Kyler Murray No-Shows at Draft Charity Event

dscher

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Posts
13,265
Reaction score
8,315
Location
Mesa, AZ
I know Dan Bickley was personally po'd! Bickley made it sound like he was one of the few at the station that wanted Murray. When Bickley heard about the charity no show, he was pissed on the air. Bickley did not like that at all! LOL.
I usually like Bickley..but he knows what we know. Not enough. Imo

This is turning into such a side show...man. I think we could gives daytime soaps a run for their money.. haha
 

moklerman

Rise from the Ashes III
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Posts
5,318
Reaction score
810
Location
Bakersfield, CA
So, he either committed to the event and chose not to show or chose not to commit to a charity event for kids.

Means absolutely nothing in terms of how he'll play football but if one actually cares about the players they're rooting for...not a good sign. On it's own, especially considering the circumstances maybe it should be ignored. If it's one more thing added to a list, though?

I value character so this doesn't endear me to KM as the #1 overall pick, leader and face of the franchise. It isn't character over all else but it matters.
 

PJ1

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 21, 2002
Posts
12,169
Reaction score
5,246
Location
Nashville TN.
So, he either committed to the event and chose not to show or chose not to commit to a charity event for kids.

Means absolutely nothing in terms of how he'll play football but if one actually cares about the players they're rooting for...not a good sign. On it's own, especially considering the circumstances maybe it should be ignored. If it's one more thing added to a list, though?

I value character so this doesn't endear me to KM as the #1 overall pick, leader and face of the franchise. It isn't character over all else but it matters.

Well said.
 

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
40,179
Reaction score
31,714
Location
Scottsdale, Az
Only 19 pages to discuss Kyler skipping the event? I don't think we're really giving this the attention it deserves. :)


Especially because...again...he doesn't personally schedule this sort of thing on draft day.

Whomever the agent hires to manage all his appearances on draft day is the one who does it. That is why the agent got defensive.
 

Brian in Mesa

Advocatus Diaboli
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
72,827
Reaction score
24,471
Location
Killjoy Central
I don't want to draft him at #1 overall, but this is a mountain out of a molehill.

Not really. He was the only no-show out of 22 prospects. Somehow all of the others managed to get there. It would be overblown if 5 or 6 didn't make it and he was just one of them, maybe. Speaks to his priorities...his character.
 

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
40,179
Reaction score
31,714
Location
Scottsdale, Az
Not really. He was the only no-show out of 22 prospects. Somehow all of the others managed to get there. It would be overblown if 5 or 6 didn't make it and he was just one of them, maybe. Speaks to his priorities...his character.

Or as already reported, it means that the agent has someone incompetent in charge of scheduling his appearances.
 

Solar7

Go Suns
Joined
May 18, 2002
Posts
11,172
Reaction score
12,108
Location
Las Vegas, NV
Not because of Kyler huh? Question...if they do choose him, do you think they think he is a non difference maker?
No, I don't think they think that, but it's what I think. I also think that not a single other team in this draft would take Kyler Murray #1 overall, and the only reason we're even considering it is because of our fired college head coach, and ownership's hope to get the Baker Mayfield effect.
 

dscher

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Posts
13,265
Reaction score
8,315
Location
Mesa, AZ
No, I don't think they think that, but it's what I think. I also think that not a single other team in this draft would take Kyler Murray #1 overall, and the only reason we're even considering it is because of our fired college head coach, and ownership's hope to get the Baker Mayfield effect.
Yes, keep going.. you're on the right track. :)
 

dscher

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Posts
13,265
Reaction score
8,315
Location
Mesa, AZ
On the right track toward thinking we're drafting him for all of the wrong reasons, and he won't be a difference maker?
No, I was pointing out that your last post was almost just an confirmation to why it should be the Cards pick. Imo. Failed coach in college(but offensive guru), baker Mayfield affect, etc. Those, imo, are reasons to get Kyler Murray. Not pass on him.

But, we'll just preemptively agree to disagree since you have some real major issues with this pick.. it's cool. :)
 

Solar7

Go Suns
Joined
May 18, 2002
Posts
11,172
Reaction score
12,108
Location
Las Vegas, NV
No, I was pointing out that your last post was almost just an confirmation to why it should be the Cards pick. Imo. Failed coach in college(but offensive guru), baker Mayfield affect, etc. Those, imo, are reasons to get Kyler Murray. Not pass on him.

But, we'll just preemptively agree to disagree since you have some real major issues with this pick.. it's cool. :)
I think the Cardinals are desperate to replicate the Baker Mayfield effect, and will fail greatly in doing so. This guy is not Baker Mayfield.
 

moklerman

Rise from the Ashes III
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Posts
5,318
Reaction score
810
Location
Bakersfield, CA
I think the Cardinals are desperate to replicate the Baker Mayfield effect, and will fail greatly in doing so. This guy is not Baker Mayfield.
Mayfield has skill but not skill alone. If that were all it takes then Manziel would have succeeded. Mayfield's greatest strengths are his intangibles, like leadership and passion. They are infectious and inspire his teammates(apparently). Hopefully for the Cardinals they don't look only as deep as skill set when making their choice.
 

BW52

Registered
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
5,043
Reaction score
1,904
Location
crestwood,Ky
Mayfield has skill but not skill alone. If that were all it takes then Manziel would have succeeded. Mayfield's greatest strengths are his intangibles, like leadership and passion. They are infectious and inspire his teammates(apparently). Hopefully for the Cardinals they don't look only as deep as skill set when making their choice.

Well said.it takes more than one day a week to be a good NFl QB.The Questions about Murrays getting by on Athletic ability and not wanting to take the time or effort for the learning part is a legitimate concern.
 

crisper57

Open the Roof!
Joined
Jan 23, 2007
Posts
14,950
Reaction score
1,019
Location
Phoenix, AZ
You must be registered for see images attach


Just look at all those poor amateur (for one more day at least) athletes being exploited by the NFL PR machine.
 
Top