Knicks, Amare discussing buyout.

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I have been adamant about not wanting Amare back, it seems like every 3 or 4 months for the past 3 years a post is made floating the idea of trading for him and it boggles my mind. However, should Amare be bought out the team that signs him for the remainder of the year would likely be paying pittance.

Amare is a complete disaster on defense, and he is a shadow of his former self on offense, but still very efficient on that end in short spells. Our backup options at PF are horrible defensively, horrible on the glass and pretty bad on offense too. We have a huuuuuge discrepancy in success when Markieff is out of the game vs in it, and I think that has every bit to do with how bad our reserves are than his own quality.

Getting Amare would likely solve a lot of our front court rotational issues... or it would completely blow up in our face and cannonball the season. If he gets bought out, I'd roll the dice. A death-knell to the current roster or a strong uptick in its success... either would be a welcome change.
 

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Why not? I'd bring him back. Outside of MK, we have no big men than can score.
 

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I doubt he signs here, he'll probably go to a contender.

I read Clippers and Grizzlies are both interested if he reaches a buyout.
 

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if the training staff could resurrect Dice's knees, maybe they could do the same for Amare.

if he's dirt cheap, I see good reasons for both sides to do this. Amare could use our staff to try and Dice himself back in shape for one last MLE contract and we could use a big body.
 

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if the training staff could resurrect Dice's knees, maybe they could do the same for Amare.

if he's dirt cheap, I see good reasons for both sides to do this. Amare could use our staff to try and Dice himself back in shape for one last MLE contract and we could use a big body.

I don't think Amare cares about money that much anymore. He's made roughly over $200 million in his career I think.

He probably cares more about winning now.
 

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I don't think Amare cares about money that much anymore. He's made roughly over $200 million in his career I think.

He probably cares more about winning now.

Every athlete cares about one last payday. If he can snow people that he's healthy using our med staff to parlay one more deal, I wouldn't be surprised.
 

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Every athlete cares about one last payday. If he can snow people that he's healthy using our med staff to parlay one more deal, I wouldn't be surprised.

He's 32. NBA players tend to become more altruistic as they age because they know the money they've made will last forever. And politicians always tell the full truth.

Seriously though I could see a player like Stat giving up a little salary for a winning environment but I can't see him giving up much. Consistent minutes on a team that will let showcase him is likely to be an even bigger consideration for him, IMO.

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I'm not sure why 95% of this board would even entertain the thought of having him on the team. He does nothing for our rebuild, regardless of how far into it we are. And him being on the team won't produce any more wins, so what's the point?
 

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I'm not sure why 95% of this board would even entertain the thought of having him on the team. He does nothing for our rebuild, regardless of how far into it we are. And him being on the team won't produce any more wins, so what's the point?
Only if we bring back Steve, too.

Four Point Guards and a Forward. Two of them on pogo sticks. :D
 

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if the training staff could resurrect Dice's knees, maybe they could do the same for Amare.

if he's dirt cheap, I see good reasons for both sides to do this. Amare could use our staff to try and Dice himself back in shape for one last MLE contract and we could use a big body.

He underwent the same procedure Kobe did two summers ago. If kept on min restrictions, his knees seem to hold OK. I believe Suns med staff would even do better.
For 25min a game in regular season and 30 min in PO, he should still be among the best off. big men. At least with only 2 years learning it under Dream, his low-post game is already better than Howard's.
 

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I'm not sure why 95% of this board would even entertain the thought of having him on the team. He does nothing for our rebuild, regardless of how far into it we are. And him being on the team won't produce any more wins, so what's the point?

And that would be your opinion.

Considering how we are outscoring our opponents by 9 points with Markieff on the floor and getting outscored by 7 when Markieff is not on the floor I am willing to be that getting another true Power Forward that can score would help us win considerably more games.
 

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I don't know if we could keep Amare on the court but it sure seems like he'd help us win games if we could. I think he'd be a perfect pick and roll partner for Goran too and would give us the backup 4 we sorely need.

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Well said pNr with Goran would be awesome. Amare has that 10-15 jumper that's money. This could also allow Plumlee to thrive again being that active guy under the basket getting put backs or lobs off the pNr.
 

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Amare is one if my all time favorite Suns. I would love to have him back for the last portion if the season. What does it hurt? He still scores 12 a game in limited mins which is all we need him for. You're not taking a financial risk as he's not getting more than the veterans minimum. Health is the issue, but we've seen what the training staff can do with players in his situation. And if he can't stay healthy, who cares?


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I'd much rather see the minutes go to Warren. Yes, I know Warren should be a SF, but with the positions on this team as screwed up as they are, just get him on the floor.
 

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We have too many players already. If we sign Amare, we have to get rid of at least two players.

Is he going to start over Kieff? Do we give him Wright's minutes? So, what does he do for our defense. I am trying to see the benefit here.

Amazingly, I agree with Eric on this one. It would be much better to give Warren minutes.

Amare signs in Cleveland. Bank it.
 

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We have too many players already. If we sign Amare, we have to get rid of at least two players.

Is he going to start over Kieff? Do we give him Wright's minutes? So, what does he do for our defense. I am trying to see the benefit here.

Amazingly, I agree with Eric on this one. It would be much better to give Warren minutes.

Amare signs in Cleveland. Bank it.

We need help at the backup 4 and 5 spots. Signing Amare to back up Keef and letting Wright spend most of his time at the backup 5 spot should help quite a bit. We do need to get Warren some playing time but I'm not sure that shoving him into the 4 spot is the way to go. Trade IT and Tucker; sign Amare and let Warren, Archie and Ennis get some court time.

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We have too many players already. If we sign Amare, we have to get rid of at least two players.

Is he going to start over Kieff? Do we give him Wright's minutes? So, what does he do for our defense. I am trying to see the benefit here.

Amazingly, I agree with Eric on this one. It would be much better to give Warren minutes.

Amare signs in Cleveland. Bank it.

Every rumor I've read thus far has Amare going to Dallas.
 

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I'm not sure why 95% of this board would even entertain the thought of having him on the team. He does nothing for our rebuild, regardless of how far into it we are. And him being on the team won't produce any more wins, so what's the point?

This. What is the point? It's not like Amare puts us over the top and he is a HUGE defensive liability. I could see this making sense if he was the last piece we needed but he simply isn't.

Let the minutes go to one of the young guys. Amare's time with the Suns was over.....let it stay over.
 

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I'd much rather see the minutes go to Warren. Yes, I know Warren should be a SF, but with the positions on this team as screwed up as they are, just get him on the floor.

Totally agree, would like to see Warren get more playing time.
 

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Yes, I know Warren should be a SF, but with the positions on this team as screwed up as they are, just get him on the floor.
I, too, would like to see him get regular playing time. But is starting him out by playing out of position the way to do it?

Un-screwing up the roster should be part of the plan to integrate our young talent.
 

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if the training staff could resurrect Dice's knees, maybe they could do the same for Amare.

I believe the reason we let him go was on the advice of the training staff suggesting that his knees would be something they couldn't help.
 

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I believe the reason we let him go was on the advice of the training staff suggesting that his knees would be something they couldn't help.

That's what I recall as well. They said it was not if but when his knees gave out which was considered "high" in terms of risk. Not sure their evaluation would change now right?
 

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They said it was not if but when his knees gave out which was considered "high" in terms of risk. Not sure their evaluation would change now right?

I'd expect their evaluation to be the same, but the difference is that the Suns would be paying Stoudemire the minimum, not $20+ million per year.
 
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