rod Graves Era for ish sake!
 

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It’s hilarious that people think that playcalling is the problem with the offense.
Massive problem. Go check the route trees of the WRs each game vs what elite offenses do in the NFL. There’s other problems for sure but Kliffys play calling is right at the top of the list with oline and DLine
 

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We went 2-7 down the stretch in his first season as well after starting 3-3-1.

If you can’t see the pattern that EVERY YEAR of his coaching career he’s bottomed out once enough tape gets out, specifically on his offense which craters, you’ve got your head in the sand, K9.
Bingo cheese.

As I said the pattern is very alarming & can’t be ignored for that long of a period of time, especially when he’s won nada!!!
 

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This is the crazy thing I can't understand with all the dead horse beating Kyler and kliff are getting. What the h ell are we going to do or expect with this turd and his compadre (Bidwill) still running the show?
In my opinion, Keim's been doing whatever he can to make as much money as possible until he has to get fired. He's saving his job. Most of us would do the same, I think. Outside of the DUI, I don't blame him, and I think he wants to succeed. Personally, the team's finances are a big issue to me. We've been trying to make up for competitive teams for a while, and the idea of getting a rookie QB on the cheap didn't model out like Russell Wilson did for the Seahawks.

I've said for a long time that our front office has been controlled by the same staff, since 1996. Bob Ferguson joined that year, as our VP of Player Personnel, eventually GM, and brought on Rod Graves, who was our next GM, who was connected to Keim... and for nearly 26 years, we haven't had anyone who knew how to organize a team outside of Ferg's structure. It's time to change it.
 

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Massive problem. Go check the route trees of the WRs each game vs what elite offenses do in the NFL. There’s other problems for sure but Kliffys play calling is right at the top of the list with oline and DLine
Please post some links and images to support your point. Kyler threw into triple coverage for Ertz in the end zone. Someone was open.
 

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Two things are correct here:

Kyler is playing like ass and Kliff cant coach.

The fundamental issue is that Kliff was brought to AZ to coach up the offense and the guy under center. Murray has done little to show that he can string along a complete season and much of that falls on Kliff to help him correct the issues

Kliff doesn’t have the right personality and play calling prowess to run a team at this level. Kyler needs to be challenged on what it takes to be successful in the NFL and not in the sandlot.
 

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It's time to change it.
Agreed. But, this will only be a thing when Bidwill can let go and step aside to a certain degree. I've said for years that it seems this guy just loves to meddle. But, if the day comes that he can fire his buddy, then I think their is real opportunity for change.
 

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Wrong. It's Vance Joseph. Nobody else is as dumb as he is. The guy is dropping Zach Allen in coverage and rushing 3 on 3rd and goal. He's having Markus Golden cover wide receivers a handful of times per game and get absolutely burned. Nobody else is this dumb.
 

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It’s literally every year of his coaching career.
Ohhhh I know my step daughter went there so I’ve seen most his games. She just laughed when we hired him lol.

Merry Xmas dude hope your family had a blessed day. I’m pissed but still thankful for life, family etc as we all should be despite all our differences.

Football in the grand scheme of life isn’t all that big of a deal. Been a fan since ‘74 & won’t ever give up on my team
 

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I'm not sure yet. Right now I'm okay with K2..... I can only say that because, if anyone had told me at the beginning of the year that the Cardinals would be 10-5. I would have laughed.
I will reserve judgement on this one. So far the guy does seem to win more games than he did the previous year.
I respect those who believe that with such a great start that the Cards should be better off right now, however, I never imagined that they would have been 7-0..
 

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Cosigned past few weeks have stunk cards wise and so will next prob

Guess ill do green hit to sad day .. az cards wtf!

Welpppp onto dallas ughhh
 

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Please post some links and images to support your point. Kyler threw into triple coverage for Ertz in the end zone. Someone was open.
He’s not wrong if you watch closely. Kylers got to be better, but Kliffs calling different games than earlier in the season just like last year & it’s been going on since about week 10.

1) Basically Zero motion with WRs now, thought limited before.

2) routes are shorter by nearly every receiver

3) very few crossing routes

4) other than Ertz or a RB rarely uses middle of field on route tree

5) watch where every receiver lines up & snap & generally that work that part of the field
 

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https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player-news/10510646
Kliff Kingsbury made the stunning decision to kick a third-down field goal, down by nine points, in the Cardinals' Week 16 loss to the Colts.

Down nine in the fourth quarter, the Cardinals defense forced a three and out from the Colts. They then took over on offense with 4:16 left on the clock. What followed was a masterclass in incompetence. The Cardinals proceeded to bleed the clock, forgoing the chance to kick a quick field goal; instead prioritizing a necessary TD. Then with 46 seconds left, Kingsbury made a generational head-scratcher. On 3rd-and-10 from the 10-yard line, he opted for a 28-yard field goal, deciding that the five seconds it would take to run another play from the 10-yard line were too precious to waste. It was a move that left even casual football fans feeling confident they could outcoach an NFL professional. Unfortunately, the Cardinals did not recover the onside kick, which would have sealed Kingsbury's third-down field goal as a legendary blunder. The Cardinals face the Cowboys in Week 17, and an encore performance is firmly in play.
 

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Kliff is like 0-7 in his last 7 head coaching decisions that have nothing to do with play calling…

- Not kicking earlier vs LA
- Going for it down 10-0 in Detroit
- Kicking down 24-6 in Detroit
- Going for 2
- Challenging the catch tonight
- Not challenging the Wentz spot because of the previous challenge
-Time management/situational decisions down the stretch
 

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Wrong. It's Vance Joseph. Nobody else is as dumb as he is. The guy is dropping Zach Allen in coverage and rushing 3 on 3rd and goal. He's having Markus Golden cover wide receivers a handful of times per game and get absolutely burned. Nobody else is this dumb.
Last Indy TD - 3-man rush on the TD pass. You CAN'T DO THAT in the NFL!!!! Next Cards drive, 4th down - Colts bring 6. Pressure results in incompletion. This isn't rocket surgery. VJ is a MASSIVE part of the problem, but also just one of many. This team seems to have NO HEART.
 

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Kliff is like 0-7 in his last 7 head coaching decisions that have nothing to do with play calling…

- Not kicking earlier vs LA
- Going for it down 10-0 in Detroit
- Kicking down 24-6 in Detroit
- Going for 2
- Challenging the catch tonight
- Not challenging the Wentz spot because of the previous challenge
-Time management/situational decisions down the stretch
Coaching matters.

WHEN, WHERE & at WHAT POINT you make coaching decisions says a lot about your coaching abilities & how successful you are at it! It decides wins & losses for your team.

Imo Kliff has been almost been a complete train wreck at situational football at the NFL level. He definitely doesn’t understand there are consequences for his poor HC gaffes.
 

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