Kyle Orton ? I hope so!!

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It would be a good trade if the Cardinals are aggressive and fill some holes through free-agency for once. That would allow them to trade away a high 2nd round pick and not worry about it. I believe it's the route they should take.

The way in which the Cards handle this off-season will go a long way in determining whether or not these are the same ol Cardinals or not.
 

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That's substantial difference, especially considering Orton has thrown about 500 more passes than Anderson. It's nowhere near ideal, but you know you're not getting an All-Pro in Orton. You are getting someone who's probably among the Top 15 at his position.
And Orton has just one more season above 60% than Derek Anderson or Mulli has.
 

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Thanks for picture, I needed a refresher. Just say no unless he is really cheap.
 

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Kyle Orton career completion percentage: 58.1%
Derek Anderson career completion percentage: 52.6%

Dan Marino 59.4 %
John Elway 56.9 %
 
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Are the Broncos really dumb enough to trade a guy who threw for almost 4000 yards in just 13 games with 20 TDs to only 9 INTs last season for a 2nd round draft pick?

Next you guys will be saying some NFL team will let their former #10 pick in the draft QB go for nothing.
 

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IMO Orton is the no brainer pick available. We cannot afford to make the wrong move and Orton is the most proven least used up player for the right price.

Offer our 3rd and 5th this year and demand an extension.

Do it and focus on the OLINE and D.
 

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Whis' offense and McDaniels offense are not that different. Also Orton has shown the ability to assimilate quickly when changing teams.

I like the skills that Gabbert brings, but #5 isn't the spot, and the Cardinals are not in the position to support his development.

???

What does this mean?

Gabbert is the top rated QB in the draft and a likely top 10 pick. If we don't take him at #5, the Niners, Titans or Redskins, will thank us very much. And we have a QB Coach, so I frankly don't understand what this reference to development means.
 

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IMO Orton is the no brainer pick available. We cannot afford to make the wrong move and Orton is the most proven least used up player for the right price.

Offer our 3rd and 5th this year and demand an extension.

Do it and focus on the OLINE and D.

What Beerz said.
 

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It would be a good trade if the Cardinals are aggressive and fill some holes through free-agency for once. That would allow them to trade away a high 2nd round pick and not worry about it. I believe it's the route they should take.

The way in which the Cards handle this off-season will go a long way in determining whether or not these are the same ol Cardinals or not.

Agreed.

An offseason of:

QB Kyle Orton
OLB Kamerion Wimbley
LT Matt Light
ILB David Harris
#5 overall Robert Quinn

That would pretty much put us right back near first place in the NFC West, if not cement it. A high 2nd round pick for a solid starting QB is not that steep of a price, especially one who has proven that he can carry an offense if given the weapons.
 

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???

What does this mean?

Gabbert is the top rated QB in the draft and a likely top 10 pick. If we don't take him at #5, the Niners, Titans or Redskins, will thank us very much. And we have a QB Coach, so I frankly don't understand what this reference to development means.

You are taking a very raw college QB, paying him millions, and expecting him to contribute in an offseason where he may not be able to start studying a playbook until July, and your coaches job is on the line. What part of the Cardinals situation supports drafting a QB with a pick before the 4th round? Lest I remind you of the last time we drafted a QB, and then fired the head coach only to replace him with someone who didn't love the highly drafted QB on the roster.
 
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Agreed.

An offseason of:

QB Kyle Orton
OLB Kamerion Wimbley
LT Matt Light
ILB David Harris
#5 overall Robert Quinn

That would pretty much put us right back near first place in the NFC West, if not cement it. A high 2nd round pick for a solid starting QB is not that steep of a price, especially one who has proven that he can carry an offense if given the weapons.

If given the weapons!!! I couldn't agree more and with Fitz and hopefully with Breaston (signed) we definitely have a very good shot to win this division.

Along with a good draft and FA pickups (fingers crossed) we can be back to where we belong. 2011 NFC West Champions
 

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If given the weapons!!! I couldn't agree more and with Fitz and hopefully with Breaston (signed) we definitely have a very good shot to win this division.

Along with a good draft and FA pickups (fingers crossed) we can be back to where we belong. 2011 NFC West Champions

Too many of the above posts make sense.
 

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Orton is a better target than Kolb. Kolb has proven squat and the Eagles want 2 firsts for him? Orton is at least a middle of the pack starting NFL QB. He might not be elite, but we aren't going to get another elite QB unless we draft one. And we still can if we get Orton.
 

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You are taking a very raw college QB, paying him millions, and expecting him to contribute in an offseason where he may not be able to start studying a playbook until July, and your coaches job is on the line. What part of the Cardinals situation supports drafting a QB with a pick before the 4th round? Lest I remind you of the last time we drafted a QB, and then fired the head coach only to replace him with someone who didn't love the highly drafted QB on the roster.
If they draft Gabbert, or any QB, I don't think the Cards plan on him contributing next year no matter what. I also don't think they'll take a QB at 5 because they can win the division next year with decent QB play.
 

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You are taking a very raw college QB, paying him millions, and expecting him to contribute in an offseason where he may not be able to start studying a playbook until July, and your coaches job is on the line. What part of the Cardinals situation supports drafting a QB with a pick before the 4th round? Lest I remind you of the last time we drafted a QB, and then fired the head coach only to replace him with someone who didn't love the highly drafted QB on the roster.

I, for one, don't expect any draft pick to contribute greatly in his first year, and see the #5 pick as, hopefully, a productive investment in the team's long term future.

What happened in Cardinal land in the past is largely irrelevant to the present and future.

An "arms race" was launched in the NFC West with the drafting of Bradford, and it's likely that a new regime in SF will be looking for a QBOF in this draft, and it's not inconceivable that Seattle could dip into the QB pool too.

There are four QB's in this year's draft who have Scout Inc ratings higher than Josh Freeman in his draft year. (Gabbert, Locker, Newton, Mallett).

I'll leave it to the pre-draft period of assessment to see whether these general ratings are maintained. If they do, I'm in favour of a QB at #5, as the distinction between picking a QB at #5, #7, #9, #11, etc. is distinction largely without difference beyond the monetary.

At this point we are picking and paying #5 money, no matter what. A slight premium for a QB is hardly a reason to back away from the choice, if the team's evaluation is that QB (A, B, C, B) is an elite prospect.

Lest I remind you: Eight of the twelve QB's in this year's playoffs were first round picks, and all four going into Championship weekend were selected in the first round.
 

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There are four QB's in this year's draft who have Scout Inc ratings higher than Josh Freeman in his draft year. (Gabbert, Locker, Newton, Mallett).

I'll leave it to the pre-draft period of assessment to see whether these general ratings are maintained. If they do, I'm in favour of a QB at #5, as the distinction between picking a QB at #5, #7, #9, #11, etc. is distinction largely without difference beyond the monetary.

At this point we are picking and paying #5 money, no matter what. A slight premium for a QB is hardly a reason to back away from the choice, if the team's evaluation is that QB (A, B, C, B) is an elite prospect.

Lest I remind you: Eight of the twelve QB's in this year's playoffs were first round picks, and all four going into Championship weekend were selected in the first round.

Despite rating, it's allways a crap shoot. IF your highest rated falls to you where you pick, sure pull the trigger. If he doesn't not so sure.

Despite the ratings of the so called top 4, I'd be willing to wager two wind up busts, or at minimum not nearly the career that Freeman will have.
 

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Despite rating, it's allways a crap shoot. IF your highest rated falls to you where you pick, sure pull the trigger. If he doesn't not so sure.

Despite the ratings of the so called top 4, I'd be willing to wager two wind up busts, or at minimum not nearly the career that Freeman will have.

I agree it is an "educated" crap shoot, and not all four QB's in the top of this year's draft class will be superior to Freeman. No way of knowing, and only time will tell.

At this point, there are 4 players with a 97 Scout Inc. rating and 4 with 96 - including Gabbert.

I only offer these as a bit of insight into the initial views of these players.

But, in the case of QB's, unless they are strongly confirmed by the offseason workouts, etc... I'm certainly not married to a QB, no matter what, approach.

I'll be digesting all professional assessments in the months to come, and paying particular attention to Mike Mayoch on the NFL Network.
 
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I agree it is an "educated" crap shoot, and not all four QB's in the top of this year's draft class will be superior to Freeman. No way of knowing, and only time will tell.

At this point, there are 4 players with a 97 Scout Inc. rating and 6, or so, with 96 - including Gabbert.

I only offer these as a bit of insight into the initial views of these players.

But, in the case of QB's, unless they are strongly confirmed by the offseason workouts, etc... I'm certainly not married to a QB, no matter what, approach.

I'll be digesting all professional assessments in the months to come, and paying particular attention to Mike Mayoch on the NFL Network.

:yeahthat:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you and I are in the exact same corner.
 

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