Kolb Deal Could Take A Day Or Two

[Shane]

you make a huge assumption that the trade is a done deal. the idea that there's no need to rush makes zero sense to me. what if they can't strike a deal with Kolb and then in 48 hours, there's literally NO ONE left at QB?

Im not assuming anything. There may not even be an agreement. But if there is I dont see the hurry with the contract. Get it right. If Kolb is truly who they want a deal will get. We certainly know Kolb doesnt want to play 2nd fiddle in Philly.

 

[SunsTzu]

Roll the dice with Skelton and pick up a veteran to back him up. Get the QBOF next offseason.

This is how I feel too, especially how strong the next QB draft class supposedly is, unfortunately I think the Cards are desperate and will act accordingly.

 

[conraddobler]

I'd rather do a Bulger and Skelton combo, then use LF to trade up and get Luck myself but that's just me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'd rather do a Bulger and Skelton combo, then use LF to trade up and get Luck myself but that's just me.

LF has a no trade clause in his contract (along with a no franchise tag clause). jesus... how does Rod Graves have a job?

 

[Shane]

LF has a no trade clause in his contract (along with a no franchise tag clause). jesus... how does Rod Graves have a job?

He may not in his next contract though

Which IMO should be reworked NOW!

 

[JeffGollin]

I'd rather do a Bulger and Skelton combo, then use LF to trade up and get Luck myself but that's just me.

Bulger was already quoted a week or 2 ago as saying he had no interest in the Cardinals

 

[conraddobler]

LF has a no trade clause in his contract (along with a no franchise tag clause). jesus... how does Rod Graves have a job?

It's not what you know but who you know?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

LF has a no trade clause in his contract (along with a no franchise tag clause). jesus... how does Rod Graves have a job?

Yep, right now we're being held hostage by the Fitz situation, and the Eagles know it. I have no doubt we're going to trade for Kolb, and we're going to give up way too much.

Schaub should be the absolute ceiling for the trade, (2 2nd rounders) and we're going to give up significantly more than that for a player who has, at best a Schaub ceiling. Disgusting.

 

[conraddobler]

Bulger was already quoted a week or 2 ago as saying he had no interest in the Cardinals

I'd be fine with losing out with Skelton and as far as LF goes it could be done, if you send him to the right team for picks then you can send those picks to the team with the first draft choice.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'd be fine with losing out with Skelton and as far as LF goes it could be done, if you send him to the right team for picks then you can send those picks to the team with the first draft choice.

no one's going to trade the rights for the next Peyton Manning. if we really end up with Bulger, we should just trade Larry THIS pre-season to ensure we don't win a game and end up with Luck. that's the only way we get that first pick.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

no one's going to trade the rights for the next Peyton Manning. if we really end up with Bulger, we should just trade Larry THIS pre-season to ensure we don't win a game and end up with Luck. that's the only way we get that first pick.

I like it. Just come out and say that's the plan. We're trying for 0-16 to get Andrew Luck. New marketing campaign 0-16, we need to change our Luck.

 

[kerouac9]

I know the coaches wont say it, the guys who cover the Cards for a living and respect Fitz wont say it, but I have a strong feeling that we can not under estimate the power Fitz has in this decision.

Remember when Fitz said in a recent interview concerning a question about an extension, he something to the effect "we will see just how much they appreciate me" or something to that effect. He could have been talking about Kolb.

Fitz is the face of the franchise, and for good reason, great player who is also a great dude. Just to show how much power or how big of a voice he might have, he asked and got permission from the Cardinals to bring his offseason coach Jerry Sullivan with him to Flagstaff. The Cards are literally letting Fitz bring his OWN coach to camp even though we already have a WR coach.

I am probably way off base and I readily admit that, but it is a strong feeling that I have none the less.

Joe is going crazy with good stuff on this thread. Thanks, Joe.

The bolded portion of this is absolutely stunning. It's not the inmates running the asylum, but good luck establishing your authority with your squad, WR coach.

 

[Mulli]

Joe is going crazy with good stuff on this thread. Thanks, Joe.

The bolded portion of this is absolutely stunning. It's not the inmates running the asylum, but good luck establishing your authority with your squad, WR coach.

All good. Fitz and some guys is the squad anyway.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Per Shefter Tweet "look for Kolb to be traded to Cardinals for DRC + pick by the end of the week."

 

[Chopper0080]

Most people would be more content to watch this play out if the Cardinals were doing something else to bolster the roster. It seems like the entire Cardinals "aggressive" offseason plan is being held up by an inability to close a deal for Kolb. Honestly if they believe so much in Kolb that DRC and a 2nd are in the mix, make the deal even if it is a first. Fans won't like it but as an organization you have to make the deal that you want and move on. As the Cardinals stand stagnant other teams are identifying players, making offers, and closing deals.

Make fun of the Seahawks all you want, but they have acquired two young QB's in the past 2 years, have revamped their entire o line with Okung, Unger, drafted James Carpenter and John Moffitt this year, and now have signed Robert Gallary. They traded for Lynch and are in hot pursuit of Sindey Rice. They are executing a plan. We aren't.

Mark it down, we will get to the end of the offseason and our underwhelming roster will be blamed on a free agent market that was different than expected, and due to our trade taking time, some of the pieces we were targeting were gone.

It is not all gloom and doom, it just seems that the Eagles are dictating our offseason progress. Sign Sendlein, address an o-line in shambles, add an impactful defensive starter, get a true number 2 wide receiver or even sign our draft picks. But do something other than resigning our P, signing a blocking TE, and trying work out a deal for a QB with a team that is in no hurry.

God our o-line pisses me off. Current players Brandon Keith, Levi Brown, Rex Hadnot, Jeremy Bridges and D'Anthony Batiste and ??? Are you kidding me? Why even trade for a QB if this is what we are going to be working with?

 

[Stout]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be fine with shipping DRC to the Eagles. I do not at all like the idea of weakening a 'perceived' position of strength to add a QB, but the key word there is 'perceived'. If we do trade DRC, I think it is because Horton watched all of the tape, talked to the other coaches, and said that DRC isn't going to work in his system. That being the case, he would be a throw-away player, and it wouldn't be a big deal to use him as trade bait.

Of course, that is assuming we aren't stupid enough to get rid of a player Horton would want to keep. I know, such an assumption is dangerous with the Cards and the human snail, but I have to keep my sanity by making a few positive assumptions, right?

 

[Mulli]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be fine with shipping DRC to the Eagles. I do not at all like the idea of weakening a 'perceived' position of strength to add a QB, but the key word there is 'perceived'. If we do trade DRC, I think it is because Horton watched all of the tape, talked to the other coaches, and said that DRC isn't going to work in his system. That being the case, he would be a throw-away player, and it wouldn't be a big deal to use him as trade bait.

Of course, that is assuming we aren't stupid enough to get rid of a player Horton would want to keep. I know, such an assumption is dangerous with the Cards and the human snail, but I have to keep my sanity by making a few positive assumptions, right?

Is this darksider Stout liking this, or a kinder gentler? If it is the darksider, I am encouraged.

 

[daves]

Whisenhunt responded, "I don't have an option like that that I'm facing right now so it's kinda hard for me to answer that question. That's all been speculation. I haven't said anything like that or even talked about that. So I don't know where that came from. It did not come from us. So that's not even been a thought in my mind."

[....]

If the Cardinals were to end up trading DRC for Kolb, his statement that parting with DRC is not even an option that he's facing and not even a thought in his mind could only be interpreted as a bald-faced lie.

No. It can simply be interpreted that DRC, as part of a deal, has not been discussed or contemplated AT THIS POINT!

Yes of course, theoretically it is possible that despite several weeks of rumors and talk about DRC being traded for Kolb, and despite that it's Whisenhunt's job to play a key role in the acquisition of a QB, somehow up to the moment yesterday when a reporter asked him about it, the thought had NEVER entered Whisenhunt's mind.

But perhaps today or tomorrow, by sheer coincidence, in a bizarre case of truth paralleling fiction, Whis will be approached with the idea of trading DRC for Kolb, and he will then for the first time ever contemplate the idea, before the Cardinals proceed with the trade. Yep, that IS possible. Thanks for pointing out that flaw in my logic!

...dave

 

[Stout]

Is this darksider Stout liking this, or a kinder gentler? If it is the darksider, I am encouraged.

I simply cannot exist as a Cardinals fan without a bit of darksider on the corner of my soul

 

[Dayman]

According to Clark Judge, the Eagles are holding up the trade until they find a #2 QB. This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15361222/kolbtocards-still-on-target-but-eagles-being-cautious

But nobody has signed off on it. Not yet. And here's why: Philadelphia must be convinced it has itself covered at the backup quarterback spot before it does anything with Kolb. That means signing an unrestricted free agent, trading for an experienced veteran or at least getting warm on somebody.


Until or unless that happens, the Eagles don't move.

 

[Cheesebeef]

According to Clark Judge, the Eagles are holding up the trade until they find a #2 QB. This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15361222/kolbtocards-still-on-target-but-eagles-being-cautious

**** them. move on to Orton.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be fine with shipping DRC to the Eagles. I do not at all like the idea of weakening a 'perceived' position of strength to add a QB, but the key word there is 'perceived'. If we do trade DRC, I think it is because Horton watched all of the tape, talked to the other coaches, and said that DRC isn't going to work in his system. That being the case, he would be a throw-away player, and it wouldn't be a big deal to use him as trade bait.

Of course, that is assuming we aren't stupid enough to get rid of a player Horton would want to keep. I know, such an assumption is dangerous with the Cards and the human snail, but I have to keep my sanity by making a few positive assumptions, right?

What Stout said.

 

[conraddobler]

According to Clark Judge, the Eagles are holding up the trade until they find a #2 QB. This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15361222/kolbtocards-still-on-target-but-eagles-being-cautious

Our Front Office is the modern day equivalent of the keystone cops.

The Eagles are just toying with them now like a cat plays with a mouse.

Just give them the freaking keys to our draft room and bend over Rod, OMG the powers of suckitude are strong in this one.

 

[Zeno]

According to Clark Judge, the Eagles are holding up the trade until they find a #2 QB. This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15361222/kolbtocards-still-on-target-but-eagles-being-cautious

I hear a former starting QB named Derek Anderson is available...or we can throw in Max Hall.

Max Hall, DRC & a 3rd round pick for Kolb.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Our Front Office is the modern day equivalent of the keystone cops.

The Eagles are just toying with them now like a cat plays with a mouse.

Just give them the freaking keys to our draft room and bend over Rod, OMG the powers of suckitude are strong in this one.

Yep...