Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

[602 Native]

The offensive talent is fine. It’s up to Kyler to maximize that talent. He’s not doing anything to make anyone better.

Another unserious post

 

[DVontel]

with Jefferson missing games

Lmao you just flat out lied

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don’t know. But Sam Darnold and the Vikings are 5-0 with Jefferson missing games. Sam Darnold!
Without looking, Who is Josh Allen’s #1? How about MaHomes? It isn’t Kelce anymore. He lost Rice and all of a sudden Scantling, SCANTLING, goes crazy.

Who’s Lamar Jackson’s number 1?

 

[602 Native]

Back to Darnold. Addison was out for part of the season as was Jefferson. Hockenson hadn’t played so I don’t understand how you can even mention him.
Talk about unserious. Are you telling me you wouldn’t take Josh Allen over Kyler right now? I’d like to start a poll on that.

Please do. The TE is the only player I would not take over our guys.

 

[602 Native]

Who’s Lamar Jackson’s number 1?

Zay Flowers and he’s awesome!

 

[slanidrac16]

Lmao you just flat out lied

My bad. He was coming off injuries.

 

[slanidrac16]

Please do. The TE is the only player I would not take over our guys.

You statement doesn’t address the question about Josh Allen.

 

[602 Native]

You statement doesn’t address the question about Josh Allen.

Allen is a good QB don’t know if he would be any better than K1 on this team.

 

[ajcardfan]

You statement doesn’t address the question about Josh Allen.

His WRs are not really better. I believe Shakir is right around MHJ in stats. But, Buffalo's defense is a lot better.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would settle for an average team around K1. We have only seen that for a limited time with him at the helm.

Agree with this. I think the offense was close before the injuries to the OL. The defense is just so bad that it offers very little margin for error.

 

[slanidrac16]

Allen is a good QB don’t know if he would be any better than K1 on this team.

Got it. Thank you for clarifying,
But I disagree. Why? Because he can run AND he can throw from the pocket way better than Kyler.

 

[kerouac9]

He is never going to be Mahomes or Allen

Part of this is expectations management after idiot Paul Calvisi put Kyler on MVP watch in his second season because Mahomes and Lamar had just done it.

It just sucks to see Kyler surpassed by lesser talents like Purdy, Stroud, Burrow, and Love. Maybe the teams around them are better (Green Bay’s offense is still developing), but you’d expect Kyler to be starting to play his best football.

We’re debating whether he’s as good as Kirk Cousins.

 

[slanidrac16]

Part of this is expectations management after idiot Paul Calvisi put Kyler on MVP watch in his second season because Mahomes and Lamar had just done it.

It just sucks to see Kyler surpassed by lesser talents like Purdy, Stroud, Burrow, and Love. Maybe the teams around them are better (Green Bay’s offense is still developing), but you’d expect Kyler to be starting to play his best football.

We’re debating whether he’s as good as Kirk Cousins.

Exactly.

 

[Dayman]

You statement doesn’t address the question about Josh Allen.

Josh Allen is averaging fewer ypg than Kyler and has a lower completion percentage than Kyler by over 8 percentage points this year. Allen is still an amazing QB, but he has also suffered from a lack of receiving options. Every QB does. Even Mahomes is having the worst year of his career without reliable receivers, and he still has arguably the best pass catching TE of all-time out there with him.

By no means am I saying Kyler is a better QB than either of those guys, but downplaying the need for solid receiving options for good QBs is just irrational.

 

[slanidrac16]

Josh Allen is averaging fewer ypg than Kyler and has a lower completion percentage than Kyler by over 8 percentage points this year. Allen is still an amazing QB, but he has also suffered from a lack of receiving options. Every QB does. Even Mahomes is having the worst year of his career without reliable receivers, and he still has arguably the best pass catching TE of all-time out there with him.

By no means am I saying Kyler is a better QB than either of those guys, but downplaying the need for solid receiving options for good QBs is just irrational.

We can get lost in stats all day. However some might say you still need to get the ball to those receivers. I don’t believe Kyler is very good from the pocket.
Even this year his biggest plays have been unscripted off a scramble.

 

[DVontel]

Josh Allen is averaging fewer ypg than Kyler and has a lower completion percentage than Kyler by over 8 percentage points this year. Allen is still an amazing QB, but he has also suffered from a lack of receiving options. Every QB does. Even Mahomes is having the worst year of his career without reliable receivers, and he still has arguably the best pass catching TE of all-time out there with him.

By no means am I saying Kyler is a better QB than either of those guys, but downplaying the need for solid receiving options for good QBs is just irrational.

This is what is so frustrating about this team. Mahomes is playing mediocre for overall standards, not even just Mahomes standards. Doesn’t even matter because their defense is awesome. I badly want that.

This is not even taking away from Mahomes because he’s still the best QB in the league & a top 2 QB of all time to me, but man it’s so infuriating.

 

[602 Native]

Josh Allen is averaging fewer ypg than Kyler and has a lower completion percentage than Kyler by over 8 percentage points this year. Allen is still an amazing QB, but he has also suffered from a lack of receiving options. Every QB does. Even Mahomes is having the worst year of his career without reliable receivers, and he still has arguably the best pass catching TE of all-time out there with him.

By no means am I saying Kyler is a better QB than either of those guys, but downplaying the need for solid receiving options for good QBs is just irrational.

You are speaking too much reason.

 

[602 Native]

We can get lost in stats all day. However some might say you still need to get the ball to those receivers. I don’t believe Kyler is very good from the pocket.
Even this year his biggest plays have been unscripted off a scramble.

Give K1 the Chiefs oline

 

[slanidrac16]

Give K1 the Chiefs oline

Well they just benched their rookie left tackle perhaps leading to MaHomes “ slow” start.
Mahomes is ridiculous. His ability to raise his teammates and the offense to the level needed to win is astonishing.
He is capable of doing more with less than any qb in the league.

 

[TJ]

Another unserious post

You’re being unserious if you think that Kyler is doing enough to make this offense look respectable. Being the 15th-20th best QB in the NFL isn’t winning much in this league

 

[602 Native]

You’re being unserious if you think that Kyler is doing enough to make this offense look respectable. Being the 15th-20th best QB in the NFL isn’t winning much in this league

It’s the Cards when have we ever won much?

 

[TJ]

It’s the Cards when have we ever won much?

When we had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer. QBs who knew how to win and maximize talent

 

[Chris_Sanders]

it’s been two years since Kyler has had a 300 yard passing game. We need to accept that he’s not a good QB and hope that we can dupe some team into giving us something of value

This is the appreciation thread. Only warning

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Seriously there are several Murray threads to discuss your dislike and inadequacy. Bans will come forward

 

[602 Native]

When we had Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer. QBs who knew how to win and maximize talent

The year we went to the Super Bowl we won 9 games.

Bruce Arians was ran out of town and won a Super Bowl.

We re a terrible franchise and history proves that.