Kyler Murray Film Analysis (Best QB In The Draft)

[Cardinal]

That's one take..I get that.For people to act like he always wanted to be a NFL QB and baseball was nothing serious is nonsense.Money talked and Murray listened.

We've known since his high school days that he loved football more. If he really was serious about baseball then he would've been drafted high as a senior in high school. That's how elite of a baseball prospect he was. He wanted to try football at A&M, so he didn't enter the MLB draft.

In 2018, he gets drafted by the A's in the 1st round. He wanted to try football one more year, so he took another year off from his baseball development in the minors. His actions speak a lot louder than his words. He's a football player first.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I'm a pro Rosen guy but there is something you pro Murray guys have not brought up to my knowledge concerning his size. You tell me how your average NFL player is going to be able to tackle him without risking a penalty. Murray is tiny and can turn on a dime and still give you change. How are you going to be able to tackle him with any resemblance of a proper form tackle without hitting him too high or low is the question. Now it only takes one hit for Murray to start contemplating baseball but how do you tackle this jitterbug once you are even able to spot him among the mass of lineman. Murray could turn the QB protection rules into a farce because a scrambling QB right now already has an advantage

 

[Solar7]

Proxy can make it look like you are logging in from anywhere. I could easily make it look like I am logging in from anywhere. Then you post your proof.

Of course even "The proof" is that someone is trying to access your Instagram and only your Instagram account.

With the express purpose of only deleting a select time frame of photos.

It's ludicrous and no one is buying it.

As someone who works in the industry, I'm buying it. People of varying fame are hacked or attempted to be hacked all the time. There are many reasons. A lot of times it's just for the sake of messing with someone, too.

 

[Cardinal]

I'm a pro Rosen guy but there is something you pro Murray guys have not brought up to my knowledge concerning his size. You tell me how your average NFL player is going to be able to tackle him without risking a penalty. Murray is tiny and can turn on a dime and still give you change. How are you going to be able to tackle him with any resemblance of a proper form tackle without hitting him too high or low is the question. Now it only takes one hit for Murray to start contemplating baseball but how do you tackle this jitterbug once you are even able to spot him among the mass of lineman. Murray could turn the QB protection rules into a farce because a scrambling QB right now already has an advantage

I mentioned that about two weeks ago in the Kyler Murray heisman trophy acceptance speech thread when somebody posted the OU vs Alabama game. Q Williams laid a hit on Murray that would've easily been a penalty in the NFL (should've been one in college too). Murray's frame might make it hard to get a clean and/or legal hit on him.

 

[TheCardFan]

And...it keeps coming.

New article today from PFF.

Why Kyler Murray is the top player on the PFF 2019 NFL Draft Board

https://www.profootballfocus.com/ne...rray-is-the-top-player-on-the-pff-draft-board

 

[cardncubfan]

The baseball red flag is nonsense. Murray was the 9th overall (!) pick in the MLB draft. This is huge compared to the 37th or 41st round where Mahomes and Russell Wilson were drafted.

When Murray was made a top 10 MLB pick he didn't know - and certainly couldn't expect - to be an early round NFL draft prospect. Let alone a 1st round lock. Six months ago Murray was realistically nothing more than a late round flyer in the NFL draft, most likely as a converted RB or WR. That's what lots of pundits kept saying just a few months ago, right in the middle of his record breaking season.

Murray has been a QB his whole life. It just happened that he was great at baseball as well. There is no doubt that being a NFL franchise QB was his dream growing up. Actually there is some prove out there.

It's just tough when things don't work out for these young athletes initially. In most cases they never work out. Murray didn't get a shot with the Aggies, yet he followed his dream of playing QB, knowing that established NFL circles are harsh on small QBs. Then he got the chance to sign a multi million baseball contract. What would you do?

How is this nonsense? He can have a longer career & not worry about not remembering family members when he retires because of too many concussions. Baseball player don't end up like Junior Seau. QB's do.

 

[Krangodnzr]

CeeDee Lamb might be the best WR to come out of Oklahoma...can't wait for him to be eligible.

He's good.

 

[Krangodnzr]

How is this nonsense? He can have a longer career & not worry about not remembering family members when he retires because of too many concussions. Baseball player don't end up like Junior Seau. QB's do.

He is a football guy.

Also it's much harder to make it in baseball, you have to play through the minors and it usually takes years to get to the majors.

If Murray is #1 overall, he get $10 million per year or so right off the bat.

Going baseball would be the stupid move.

 

[Buckybird]

How is this nonsense? He can have a longer career & not worry about not remembering family members when he retires because of too many concussions. Baseball player don't end up like Junior Seau. QB's do.

Weak.

Football players know the risk & yet the majority of them say they would still play the NFL game afterwards

 

[TheCardFan]

Why Kyler Murray is the top player on the PFF 2019 NFL Draft Board


As we continue to dig into the PFF data, one of the most important aspects to determine a quarterback’s viability at the next level is his ability to hit open throws. While it sounds easy, and often used as a negative when evaluating college players with QB-friendly offenses, hitting open throws is the biggest separator between the best and worst quarterbacks at the next level. Like Mayfield, Murray shines in this area, taking advantage of the many open throws afforded him by the Oklahoma offense.

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When we push the boundaries to 20-plus yards throws, Murray still sits atop the list at 61.6%, significantly higher than any other quarterback in the draft class other than Eric Dungey.

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Mayfield’s final college season was by far the best, he exceeded his expected rate of accurate throws (pass located on the receiver’s frame or perfectly in-stride) by 9% (first) and made uncatchable throws 5% less often than math would expect on his subset of throws (first). Murray ranked just behind him in each facet (second, 6% above, and sixth, 2% below, respectively, of 20 quarterbacks during their last college seasons). The only other quarterback season to rank in the top six in each area was Patrick Mahomes in 2016. As a thrower, Murray is second only to Mayfield and he falls into the same tier of quarterback play using our college quarterback clustering. Murray is Cluster 1, and there are very few players that are not Cluster 1 that end up as even serviceable NFL quarterbacks.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Why Kyler Murray is the top player on the PFF 2019 NFL Draft Board


As we continue to dig into the PFF data, one of the most important aspects to determine a quarterback’s viability at the next level is his ability to hit open throws. While it sounds easy, and often used as a negative when evaluating college players with QB-friendly offenses, hitting open throws is the biggest separator between the best and worst quarterbacks at the next level. Like Mayfield, Murray shines in this area, taking advantage of the many open throws afforded him by the Oklahoma offense.

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When we push the boundaries to 20-plus yards throws, Murray still sits atop the list at 61.6%, significantly higher than any other quarterback in the draft class other than Eric Dungey.

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Mayfield’s final college season was by far the best, he exceeded his expected rate of accurate throws (pass located on the receiver’s frame or perfectly in-stride) by 9% (first) and made uncatchable throws 5% less often than math would expect on his subset of throws (first). Murray ranked just behind him in each facet (second, 6% above, and sixth, 2% below, respectively, of 20 quarterbacks during their last college seasons). The only other quarterback season to rank in the top six in each area was Patrick Mahomes in 2016. As a thrower, Murray is second only to Mayfield and he falls into the same tier of quarterback play using our college quarterback clustering. Murray is Cluster 1, and there are very few players that are not Cluster 1 that end up as even serviceable NFL quarterbacks.

The reason Murray has more upside is because he can run a lot better than Mayfield. His arm is about on par, but his feet are vastly better.

Murray is going to have to have a spy most of the time. Would you leave a Mike to spy on him? I wouldnt....I'd leave a corner. That now makes the defense more susceptible to being run on since it will be tough to rely on LBs to watch Murray.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Expecting the same career from Murray is betting a long shot.That's the part the Murrayites fail to consider.Thinking
Murray will be another short QB to succeed when many other QB fail.Bucking the odds is foolish when safer good options are available and you already have a potentially good QB on your roster.

Why is his height the only characteristic you’re willing to consider? Why not his speed, arm strength, accuracy, completion percentage, touchdowns, picks, performances against quality opponents, etc?

 

[slanidrac16]

Lol. You gotta love this stuff . Everything from them midget to the messiah!

 

[BW52]

Why is his height the only characteristic you’re willing to consider? Why not his speed, arm strength, accuracy, completion percentage, touchdowns, picks, performances against quality opponents, etc?

He isn`t getting taller,His speed will be against NFl talent,not college guys,His passing windows will be smaller,every team he plays will be more like Alabama instead of Rice or ArkansasSt .Those are things I consider when I think about Murray.You Murray fans simply gloss over every concern and I refuse to do that.